1 yr. ago • 94%

Still can't decide

73 comments

Install VSCode

Install all extensions

Copy extensions folder

Install Codium

Move extensions to Codium extensions folder

Remove VSCode
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- Does codium handle updates for the extensions?
  
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  As long as the same extensions exist in its repositories, yes. VSCodium has its own extension marketplace though, many of the most used can be easily found there.
  
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  Nope
  
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- This works until you have debug .NET.
  
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- You can also download the *.vsix file of the desired extension from either Github or Microsoft's extension marketplace and install it manually by clicking on "Install from VSIX" in the Extensions menu.
  
  This obviously doesn't solve the update problem and it is also questionable if this is in terms with the "Microsoft Terms of Use" of the extension.
  
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- or just use the vscode marketplace in codium....
  
  you can also just use openvsix, which actually contains everything you'll ever need
  
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Come to neovim and spend countless hours tweaking your configs when you should be working 🙃

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- That was exactly my experience with it.
  
  I was using VIM in the old days, so I already had some memories on now to do basic editing.
  
  And then I've spent a week trying to make NeoVIM a well adjusted IDE for C, Java, JavaScript and go. I've quit after a week, as the results were not satisfactory.
  
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  I just installed CoC with a language server, and it works like a charm.
  
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- Crazy that people seem to think you're serious and that Neovim needs constant tweaking. I built my config nearly 6 months ago and have only edited it to add new keybinds when I think of how something could be faster or easier. Everything else has been pretty stable.
  
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vim users: you guys got buttons?

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- Hey you get to decide between neovim and vim
  
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  I don’t think that’s much of a choice.
  
  #neovim4life
  
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  neovim is not much different really, except you can do configs in lua (much better).
  
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- Those guys aint human, we don't talk about them.
  
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Any Jetbrains users here?

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- Can’t imagine working with java without it
  
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- Have a work and personal license. Pretty doable after a few years the full package is only like 170 euros a year.
  
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- Yes, it seems to have everything I need for Go and Python
  
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- Love WebStorm.
  
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- RubyMine, vscode is lacking for Ruby development unfortunately.
  
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- Sometimes. Depends on how lazy I am
  
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- ✋ Using Goland daily. Haven't try out their Fleet much though.
  
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No telemetry but also restricted extension stores

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- Permanently Deleted
  
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  I use VSCode with config options to disable telemetry. Probably not perfect but good enough for me, I'm very happy using VSCode
  
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I miss when this was vim vs Emacs

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- Whish side were you on then? The correct side (emacs) or the wrong side (vim)?
  
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  Why not both? I've used Emacs with evil-mode for several years. I did use Vim before that for longer though.
  
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Still waiting for VSCopium

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- I thought you had a typo.. But then I look it up...
  
  https://github.com/TheHolyTachanka/VsCopium
  
  It's real.. But I think it's abandoned..
  
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- i always mistype codium as copium...
  so
  
  alias --save copium codium
  
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in linux I use codium and add a symlink from code to codium, that way software that only recognizes code will work with codium (don't know why godot does it) and it works great, on windows I just couldn't make it work so I use code because unity only works with code and I have to use Unity for work also, I enabled the vscode store in codium because there are some extensions I need that aren't on the codium store

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- You can symlink in Windows as well. It's called a "junction"
  
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Obvious choice, nano

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- Obvious choice, NeoVim.
  
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- Boo this man!!
  
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- Boooo
  
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- When I go to save files in nano I'm always afraid I'm gonna break something more, if I'm not using vim its probably not an everyday sort of broken Linux situation :P
  
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You can install most of the extension that aren't included straight up in the Extensions tab, it's just a little inconvenient. And yes I'm using Codium.

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Is there even a difference, asside from the telemetry?

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- VSCodium has limited plugins, but most known ones were available.. Weird logo, some kind of a seaplant?? But I soon dig it..
  
  VSCode has all the plugins, but with Microsoft's Telemetry as expected.. Cool logo..
  
  Truth: I'm using VSCodium, the absence of Telemetry tends to improve it's overall performance.. I'm beginning to like the logo.. Plugins support has improved, all the plugins I used in VSCode, are now available.. All of it..
  
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  It's basically the same difference between Chrome and Chromium.
  
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  You can add the official microsoft marketplace in a json file and get all the addons :)
  
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  I bet their telemetry package being so ancient and having ancient parts to it is the reason it brings performance down for the whole application. It's just too old.
  
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- The plugins. Aside from that, it's the same source code
  
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Well, choose neovim and customize it the way you want.

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- I managed to code 100% in nvim after I realized vscode taking almost 5gb storage for caches and the extensions
  
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This is what I get for daily driving win11 and thinking “wow wsl2 is pretty cool”

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NeoVim, VSCodium and Kate are my picks.

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I just stick with Geany.

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emacs vs vim

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I use vscodium for most day to day stuff and vscode for trying out/"sandboxing" specific extensions like github copilot.

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Try out helix. It has a lot of sane defaults baked into it, treesitter, LSP support, etc.

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Vim, nano, micro, emacs... ffs. Your text editor should not be a shell, a file manager, a compiler, a build system or a dependency manager. Do one thing and do it well, a editor that tries to be everything ultimately becomes an inflexible mess. An integrated system often becomes an interdependent system, where you are stuck with a single build system, version control, compiler, or file manager. When these are separate tools, they are interchangeable, one person can use vim, the other nano, a third gedit. One project can use make, a second ninja or meson.

If a project uses VScode, it basically forces everyone else to use it or forces you to maintain two separate build systems. Another option is to only use external tools, but then VScode just becomes an extremely bloated text editor. On my computer, both vim and emacs, start before I can lift my finger from the enter key. The same can't be said about VScode.

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- Emacs
  
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- I'm all for using vim or Emacs or whatever, and I agree that not having a dependency on a specific editing software is a great thing.
  
  But since when did using VSCode enforce the decision on other members of the team? VSC is just going to integrate it's features with whatever build system you are using. It doesn't enforce any particular build tool in any project. You can use NPM, yarn. PNPM, whatever the fuck else lol... Nobody needs to maintain multiple build systems to support VSC because it is also just a text editor, albeit a bloated one. Yes, if you install all the fancy extensions to integrate VSCode with your project, it will be a heavy app, and that's a problem. But if you want your barebones editor, just don't install any extensions? I've been in projects where I'll be using VSC while someone else will be using Vim and that one dude will be using webstorm or something. It works. There is no Microsoft^TM build tool lockdown going on.
  
  I know vim is still far less resource intensive than code but outside of very specific use cases, I've never seen any modern computer struggle with running code, especially without the extensions... It's equivalent to opening an extra chrome window, I'm sure most computers can handle that lol.
  
  End of the day the best tool is whatever lets you personally write code faster, and for some of us that happens to be VS Code
  
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- (Neo)vim
  
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- Emacs
  
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