[discussion]: regarding the best OS for a pirate
[discussion]: regarding the best OS for a pirate
This post started out as a question, but throughout two days of googling it became this compilation of links. I will tell you everything worth mention that I found, share my plan with you, and expect some critics (for the infos of course, please not for the silly hyperactivity of my ADHD brain over such a trivial matter 🥲). Tell me what do you think, is windows 10 enterprise LTSC IoT actually the best OS for piracy? Is it Windows 7 for best fps with games despite DirectX11 being outdated? Or maybe everything could be done through Linux + Lutris&WINE for example? I'm moving out from ubuntu mainly cuz I still don't know where to get Nvidia&Intel Drivers from 😂
So the windows community would infinitely shame you for using Windows 7 because it has no more security updates. Also I heard you neither have support for DirectX12 nor optimization for SSD, So windows 7 isn't optimized for ex: gaming even though most repacks were released for it. I don't know anything about Win8.1 and my experience with Win8 isn't good, so I disregard them here.
So it is Windows 10 or Windows 11, but both are bloated with ads, telemetry, useless apps, processes and services (why do I have Cortana!?) and forces you to update. Win10&11 presented what is called "windows as a service" instead of "as a product", a policy which sucks for us users.
But I heard about Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC, which has minimized telemetry and non of the annoying apps, I don't know about auto-updates though, but I heard it doesn't receive them often. I also learned that I better choose IoT version of the later for longer support (2032 vs 2027 for non-IoT LTSC). Now I have multiple choice of guides:
Downloading Microsoft's official copies, debloating and activating them:
1- the r/piracy guide which suggests these two files, which are both 2019 versions. But I'm happy to see the size is 3.78 GB, so I can burn the 64x on a DVD!
2- the r/WindowsLTSC Megathread which sites to this guide, which again suggests this friendly thread, and seems to be extensive and up-to-date. The friendly thread suggests tb.rg-adguard for downloading the iso. If you choose the options on this picture then according to the files.rg-adguard.net database you're downloading en-us_windows_10_consumer_editions_version_22h2_x64_dvd_8da72ab3.iso . Not Enterprise Edition, so I think we just disregard this particular part of the friendly thread and download from the pastebin in the Megathread.
--->cons: This is a bit extremely hard, especially since I'm on Linux rn.
3- Microsoft Activation Scripts developers also provide direct links to download , without the heavy guides. But will I be able to uninstall Microsoft Edge for example later? This one might be the easiest yet balanced route for now.
honorable mention: This Russian site, called nmclub, claims it offers 22H2 version of Windows 10 Enterprise IoT, but it is not LTSC I guess?
Modified Windows copies
1- Ghost Spectre Superlite which apparently doesn't have an official site, rather an official Youtube channel (which I linked) but it is constantly updated on the tech-latest.com website. the videos prove that the system supports android emulation well (I think, tbh I'm not considering this one, just included it cuz people who tried it speak positively about it)
2-Revi Os I heard it has an active Discord community and has a GUI tool that allow you to enable whatever you want,
3-Atlas OS (this one is open source and has a Github page and is said to give the best gaming performance and least resources usage, I'm really considering it!).
--->PS: as far as I understood, both Revi OS and Atlas OS are applicable on your installed win10/win11 using this open source project called ameliorated which itself had its' fixed Win10 1903 version.
4- Slimdown10: from the mydigitallife forum. The creator states:
The tool eradicates all cloud stuff, telemetry stuff, spying, tracking stuff, UWP bloatware, suggestions, ads, etc by removing them directly from DVD media (before installation, not after it). It also integrates latest updates and turns Windows Update into manual mode (no more forced updates). It is fully open source with no hidden stuff or blackbox features.
using Scripts
1- Win-Debloat-Tools Looks like the most maintained open source one out of them. Along with Sophia...
2- In this reddit comment, a user recommended to:
install Windows Enterprise or Pro, and use Sophia Script to remove the Bloatware that comes installed and use O&O ShutUp10 to disable the telemetry and spyware that is possible.
Because security updates are extremely ultra important when you are connected to internet.(?)
3- privatezilla: This one seems lightweight and easier to use, but not up-to-date, idk.
honorable mentions:
- This redditor from 2021 seems confident that the three tools he mentions, combined, fully remove telemetry?
- winutil: an open source supposedly "One Tool for Everything" as the title of the youtube guide by the developer says.
my plan:
- I will just download the r/piracy 64x ISO file,
- burn it on a 4.7GB DVD that I have (probably using ubuntu MATE's Disk Image Mounter) cuz I don't have a USB rn,
- Activate using MAS Tool,
- Download Drivers Manually,
- Maybe use either Win-Debloat-Tools or winutil if I feel deranged. ngl, they got me sold just by having gui and being open source
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56I left that part for the comment section as an exercise, since it took me 2 days just to figure out which version of Windows 10 to download. Those who think windows 7, windows 11, ubuntu, manjaro, linux mint, Pop!_OS, Arch or fedora are all invited to share their stance, with mention to problems like: drivers, lightweight, internet connectivity, privacy ...ect.
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The best OS for piracy is any security focused Linux distro like Qubes and Tails.
The second best pirate os is any general Linux distro.
Pop os is a distro with nvidia drivers pre installed.
42So they are installable on- say ubuntu for example ?
