thoughts on ereaders/kindles?
thoughts on ereaders/kindles?
im thinking of getting an ereader, but cant find many foss devices. i dont plan on connecting it to the internet, so i suppose it doesnt matter if its controlled by amazon right? love to hear your thoughts...
Kobo devices are the way to go. Easy sideloading, multiple FOSS operating system alternatives, and generally they've got some nice n' cheap options.
35What do you mean with OS alternatives?
9You can install PostmarketOS on several kobo devices, e.g.: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Kobo_Clara_HD_(kobo-clara)
PostmarketOS is a general linux distro based on alpine linux.
8The only one I know is Inkbox OS https://inkbox.ddns.net/
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Instructions for avoiding sign in, and side-loading etc
6I've had good luck with this. I buy books, and occasionally go to my library and download the books to my desktop for the day I change devices. Adept helps with the DRM stuff, and knock with the even worse ASCM DRM crap. Manage it all in Calibre.
Some books I move to a reMarkable and read them there; technical books, mainly, because they're easier to read in large format - code examples, formulas, etc., are better on a bigger screen.
3Can I transfer books though SFTP or something, or just USB?
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+1 for kobo. The physical device is a joy, too, and I like the screen a lot.
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It's not FOSS, but I have a Kobo Clara 2E, I like it a lot. There's a bit of a sqlite hack to activate it without an account, but it works great after that.
Don't bother with Overdrive on the Kobo, its a scummy company and it didn't even work without a Kobo account.
16Kobo has a good support for alternative OS software and they are good.
14At least in Germany "tolino" might be worth a look. I don't know how far they have expanded out of Germany, though.
11I am using my normal Android Phone with Librera Reader, it works great.
9Yep, it's probably easier to get an Android device and install readers on it than to try for a prepackaged FOSS reader.
I use several apps on my Android phone, but mostly Kindle (for Kindle, duh), PDF Reader (for PDFs, duh again), and Lithium (mostly for EPUB but pretty much everything else, too). I get most of my e-books as DRM-free EPUBs and PDFs.
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Hisense makes these e-ink phones that run Android. They're fiddly to get a working app store on, but once you do, you can pick your reading app. I run a Hisense A7CC with Kobo, Kindle, Aldiko, Perfect Viewer, and, well, this app! That is, if you want a very small screen. Boox makes a few 6-8" e-ink Android readers. I do like being able to sideload in whichever reading app I want. The colour ones are overpriced though.
7Didn't know nothing about that Hisense. Just wow, thanks for sharing.
1Those Hisense phones are cool! Seems really nice for reading news and such that you can't get on a traditonal ereader.
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I use Kobo Forma with a 8" screen. Has physical buttons. Perfect for books and manga. Never connected it to the internet.
7Kobo is definitely the best in terms of side loading, DRM etc. If you're the DIY type there's also an open source ereader project
https://github.com/joeycastillo/The-Open-Book?ref=itsfoss.com
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6Kindle devices are nice but not at all FOSS, and not very open either. Although you can sideload books, EPUB files are still not directly supported, you have to convert them. Converting is easy with Calibre but it's still a hassle that is not needed on any other ereader.
There's a vibrant jailbreak community on MobileRead, however Amazon keeps blocking jailbreaks.
After my Kindle died I got a Kobo instead. Costs about the same as Kindle (maybe slightly more?). Still not fully open, but supports EPUB and its MobileRead community is just as vibrant (and Kobo doesn't block you from doing this).
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Just go for whichever looks best for you, as long as it supports the EPUB file format, which is by far the most widespread ebook format nowadays. Be warned that the Kindle is particularly bad in this respect, because it only offers partial support for EPUB. You have to go through a whole spiel to get an epub file to your Kindle, whereas with most other e-readers, it's just a matter of copying a file over to your device.
Here's a comparison table for e-readers on Wikipedia. It may not be comprehensive, but it should give you an idea of what functions and/or features you're looking for:
6only offers partial support for EPUB. You have to go through a whole spiel to get an epub file to your Kindle, whereas with most other e-readers, it's just a matter of copying a file over to your device
Have you read the Amazon page you linked? Kindle supports epub now, nothing on that page indicates that it is limited in any way except file size. Also, getting an epub on your kindle is no different than any other supported file. They dropped support for mobi and azw, both Amazon specific formats.
4Yeah, I only glanced at wikipedia's e-reader comparison sheet and saw the word "Partial", so that's my bad. That said, transfering files to kindle still seems to be a pain. From Amazon's page:
Upload documents through the web, an authorized email address, the Kindle app for iOS and Android devices, or a Send to Kindle application if available.
So, if I'm understanding this correctly, you can transfer files to your Kindle through:
- a) Send to Kindle webpage
- b) Email
- c) An iOS or Android app
- d) Send to Kindle application
For a) and c) to work, you need an Amazon account. b) seems to be a bit unorthodox, but sure. And for d) needs an application to be installed on your computer. Contrast that to, say, PocketBook, which simply shows up as a USB device and you just drag and drop your e-books into their designated folders. No account, email or app required.
