Support for Third U.S. Political Party Up to 63%

RANKED CHOICE VOTING

make parties irrelevant

I want third parties, but before that happens we need Ranked Choice Voting or Approval Voting. Otherwise, voting third party is essentially just taking votes from the major party most closely aligned with that third party.

Now ask those people what the third party's platform should be.

If only the politicians in the dominant parties had any incentive to make elections fair for all parties. As it stands, the dominant parties have too many systems in place to give themselves advantages.

Rank choice voting seems like an obvious upgrade to our current voting system but is nowhere to be found other than a couple states.

Why stop at three parties. We need like seven.

I'm not from America so I have no idea how this party system works, but the point here is I love parties 🎊

Does the GOP still count as a political party? What is their platform, anyways? I don't think "install a dictator and oppress minorities" counts as a platform. Point is, maybe we should look at getting a second political party first. One that can actually represent conservatives.

Would love a third and a fourth and a fifth party. Unfortunately, that doesn't work in a winner-take-all system based on the Electoral College.

Because the tea party and libertarians are such awesome options. How about no parties and ranked choice voting.

A third party in the US would just replace one of the 2 existing parties so within one or two election cycles we'd be back to two anyway. And with the way the parties are acting currently it would probably be the Republican party to collapse and be replaced.

Here is an absolute Insane idea that would solve a lot of hot garbage. not everything but A sizable chunk.

No More Political Parties.

The candidates Civil resume should be all that is considered. like an athlete. numbers good? hop on board. performance bad? gtfo.

then make those positions Non-renewable, similar to Jury duty. So it creates and fosters an environment where the best decision is made based on the facts presented not the exuberant and rooster cawing emotional rant that comes from the horse shit eating mouth of a 40year incumbent senator. you serve your 2, 4, 6 year whatever position of politics and then you go back to your life. that could be a babysitter, fireman, hoarder, engineer. Fuck this representation of the people. Cut out the middle man. Make the People Represent themselves.

but that's me. :/

Yet talk about voting 3rd party and get attacked by straight ticket absolutist

I went third party in 2016 because I was disgusted and at the time I didn't think my state would ever be anything but red. Since then I've learned that I am very much in a swing state and Republicans have made it very clear they are going full fascist. There is at least one conservative think tank spreading the idea that we need a "Red Caesar" which sounds a lot like Mussolini to me. I don't know if it's possible to shift the Democratic party further left or not at this point, but I won't be voting third party again unless there is some massive change in the way we handle elections.

Regardless of what side your on as a Canadian I'd warn you that you need ranked voting for this kind of thing to work. We don't have that here.

We have one prominently right party and 2 left parties. This heavily skews the votes towards the right as left votes are being split between 2 parties. Often as a left voter you have to vote for the more popular party even if you don't like them in order to keep the right leaning party from winning.

Ranked voting would fix this issue but neither of the 2 popular parties on eatch side, who can fix this want to fix it. Both the popular left and right parties work to supress all other parties.

If your not getting ranked voting that 3rd party will only exist to split the vote for whatever side its on.

A third party would be an improvement. But, really, parties are the problem.

Mostly due to embarrassed republicans who want a new republican party

Just remember - with first past the post third party is structurally prevented from rising. Get busy with local election reform in your state: look for ranked choice or approval voting initiatives with some steam

I'd settle for a second party that doesn't keep goldbricking.

And what is 63% more of nothing? Almost nothing!

Republicans would do anything to save the republic, except vote for a Democrat. 14a3 and we can be rid of Trump and Biden both.

… and unfortunately the reality of 3rd party candidates in the US - since there is hardly any “ranked choice” voting - means they only act as a spoiler for whatever candidate they either are actually aligned with, or whom they are being financed to siphon voters away from.

See Perot and Nader for the former, and RFK and Stein for the latter.

…And no - Bernie Sanders was never one of these as he dropped out and endorsed (in both his presidential runs) as to ensure as many of his supporters as possible would support the ultimate Democratic nominees.

https://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/17/green_partys_jill_stein_cheri_honkala

obama and biden had security chain the third party candidate to a chair during the 2016 election for wanting to be included

Murica will never allow more than the demopublican party

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/biden-promise-tracker/?ruling=true

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_republic

But what about no parties? I'm for no parties and maybe a little bit of nuance (gasp!) in American political discussion.

If any of you actually want to work towards a solution to this look into Forward Party. Forward Party is trying to make third parties actually viable through ranked-choice voting and open, nonpartisan primaries. Once states move past First Past the Post voting, it will actually be possible to vote for third parties without acting as a spoiler.

As long as the US sticks to it's long outdated and undemocratic FPTP voting model, you won't see a relevant third party in congress.

So, if Trump goes to jail before the republican convention, we might see them Nominate the runner up, and a third party run by Trump might split the vote?

It's funny how the founders were so concerned about political factions forming and basically put in all the safeguards they could think of to prevent it.

Given that Republicans are primarily behind these results I imagine they want a party more dedicated to the ideology of national socialism.

75% of independents, 58% of Republicans, 46% of Democrats

If only people voted for what they wanted instead of against what they were scared of because that number is more than enough for a political shift even if there were two alternative parties, one to each main one. The 'wasted vote' propagand is doing more work keeping republicans in charge than the supreme court is. Since more republicans than democrats want a third party, so the only worry should be that too many democrats get elected if we tried.

AND results are on a sample too small to be significant.

Then vote for one? We do have more than democrat and republican. They're usually not much better. Ain't no difference between 2 piles of shit or 5. It's all shit. Nobody who wants these jobs is ever fit enough that they should have them.

Really disturbing how nowhere in this post about 63% potential third party voters is anyone advocating for voting third party.

Vote literally any other party than Dem or Republican. I'm voting green for Dr. Cornel West and I'm proud to support him.

Edit: Dr. West is running independent now and I'll likey vote for him unless the greens nominate someone better.

THE TWO-PARTY SYSTEM IS NOT THE PROBLEM.

look, we became a global military and economic superpower under the two-party system.

We built the strongest middle class in history under the two-party system.

We ended segregation, and made huge progress in LGBTQ rights under the two-party system.

Solving our country's problems do not require more political parties. And the last time liberals tried this, Ralph Nader's spoiler party gave The election to George W. Bush, instead of Al Gore.

That's the Iraq War. That's the 3 trillion dollar giveaway to the ultra rich. That's blocking stem cell research. That's years of accelerated climate change. Years of no movement on healthcare.

No. Fuck that.

If you want to change things, take a note from the Republicans: change comes from WITHIN your party.

If we'd picked Bernie instead of Hillary, the Democrats would have become the liberal party we need.

Unfortunately we don't have a Presidential primary this year, when we desperately need one. So our choice is Biden or ... Full-on fascism.