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Gollum @feddit.de

2y ago

The highest temperatures ever recorded in European countries

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The only chart where Italy clearly outperforms neighbouring countries! 🍕 A side note for any European who wants to feel superior: the Italian minister of infrastructures has declared recently, speaking about a deadly bus accident which had strongly shocked public opinion, that the vehicle being electric can not be ruled out as a cause for the event, implying that endothermic engines are still preferable (source).
- That's what you get when you vote dumb fascist politicians into power. I bet it's not the first time some erratic explanation was given from one of those right wing politicians.
  
  Yes, agreeable (I would not have used those words though, the real danger is not in this minister nor in his party). But why do you think they were elected in the first place and why is their consensus soaring day after day? Are people just "dumb"? Misinformation? Distrust of more moderate parties who did nothing to prevent the current crisis? This is a place for discussion.
- The bus being electric, means the firefighting procedure is the same as with electric cars: wait for it to burn up... along with anyone still trapped inside.
  Electric is the future, but don't forget that:
  Gasoline ignites at -40C, needs oxygen
  Diesel ignites at +50C, needs oxygen
  Biodiesel ignites at +130C, needs oxygen
  LiPo batteries can ignite at -200C if punctured, will burn underwater

It's pretty alarming that most of these temperature records were actually broken in just the last few years.

In France, I understood the fight against climate change is probably already over when we had 40°C at midnight one day of the previous summer.
It's an eary feeling to feel ultra hot air in the middle of the night coming from an opened window.
Not saying I'm not trying to act against climate change on my level but I know we already lost.
- Well it could be 45 at night. And it will be if wr dont tackle climate change quickly
  
  Are we tackling anything in the last decade ?
  Do people look at the ever increasing graph of CO2 emissions worldwide ?
  It increased last year. It will increase this year.
  Let's do our best to delay it but it's happening people.
  Our politics are all cowards no matter the country.
- No, there is no upper limit to suffering.
  If one person has been killed in a fire, that's bad. If the fire killed two people, that's worse. If it killed 100 people, that's even worse.
  There is no magical point where you say "Oh, there are 42 people that we could rescue, but we won't, because 600 people have been killed already and that somehow makes the rescue pointless".
  If we can reduce suffering by just a bit, and delay the worst just a bit, then it's worth it.
- It's definitely not late but it sure feels hopeless...
- I don’t agree.

Don’t worry about it. Everyone dies eventually, and most of US will be dead before it gets unlivable. Just enjoy the fall of humanity! It’s gonna be a wild ride.
- The most important part is that we made a few people really rich in the process

Wonder how many of these were in the last 2-3 years...
- Not as many as I expected: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_weather_records Freak weather situations do happen, but I'm quite sure averaged highs would nearly all be in the last 2-3 years.
  
  Neat link!
  There's another set of graphs on that page that do show we are setting more high temperature records and fewer low temperature records over time, which while not really what I was saying, is still relevant and interesting (and scary)

Please remember that France has islands near the Equator
- Well, highest temp is from metropolitan France. In fact, highest temperature in oversea France there is at 40°C. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extreme_temperatures_in_France
- Sure, a few measurements from a small number of tiny, unimportant islands are going to prove that climate change isn't real, or whatever.
  Anyway, why do you think they're talking about political Europe, not geographical Europe?
  
  Sure, a few measurements from a small number of tiny, unimportant islands are going to prove that climate change isn't real, or whatever.
  What?!?
  Anyway, why do you think they're talking about political Europe, not geographical Europe?
  Because there are borders and borders aren't geographical but political...

How is Ireland 7C lower than the UK.
- stable west winds from the open sea i'd guess.
- Because of how Ireland is situated in relation to the Atlantic polar fronts. UK is basically blocked by Ireland with regards to those, so it doesn't benefit from them in the same way.

Don't worry, it's just a sun thing, it will be back to normal in about three years /s
- Well, you’re right that these temperatures will be normal in three years.

Im sure there was more than 39.5 in Poland

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