Russian infantry are eliminated by the "Rarog" UAV Battalion.
Russian infantry are eliminated by the "Rarog" UAV Battalion.
In the face of death, the occupiers show their true essence. They throw their helmets hysterically, fight back with automatic weapons, try to escape, but get what they deserve. A forest of EW antennas on the back of one of the occupiers did not help to escape from the "penal sanctions" of the soldiers of the "Rarog" Battalion of the 24th OMBr.
What awful waste of human lives. And I guess there is no good way to die in war, but this just seems so atrocious for everyone involved
51Serious question: would carrying a shotgun in the field be worth the additional weight? Would it be feasible to switch to the shotgun and kill it before it got into lethal range?
17I think a semi-auto shotgun would definitely be worth it. I think armies should also add skeet shooting to boot camp and have skeet shooting specialized troops in every squad going forward.
16The resurrection of the AA-12
9Would Skeet shooting be applicable here? I thought a good part of the skill with Skeet was seeing the flight path of the target and anticipating where its going to be then shooting, but all of that in skeet is dependent on linear paths and no other change in velocity from the clay pigeon. Drones don't behave that way. They speed up, they slow down, they hover, they go left, right, up, down, backwards, forwards and seemingly random intervals.
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Totally a keyboard warrior reply, but I suspect that since most of those videos show individual or pair of soldiers, its after their squad was destroyed and these guys are remainder. They probably also hear a lot of drones flying around during the day, so even if they are loud as hell, maybe you "get used" to it and don't react as quick.
Probably don't expect every soldier to carry shotguns so depending who survives the first contact, might not have a right weapon. Also I don't actually know what is Russian squads go to load-outs are. It would be interesting to know if Ukrainian squads who have western training keep up with similar load outs as touted by western armies (where people have roles and equipment to suit). But as we rarely see videos of successful interceptions, its probably not something Ukraine would be quick to share.
Take all this with a ton of salt though, I have no sources, just assumptions. Would be great to hear from professional soldiers with actual combat experience though.
9Shotgun has a short effective range, about 70-100m depending of ammunition and gauge. If the drone explodes it still can hurt the shooter and people around. But, I guess it is a better option than just to wait for death.
7The US Infantry already carries shotguns for breaching. So yes. Very feasible.
4I wonder what fraction of a Ukrainian soldier's time is spent with occupied hands where they can't ready weapon and acquire target within a few seconds. Probably not too common in open battlefield, and you could have a designated drone spotter for those periods if that's not already a thing.
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I've seen a video about an ammunition being developed to be adapted to the underbarrel grenade launcher. Problem is that it needs to be ready if you any chance at it, and you only have one chance.
Second problem is that most Russian soldiers are barely trained and equipped anyway, they're just litteral canon fodder. Elite troops certainly have something to fight drones, but I suspect jamming would be the first layer. The video we see are most probably against the canon fodder.
3I made a relevant comment to someone else above, so I'll link that here. https://lemmy.zip/comment/14157725
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17In the face of death, the occupiers show their true essence. They throw their helmets hysterically, fight back with automatic weapons, try to escape, but get what they deserve.
The true essence being... afraid of dying? I'd probably react the same.
Whether each individual deserves this is questionable. Though this doesn't mean I don't approve of the Ukrainian measures, in fact I support these fully,
However, as I'm not Ukrainian, my view on the matter is naturally different from someone's who is currently being invaded. So I do get the sentiment. Just that I don't want to celebrate it
11I'm surprised only one guy tried to shoot it. Are they that low on ammo?
8I mean honestly, I would not consider it because drones are tiny and quick. I don't think I'd be able to shoot one.
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To everyone thinking this is cool because it's about enemy soldiers:
I get it, they're the enemy and we HAVE to kill them. It is NOT cool, though.
It's a guarantee that next up this will be innocent civilians. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if Israel isn't already using these on Palestinian men, women and children. These videos are a horror show.
A few years back I saw this video made by some AI experts about how AI would be abused and it was basically these drones but with AI and facial recognition taking out students in a swarm because they were political opponents. It was a nightmarish scenario
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1:1 is unheard of in urban warfare. It would have been even less if Hamas didn't hide behind children and women while launching attacks from schools and hospitals. All you terrorist apologists though just spout hamas propaganda (lies) without even checking the facts. Shame on you.0My god you sound indoctrinated badly.
I don't apologize for terrorists, fuck Hamas.
I'm also not blind to the terror the Israel government has been unleashing onto the Palestinians for over 50 years now.
I'm also not blind to the fact that Netanyahu has been actively supporting Hamas just so he could have more excuses to kill more innocent Palestinians, so fuck Netanyahu and fuck the Israeli government
1The fuck are you on about? Did you forget your medication?
Where did I even mention Hamas, let alone that I apologize for terrorists?
Hamas should die, all of them
The Israeli government, you know, that government that actively sabotaged.peace for decades, and supported settlements and policies that makes Hamas possible to begin with, should die too. In fire, preferably. They are a bunch of evil motherfucking child mass murderers.
Take those two away, and peace in the middle eat may actually be possible.
Take people like you away, and we might actually have normal conversations on the internet
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Smh they didn't even dodge roll
5Didn't practice iframes enough.
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Naming your suicide drone “Shrike” is metal af
4The PTSD soldiers will have for the rest of their lives about a whirring motor…
3I've been wondering, do the Russians also have these types of suicide drones, and if so, do they also use them this way on individual/pairs of soldiers? I know this sub mostly shows Ukrainian videos. Or do they not engage in drone warfare as much with these small quadcopters? Most videos show Russian footsoldiers, vehicles and bigger fixed wing drones.
Also, for the armchair experts here, what are the chances of surviving something like this? Sounds like a dumb question, but is it possible some percent of them are duds/don't detonate after impact? I'm not sure if the static at the end of the clips is added later, but can we assume if the feed cuts out, it has exploded?
I know nothing about the technology involved, but it seems like a fairly low barrier to entry to me. It makes me wonder if this kind of attack will be used in terrorist attacks in the next years/decades. Doesn't seem like there's much one could do against it in civilian areas.
2Yes, they produce them about equally, but issues with corruption and bureaucracy in Russia hamper their use.
Russia's offensive strategy is to use constant "meat assaults" to gain ground via attrition. The most efficient way to defend against that is with cheap FPV drones. The net effect is drone videos of hundreds of Russian troops dying per day.
Anything under 5kg that goes burns or goes boom has been attached to an FPV drone at this point. The most effective against infantry are the 3D printed ones that use ball bearings.
They do sometimes get caught on a net, but some brands have remote triggers. Magyar uses them a lot in his videos.
These have been used in terror attacks for some time, but it's becoming far easier and cheaper. They even sell the grenade dropping mechanism on Amazon.
1Huh, interesting. The disadvantages of the centralised vs distributed approach really makes sense here.
The Russian tactics seem like total madness. Might have worked in WWII still but looking at the videos in this community, surely they will eventually have to run out of vehicles and willing men (if they haven't run out of the latter already).
Ball bearings, Jesus.
I wasn't aware they had been used in terror attacks, but I saw an article about an attempted assassination of Maduro on the site you linked.
I'll take your word on that Amazon link, disturbing shit.
Are these attacks on single soldiers tactically relevant too, or is it mainly intended as a psychological weapon, knowing that these things could hunt you down and you basically can't do anything against it? I'm not Russian, or a soldier, or in Ukraine but I'm scared of these things.
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