Apparently, the mods at Linuxsucks are really sensitive?
Apparently, the mods at Linuxsucks are really sensitive?
Saw a post without noticing the community and commented a genuine comment with good intentions.
Apparently it was against the rules of that community and I was banned.
Original post:
My (removed) comment:
And yeah, the last comment was sarcasm.
I just don't really understand why is there a community for shitting on Linux? Like I can get not liking it, and hating the Linux die hard fans, but it really is an amazing thing that is integral to almost all modern computing... Kind of like hating social media by having a facebook page for it.
It's not a "community", it's one person making all the posts because I guess they wanted to make hating Linux their entire personality. 🤷
84I mean, you do see the irony of saying that on a website filled with Linux-crazed people, right..?
0I'd argue dedicating your personality to hating something is much weirder than being a fanboy of it, especially when that thing is a piece of technology nobody is forcing you to use.
9I don't see irony there. I think calling this FOSS community 'filled with Linux-crazed people' is a stretch, but even then, it's very different to:
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or even just hating a niche product whatsoever. It's not like Linux is EEE'ing or being invasive, so it's hard to equivocate being a passionate fan to being a passionate hater.
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There was a time when there was an annual "Linux Sucks" presentation that I liked because it was a roundup of candid, yet constructive criticism of Linux (and then at some point the person running that went off the deep end and started yelling about woke agendas).
I wouldn't mind there being a whole community devoted to pointing out shit that is poorly designed or just broken when running linux, and we as a community then try to fix them or find workarounds.
But as others have pointed out, that community isn't a community, it's literally just one account hanging out by themselves.
47I wouldn’t mind there being a whole community devoted to pointing out shit that is poorly designed or just broken
But isn't that every linux forum?
13Yeah, but I think it can feel too much like a circle jerk around here sometimes. I get that people want to win over new users, but some of it goes too far I think. The fact is Linux isn't perfect, and while no OS is, there are some critical things you can do on Windows that are still a pain in the ass on Linux. Some of that is a vendor/proprietary software problem, but a good chunk of it is just people being willing to overlook a thin layer of jank in their normal workflows.
I think we'd all be better off to all acknowledge and clean up the jank rather than try to pretend it's fine as is.
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There is a guy that is a Linux dev, that maintains* a list of what sucks about linux, its very comprehensive--but a bit dated. He alao has same for Windows. I will have to look for the link
2" that community isn't a community, it's literally just one account hanging out by themselves."
Is it though? Here's a screenshot from comfy@lemmy.ml showing 2 other contributors (and this isn't chat; I'm not here to 'hang out').
It's also new and trending. Even on Reddit's r/linuxsucks, I was a prolific poster, and continue as such on r/desktoplinuxsucks.
Maybe just admit being butt-hurt or mute, because you aren't the intended audience and it brings you discomfort. -Thanks
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Apparently it was against the rules of that community and I was banned.
Sounds like they've done you a favour. Now you don't have to see their random hater circlejerk community again.
46don't you have to block it back to not see it?
13Oh, maybe. Is that how it works?
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I wish I could just mute it for them. -Apparently not an option.
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41Not content with unasked for evangelizing in Windows communities and posts, this Stallman's Witness tries their hand in an even less welcome locale.
Injured by the failure of their attempt, they seek sympathy back in friendlier climes.
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That is indeed Don Quixote and I believe you'll find that he is tilting at that windmill
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I don't understand why so many people take the existence of linuxsucks communities so personally, the reddit version has more linux users defending it than actual hate, but that one was more meant as a "legitimate grievances against linux" community as opposed to what the lemmy version seems to be.
Just block and ignore like anything else. Its okay if there are people that don't like the thing you like.
32Hummm... Guess you're to sensible? I mean I'm die hard linux lover for 3 years now and will never switch back to Windows... EVER!
However, I found some of those posts quite funny !
30Some of them are funny indeed
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My guess: the mod is sittin there posting memes on his gentoo-machine and laughing his ass of, because someone's taking his community serious.
18Pretty accurate meme though.
17Yeah.. I am in my Arch comfort zone, till I was forced to move on as the newest kernels of Arch triggered kernel Panics at my Starlite V device. Even the LTS version (and for some weird reason the rt kernel was the only one working without panics).
So someone said "Use NixOS, its great"... it felt cool at beginning, but sucked very soon as everything should be written into stone if you want changes on your system, and then reboot, because the switch command didn't really trigger enough changes. Netbeans was without Maven till I rebooted. I thought I sucked at adding it properly. Frustrating it was.
Then I tried MX Linux, just to realize that Debian has Ancient packages with many many bugs, like Okular having a broken Pinch-Zoom which is fixed after 23.31 or smth. Debian had version 22 of Okular. And I disliked that MX Linux used Plasma 5...
Another one recommends Void Linux, Gentoo, KDE Neon, OpenSuse Tumbleweed. Holy fuck pls filter it by Systemd only Operating Systems. (But still cool having lots od Linux users in my university group)
I finally decided to Install Kubuntu and actually... it feels like it will last forever (till a new Ubuntu Update comes in and destroys itself by its own Updating system. It never worked for me)
3Gentoo has systemd instructions right alongside openrc through the whole installation handbook. Pretty sure opensuse is systemd also.
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Yup XD
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Unrelated but I got banned from the atheist memes community for calling one of the mods memes a boomer Facebook meme.
17As an atheist, I cringe at nearly every post I see from that community. Makes me want to punch teenage neckbeard me in the face
9Same. I imagine it's how most Christians feel about their loudest supporters as well
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It turns out, mods are gods.