2You telling me you couldn't install nvidia drivers on Ubuntu? It's one of the friendlies distros for new users out there.
Official instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaDriversInstallation
TLDR: "sudo ubuntu-drivers install" if that fails read the instructions.
25Yup. Nvidia are installable on any linux distro, some just have tools to make it easy.
I don't recommend ubuntu but it has an easy to use device manager that makes installing nvidia straight forward.
I would suggest you look instead at Mint which has all the good stuff from ubuntu with all the cruft removed
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sounds like a lot of work when you could just install arch or nobara and be done with it
40I heard Arch uses something called Wayland, which doesn't go well with Nvidia
-11Any linux can use whatever you want.
Arch comes by default with nothing but a terminal and then you can install X.org or Wayland, whatever you want.
18It depends on what you install. You can do an arch install without Wayland. I'm currently running x11 on Arch with Wayland also installed so I can switch back and forth at any time.
However, unless you like to spend time learning how Linux works, I'd just go with another distro like Nobara. It will have everything you want pre configured.
4I've heard many of the Nvidia/Wayland issues have been resolved. I personally can't use it because I'm running an LTS distro with too many old packages. e.g. mpv does support Wayland now, but my distro is stuck on 0.34 and you need 0.35+ if you run Wayland.
I'm planning to hop distros again because of this.
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Or easier even: Linux.
Strap Linux Mint, Pop_OS!, or your favourite Linux distro on your PC (I personally tend to recommend Linux Mint, it automatically installs the nuveau open source Nvidia drivers but will prompt you to choose which Nvidia drivers you want in the post-installation menu). For media piracy you're good to go, for gaming, honestly I'd rather recommend just using steam whenever you can but if you have to pirate a game see if you can find it for linux first, otherwise go for Lutris/Wine or a virtual machine, worst case scenario you can do a dual boot with a windows copy but honestly if you don't want any hassle just stick with Linux and games running on it.
36Spoiler: Everything except MacOS or Windows
29TempleOS?
16The most private and secure OS indeed. You won't find malware for this thing.
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OSRS?
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I would recommend Fedora or Pop!_os
18For whatever reason, on my Pop!_os the app store didn't really work. Maybe I just used the command line to install things improperly, but I switched to mint a while back and everything's been going great so far.
1Try Mint
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If you care so much about avoiding analytics and advertising why on earth are you "googling" your questions on the world's largest advertising and analytics website?
6google is manageable for me, especially because of firefox extensions, but windows is unmanageable, ads on desktop and using my data plan (limited GBs) secretly. My problem is not with privacy, it stems from the performance of my pc and internet. Much like the problem with Denuevo. Also, I don't sacrifice performance for the sake of privacy, for instance I'd uninstall google apps from phone cuz they use resources, even little, but I won't use a VPN cuz it will make net usage slow.
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I'm just gonna store this 4chan discussion here so I don't have to bookmark it. Ignore me please.
5Slipstreamed windows wim or these super stripped down variants will cause you pain in the arse. The only way is a non-mac and windoze.
2Have to disagree as I've tried pretty much all of them. The most popular "tiny11" by NetDev (not mentioned above) is actually a bit of an arse with stuff broken. Same with the others. You shouldn't need to skim through a Telegram group to figure out how you create a new user account... (Amolierated, I'm looking at you).
However, the one where it all just works is Ghost Spectre Superlite. It is proper clever with its app that allows you to add the features you need and install the updates you want, or not if you prefer. They released a tweak to get CoPilot working too which just worked. And all in a tiny image with neat tweaks plus all the bloat gone. And the only one where my laptop instantly resumes and works perfectly with Modern Sleep. Worth a look.
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No mention of Tronscript?
2just googled this Tronscript, and after consulting the Github page, I can say with confidence that I'm too normie for this
2Fair enough. It's not for the fainthearted. 🤣
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Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
the youtube guide by the developer
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
1tiny10 and tiny11
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I would recommend Manjaro. Very beginner friendly, has access to the AUR and a great community forum where you can find the answer to any question or problem. I took the leap years back from Windows to Linux and it was one of the best things i ever did.
-12https://github.com/arindas/manjarno
Use EndeavourOS
19EOS all the way. I parked my ass there several months after they first released, been happy ever since.
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Please no. First of all Arch-based distros (or rolling releases in general) shouldn't be recommended to newbies at all, secondly if you really have to use Arch (you almost certainly don't but suit yourself) go for a good distro like Endeavour OS or Garuda Linux, or just install arch itself (there's archinstall if you are afraid of using Arch the way it's supposed to be used).
I say this as someone who uses Arch (btw) or rather Endeavour OS. It is a nice and mostly smooth experience granted but you will eventually run into issues or packages that are not in the official repos and you will need to put up with it. Arch distros should be viewed as tinkerer distros not newbie distros (unless the newbie wants to tinker and put up with it, of course).
9I don't get the downvotes. Manjaro was my first distro and although it didn't take long to move on to Endeavor and finally vanilla Arch it was a nice launch pad for me. The distro absolutely has its foibles but that said it has introduced many folks to the Linux way.
To my mind any distro is fantastic if it helps get a user past the top soil.-2It's gone the Ubuntu way and enshittified itself to a grand mess. Stick to pure Arch, it's not as hard as before now.
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