EDIT: formatting
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Always amuses me a bit when people say Kindles don't support EPUB, since I've been stripping DRM from my books and storing them in Calibre (enabling transparent conversion between EPUB and Amazon's formats) for thirteen years without a hitch. You should be doing this on any platform if you want to keep your books.
It's beyond me why anyone who so much as knows what FOSS stands for wouldn't do the same.
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E-book readers are great for reading. I have a kindle which isn't foss sadly but I can give my opinion on e-ink. It offers a much more comfortable way to read compared to reading on a tablet or phone. I can't read books on phones or tablets anymore now that I'm used to e-ink lol.
6It also doesn't strain the eyes.
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I have a Boox Nova Air that I use KOReader on. It was the best basic android option that offered an ~8in 300ppi model when I was looking to buy.
I'm not a particular fan of Boox and their disregard for the GPL but their hardware is nice and runs the apps I wanted to use. I think I paid ~$160 or so for the device used on fleaBay and I have no complaints. Most of the other models I've tried were so underpowered that they were annoying to use, this one has been just right.
6Yeah Booxs' are nice because they run Android. Gives a lot of freedom.
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I have a Kobo Clara HD. I've not put a new OS on it but I've added custom software and sideloaded books. Its been a wonderful experience. No matter what you pick I recommend it for the eink technology.
5I have a Boox Poke 3 that I like.
5Up vote for boox in general.
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Inkplate offers some esp32 powered eink solutions, and someone built an eReader software for it, should be this one
https://github.com/turgu1/EPub-InkPlate
But I have no idea how good it is. If you want to use it offline I suppose you could get any eReader that supports loading stuff via USB, You can manage a kindle library with calibre and turn off wifi after the first setup, for example.
4I've been using a Kindle with Libby for the last few years but I am curious to move to a FOSS device if anyone knows what integrates with overdrive/libby!
I want to make sure authors are compensated so I still love the library vs. sailing the seas but I'm not opposed to the latter.
3I'm eyeing the BOOX ultra for a while now.
3I have a Nova Air that I use with KOReader. It's a nice device for my purposes, I just wish they'd release their source so we could build custom images for the hardware. The new Tab hardware with a second GPU dedicated to fast screen refresh looks awesome but I don't have any reason to upgrade yet. I'll probably buy one used someday when they're cheap.
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You could try the pinenote
3NOTICE: The PineNote is an experimental device. PineNote software is still in it’s infancy and therefore it is ONLY suitable for experienced developers. At present time, there is no default OS for the PineNote.
Yeah that doesn't seem like a good option for most people, especially considering they're charging $400 for a product that can be considered a prototype at most.
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I love my kindles. I got the Kindle 3 Keyboard (dead battery and dead pixel), 1st gen Kindle Paperwhite (scratched screen, uneven lights), and Kindle Voyage (cracked screen, otherwise is perfect).
I don't really mind its a closed system, I transfer my books via calibre anyways.
3I have a pocketbook: https://pocketbookstore.com/
Works great, it's cheap and it's not from amazon.
2All in all I would recommend to stay away from devices made by ebook vendors (Kindle and Kobo most notably). They tend to force their shops and limit interoperability.
2Kobo has ways around it. Especially if you manage to get certain models. - certain variants have the entire Linux based OS installed on its SD card - you can remove it to edit the internal sqlite database with an SQL editor to bypass the login requirements. Other models are supposed to have methods to just not use a login. (Though I've never been successful at that)
Also, to save battery it usually doesn't connect to the internet unless you tell it too (sync update or whatever)
I have the Kobo Sage, while it doesn't have a removable SD card, and I did have to create an account initially. It doesn't require you to use it - you can plug it into a PC and just copy any ebooks, cbz comic files or PDFs you want to read. But I chose it for one reason: it's one of the most stable models for running KoReader, a custom interface that adds some interesting features. Including support for direct OTA syncing with the Calibre eBook management and editing software. All Kobo devices has a hidden folder that can be used with a koboroot archive file to flash stuff into the internal file system.
Running this software literally kills the original interface, (meaning it can't spy on you) and gives you full root access via an inbuilt terminal emulator. The fact it gives you access to full internal storage, means you can retroactively bypass the account requirement system, as their operating systems are almost completely identical across models.
Before that I used to own an old Clara HD (the screen broke, highly advise buying a cover for any e-reader) and did the SD card trick to bypass login.
There's a huge community for hacking most models of eReaders for better and more uniqur experiences. Theyre low security ARM devices, way easier to mess around with than an android phone these days. All Kobo devices have single account Linux distros - meaning everything is running as root.
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I use a PocketBook basic, i've never connected it to the internet and i manage my ebooks on calibre.
2I bought fbreader premium on android 10+ years ago and have never regretted it. There's also a PC port but last I checked it was a little out of date.
Edit: Misunderstood the question. I'm using an Alldocube iplay 50 pro as my reader. I've got my kids set up with old best buy branded 10" android tablets that were always turds but surprisingly good as just barebones ebook readers. I'm a US product reviewer for Umidigi and they're sending me a G1 tablet to review this week, for the price it definitely looks promising.
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