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Wow 😲
4Yeah. I found that post after I, too, was banned.
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It's like going to a vegan community saying "meat isn't so bad". You're obviously not going to get good responses.
15We all thought the community was satire or at least self deprecative humor.
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For this exact reason i feel the fediverse should operate on #hashtags and the user should subscribe to their mods who will mark content for exclusion and filtration.
Meaning that instead of a ultimatum users can participate regardless of if bad mods ruin a community as per reddit /r/linux being ruined by loco mods.
This fiefdom format where topics are arbitrated and drum headded by fief lords is archaic and antiquated.
When the wrong man uses the right means, then the right means work in the wrong way.
Its our job to create systems that prevent this as much as possible through good design.
14That's how aether works kind of.
It's P2P/decentralised rather than federated.
Anyone can make a community. With enough participation in a community one can become a mod. Mods can be impeached by vote of active participants.
Anyone can see nod actions and anyone can decide to disable the actions of any mod.
I love the system, I was active there before moving to Lemmy. I wish it had taken off/absorbed some of the Reddit fallout rather than Lemmy.
AFAIK it is not maintained or at least updated much less frequently than Lemmy/ActivityPub.
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Yeah, that guy's not joking.
It's not some kayfabe act. He is sincere in all of that posturing assholery.
Block and move on.
12Seems like a year ago he was actually using Linux himself. Wondering what happened that made him feel so butthurt.
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It's the same argument I've heard about the "complexity" of Mastodon: too many choices, which is I guess why people largely stopped going to websites outside the major social networks. Monopoly over competition, it's like everyone is pining for a monarchy.
12Users say they want options until they receive way too many options
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Linuxsocks
11I acquired the yarn, but i can't figure out how to compile it.
6- Find a pattern (preferably with the trans flag)
- Manually compile
- Post on unixsocks
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So: you posted a serious contribution in an unserious community, and got treated unseriously. It's not very newsworthy.
As for that community's existence, why is that even up for discussion? As a Linux user I'm happy for people to say what they like about Linux. If the jokes are funny, all the better.
I use Ubuntu btw and it doesn't suck. Well, not that much.
10I don't think it's a joke community, it seems to just be about hating Linux and not allowing any Linux positivity or praise
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I'm not sure if it's related but there was an annual symposium called "Linux Sucks". It was a gathering of mostly Linux developers. The idea was to find the ways Linux sucks and develop ideas to fix the suck.
10Nah, this seems like a community to dunk on Linux
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Deciding Linux isn't for you is one thing. Even deciding that you hate Linux is... Digestible. But what kind of internal self esteem and validation issues do you need to unironically participate in a community called "Linux sucks"?
Hating Linux is one thing. Putting in extra effort to justify to everyone that Linux is hate-able is a different kind of crazy.
8When I was on reddit the ones spouting the most linux hate seemed to fall into two main categories.
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those that tried it like 15 years ago and still hold a grudge.
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dudes who heard people rave about linux but they themselves struggled with certain concepts when trying it out. And rather than realize they need to read instructions and learn new things, instead would rather blame linux for not working as expected.
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Whether it's a rage-click community, a community made for an agenda, or both, I don't know, but in either cases, I wouldn't see as surprising for the mods in such a community to be very trigger-happy. Best you can do, I think, is to block communities and individuals with such a profile, and to recommend others to not engaging (remember to explain why if you do it, btw).
6Tech people are always sensitive and unfair. You should get used to it or start seriosly fighting them if you're not afraid of getting in a legal trouble. As someone already said, it's probably good that you got banned because the community could hurt you more. Trust me, you don't want to get banned on a community you've spent years and made friends on.
5Nope, I just checked. Apparently, you can't say anything good about Linux. Seems like a useless waste of time but, whatever. If I got banned from that site I would consider it a blessing.
5As light rises, so does darkness to meet it
5people who are new should be using immutable distros exclusively unless they're looking at this as a major project where they learn everything about it, IMHO
i've been helping people switch for a long time, all the dumbest things that have happened to people have been stopped by immutability.
3I just switched from Windows to Linux recently. Have gone from Zorin to Linux Mint and my friend likes Ubuntu. I would like to think that I watched a lot of videos and read a lot of articles before switching, but I've never heard of immutable distros. Could you please explain that term?
Edit: Grammar.
2Yes, the short version is that immutability means that the filesystem (except for your home folder) is read-only and updated all at once.
This makes it so that updates never break the machine, and you can roll back to previous versions of the machine all at once, seamlessly.
For new people I always recommend fedora kinoite, but if you're highly experienced, immutability provides little value as you can always just chroot and unbreak the system yourself.
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Linux is pretty advanced today. It's not a baby anymore.
2You should also take into account the animosity against lemmy.ml in general from some instances and communities. Something to do with the moderation here or something else.
1The Linux world have bad things, especially in userland and libc
1I read it as a jokey community and maybe you took it too seriously. Regardless that's a kinda silly comment to leave. That's a community for, ironically or seriously, hating Linux, so obviously it's not in the spirit of the community to leave a serious comment defending Linux.
I see a lot of Windows hate on Lemmy. If someone made a post here complaining about how much they hate Windows, and a Windows fan replied explaining why Windows is so great, I would say it's kinda heavy-handed but not totally ridiculous for a mod to ban them, since a Linux community is probably not for this person.
-2The guy made 3+ pages of posts shitting on linux, all while nobody else posted and 95% of the posts were downvoted to shit. Nobody was laughing, the guy made real arguments, and genuinely seemed to have an issue with linux. I never detected any satire presonally.
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