These Prisoners Are Training AI : In high-wage Finland, where clickworkers are rare, one company has discovered a novel labor force—prisoners.
These Prisoners Are Training AI : In high-wage Finland, where clickworkers are rare, one company has discovered a novel labor force—prisoners.
In high-wage Finland, where clickworkers are rare, one company has discovered a novel labor force—prisoners.
This is neither novel, nor morally acceptable. People that do this work usually end up traumatized for life, because of the fucked up shit they often have to look at. Prisoners are not really in a position to negotiate, meaning you can push this work on them in a sort of non consentual way that is below what modern society should strive for.
101If you actually really the article, she's parsing real estate news articles.
Most AI jobs do not involve CP.
33Rule number 1 on Reddit is: “never read the article “
I guess that still applies here.
Rule 2: “disagree with everyone”
Rule 3: “You’re always right”
Rule 4: “everyone else is always wrong“
I’m sure there are lots of other rules, but that should get anyone started in the modern social media.
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Training an AI is not traumatizing - what you think it is moderating public networks
31Unfortunately one major sector of image machine learning is CSAM scanning, which was also recently revealed as one of the major funding parties for the planned legislation intended to allow scanning all private communication in the EU. But generally i agree most of the things they will see might not be too bad by themselves but its still a job no human really wants to do of their own free will. If they do decide to do it, it is either out of a lack of choice or because they dont know what they are getting themselves into.
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Prisoners are not really in a position to negotiate, meaning you can push this work on them in a sort of non consentual way that is below what modern society should strive for
Well the article does mention that the prisoner "Marmalade" was not forced to do any of this.
In fact the article mentions that she could have spend her time in her cell, doing online courses or doing chores for the prison for little cash. The fact that wired managed to just book an interview with the prisoner also makes it quite risky for the company to subject the prisoners to any traumatizing material.The only problem I really see with this is the fact that this doesn't really prepare the prisoners for live outside the prison in any way.
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Damn, Finland about to find out how to create a powerful prison system for cheap labor!
Took a page right out of America.
51We don't allow privatizing prisons, but let's not give the current cabinet any ideas
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Slavery out of prisoners isn’t novel.
51It's volunteer work that they get paid for.
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The article gives a really nice perspective on how morally questionable this is.
The company gets cheap, Finnish-speaking workers, while the prison system can offer inmates employment that, [the company] says, prepares them for the digital world of work after their release.
Yeah sure, doing more data labelling? I highly doubt data labelling gives anyone any skill besides date labelling. Luckily this article doesn't just accept the statement of the company, but questions it very critically.
36Hey, that's not fair. What if there's a boom in companies that need to know if it's a hot dog or not in the next 10 years?
-1It's a bullshit sales speech but it doesn't sound morally questionable to me. It's little pay and mindnumbing work for sure, but also you volunteer for it so, eh, seems fine
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This dystopia is really boring.
27Idk man if you read the article, it's a pretty good system.
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Novel for clickwork is what the title means
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Prison labor to the tune of 6.50 per day.
15making prisoners do office jobs feels somehow fitting.
14Novel?
12Outside of the US kind of?
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When they told me AI technologies were inherently carceral I did not believe them
4Letting criminals train your AI is a terrible idea. I'll be avoiding AIs from Finland now.
-4"Fun" fact. One finnish content moderation AI service was founded by a far-right party member (and an ex-cop to boot). Not surprisingly, the forums and yellow press comment fields the system "moderates" are known to be filled with racism and other hate speech.
(Utopia Analytics and Tom Packalén if someone wants to search for more)
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