Asklemmy @lemmy.ml

2y ago

What's an industry that would cause riots if it disappeared overnight?

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The Internet.
That'd remove the circuses from our bread and circuses... and some of us are out of bread
- Just wait until Google implements Web Environment Integrity.
  We should already be in the streets and we're not.
  
  While I can see the plus side of being able to identify bots, I don't think the WEI is the right way to do it, and Google definitely isn't the right company to be handling it
  
  I just wish everyone would switch to Firefox.
  It is because Chrome has a monopoly, is close enough to monopoly.
- the internet is the first thing they shut down to control riots in authoritatian countries
- but how are we supposed to organize gathering times and places to start rioting? on the paper?
  
  Carrier pigeon.
  
  Bridgefy
  https://bridgefy.me/
  From their site:
  'Bridgefy is a free messaging app that works without the Internet. Perfect for natural disasters, large events, and at school!'
  It works over Bluetooth, and lets you send messages to other users without needing an internet connection. I haven't used it yet, but the app looks straightforward enough :)

That's a very complex question that depends on many socioeconomic factors. But the answer is probably porn.
- I'm gonna be honest. This is what I was looking for when I asked the question 😂
- From my cold, dead, well-lubricated Hands!
- This is the first thing that occurred to me.
- Then we can just get rid of the rioters and solve several problems at the same time.
- lol, first of all, gross.
  second of all, there is enough porn to last any average coomer a lifetime.

water/wastewater. something people dont think about, just turn on the tap/flush the terlet.
peoples places of living would back up and they wouldnt have safe water to drink
- Highly recommend getting a filter jug, even if you have good water. Makes you think every time you fill it just how much water we use daily
- I think any utility going down would cause that, and probably within a day or two.

I mean, agriculture seems like an obvious answer

Probably a lot of them. Definitely food distribution though.
- The revolution is 3 meals away.
- Yeah, exactly. Anything people can't find an alternative for is bound to cause "creativity" when it disappears.

Waste Management
- When France extended retirement age, waste management stopped cold in solidarity with the protests and its overnight disappearance was supported by most of the population, so I don't think that's it.
  
  Yes, but that's because it motivated them to strike. That's basically the less violent version of a riot.

Railroading. Not the next day, but probs pretty quick. There's a reason Biden nipped the railroad strike in the bud, and my theory as to why he's trying to build up the "pro-union" image again before the election - he really screwed labor in that move.
- Maybe you missed the part where he went back and fulfilled that promise to get the railroad workers sick days.
  https://crooksandliars.com/2023/06/sick-days-biden-administration-gets-it
  
  I actually did miss that, thank you for replying. I had been working for a passenger rail company at the time, but ended up leaving my job a little after the big event and didn't keep up on the news.
  That being said, I still think the union could have gotten a much better deal had they been permitted to strike. They were originally asking for 15 paid days (note: I think they would've settled lower, but higher than 4). While the deal that was negotiated does help people, it is a far cry from what's needed. I worked at the best of the railroads (in terms of contract), and that was too much for me. I was on call 6 days a week and worked all 6 of those days for several months straight. I got sick a lot more often in my year on that job than ever before and it's becuse I didn't have rest. But again, that was the best contract in the RR, freight workers (at the time at least) were on call for up to 2 weeks at a time, sometimes being called in more than once a day.
  I haven't looked at the new contracts that freight workers are getting now, but I know that 4 days sick leave (7 if you convert your personal days), is not enough, even if they got contracts as good as we had at my company. The railroads use and abuse their employees, and employees should've gotten a lot more than they did. A strike would have ground things to a halt, but that's literally the point. That's the only card we have as workers and Biden took that away at a pivotal moment.
  So I personally still think it was a shit deal, and it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm glad that workers are getting more now than they were, but they could have gotten more had they not been kneecapped.
  
  He got them a few and far far less than they asked for.
- But is a strike enough to make the industry disappear ? Several European countries (especially France) regularly get large strikes in the rail (and indeed these workers are essential thus striking works). For a few days/week people find alternative way to commute, employer close their eye on people coming late/leaving early but a week of strike (even a hard one) isn't enough to collapse the economy
  
  This strike was regarding freight rail and would definitely not cause the industry to disappear since rail is the most cost effective way to transport certain goods, and we do not have enough infrustructure for trucks to be a reasonable alternative (and we have a hell of a lot of roadways). Here's a basic list of common things freight trains carry.
  Many people would feel the hit from things like lumber and car shortages, but I think hazmat materials would be the biggest stopper of the economy. According to this page rail transports 99.9% of hazmat materials in the US, including 11% of the US's crude oil at it's peak oil shipments in 2014, though idk how pipelines factor in/how companies distibute gasoline, so not sure if that would affect gas prices in some areas more than others or if it would affect the nation as a whole. What I do know is that many industries rely on our freight system, and it can't all be converted to trucking. Many workers wouldn't have raw materials to work with and it would touch everyone in some way.

Shipping.

Food

Alcohol. First the casual drunks get pissy, then the serious drunks get sick.

Information Technology.
Not immediately. But imagine what would happen if the engineers of Google and the other data centers like AWS went down for more than 24h.
- Forget 666. The world will end overnight if 8.8.8.8 stops responding to pings.
  
  Depends if there is still 4.4.2.1
  
  I don't think it would be that big of a deal. In comparison to the root DNS servers going down.

Grocery stores, logistics (trucking/railway), electricity, petroleum, cocaine
- Huh, cocaine? I think would be more chill without it wouldn't they? And more aggressive etc without their heroin
  
  Yeah, you're right. Cocaine users would be crashing hard and not feel like rioting. I had been thinking of changing it to opiates.

Tobacco, that shit is addictive, and looking at gow often the bad suburbs were drug traffic occurs end up rioting...

Healthcare
- Then why isn't America rioting?
  
  Because it didn’t disappear overnight
  
  Can't riot against something being taken away if you never had it in the first place and have convinced yourself that you don't need it 🫠
  
  They should be. Really.
  
  Militarization of the police, and a extremely unfair, draconian, for profit prison system.
  
  Maybe in a couple of days when Kaiser staff go on strike.
  
  Because the healthcare industry is anything but gone
  
  Non-US people have such an hilariously skewed view of the US healthcare system

Not an industry, but if EBT/food stamps payments stopped there would definitely be riots. Not that aren't already.

Toilet paper

Soccer
- Ironically I don't think soccer would cause riots in the place that it is called soccer. But in places it isn't called Soccer most definitely would cause riots.
  
  It causes riots by existing so it disappearing would probably make it even worse.

Trash collection

Big tiddie goth girls

Food

Gaming (specifically Steam)
- laughs in GOG

Gun's. In USA 😏
- Bring it!

Mail-in election ballots

Police
- Most of the "riots" people have complained about in the past 5 years have been directly caused by police existing in the way that it does. I can't deny that police serve as a deterrent for some people regarding some things, but I don't think I'd live much differently. I'd probably shoplift from big box stores occasionally, but not out of greed. It's about taking money, not making money. If everybody stole a can of food from Walmart every day to give to the hungry, there would be no more hungry and Walmart would still make billions.
  
  That’s absurd. 250 million weekly visitors stealing a $1 item per visit would amount to $13B per year in losses, approximately equal to Walmart’s annual net income. They would love to raise prices to compensate (2% should do it) but then they would lose the equivalent in sales to competitors like Amazon that don’t face as much risk from theft losses.
  
  the rioters wanted free jordans and TVs.
  they had nothing to do with police brutality.
- It is funny that you get down voted as this is likely one of the only posts here that is accurate.

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