Thanks for the warning I guess??

My phone warns me I've been listening to music at a dangerous volume for a dangerous amount of time 100% of the time when I'm driving and listening via aux.

yeah lol, I'm often plugging in slightly high impedance headphones that it just can't drive very well. it's never seemed worth it run run a dac or get a special pair of phone headphones. i rarely use it that way anyway.

but yeah, pretty much every time i plug them in i have to confirm i want to hurt myself before it will allow them to be set to a useable volume.

and yes, i do still have a headphone jack, they are still out there if you're willing to not get a super expensive phone.

With the removal of the headphone jack, phones have lost the ability to not know what is plugged in. USB and Bluetooth devices have information that the phone could account for but chooses not to.

maybe it's just not possible with the current (probably ancient to not break older devices) protocols

I really hate that “no one:” shit, it often doesn’t make any sense to me.

your phone doesnt change it back when you disconnect Bluetooth? that's harsh.

Mine warn me only when it's purposeful. As you say, if I change output devices, and the sound is too loud, it says nothing. It literally only interferes with me doing something I'm purposefully choosing to do, and failing to protect me from shit I'm doing accidentally.

This is the real issue. The same volume is totally different on different devices. If they want to implement this feature correctly they need to measure the actual output of the headphones.

Ideally disable all the nanny features and block forced updates. If I fucking want an update, I will prompt it myself.

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There's an app for that: https://github.com/zacharee/Tweaker

You'll need to use adb to grant special permissions that an app can't request on its own.

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adb shell pm grant com.zacharee1.systemuituner android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS
adb shell pm grant com.zacharee1.systemuituner android.permission.PACKAGE_USAGE_STATS
 adb shell pm grant com.zacharee1.systemuituner android.permission.DUMP

  

• Audio & Sound --> Disable Safe Audio Warning --> Disabled
• Persist Options --> Checkbox Disable Safe Audio Warning

I think it's a legal thing so they're probably not allowed to get rid of it.

I have never once seen this message I'm my adult life, using Pixel phones since the pixel 1.

Although I do try to be respectful of my ears since I have fairly loud tinnitus already so maybe I just don't listen to music loud enough to trigger the message.

If you're connected to a device that has independent volume management, then you can max out the phone volume and still have it be too quiet.

I most often run into this with my speaker setup in my workout room if I forget to turn up the volume on the receiver before hopping on the treadmill.

But, the other reason to not go too high is the audio can start degrading if the volume is too high on your phone.

You're dependent upon the recording you're listening to having been set to a decent volume to begin with. I will occasionally come across videos or music with significantly quieter sound than usual. I know what a good volume for my need at the moment is, while this warning is a dumb automatic pop-up based solely upon the single factor of the master device volume control setting - without any consideration for the actual decibels being output.

I have a USB-C to audio jack adapter/sound card, which doesn't provide enough amplification for my headphones at "normal" levels, so I have to raise it beyond what android considers "save" in order to even hear voices enough to understand them, if the environment around me is a bit noisy itself. At maximum level it is still not really loud.

Shit even with headphones, I don't need this crap because I ain't using some POS headphones without their own volume control.

What are you using that does that? That's annoying af.

The liver is evil and must be punished.

I agree with the concern you're raising, but most of the time I ran into it, I was using bluetooth to a radio that had its own volume control. The phone was just reacting to the volume setting, not listening and knowing it was too loud.

I haven't seen that happen in a long time, though. I saw elsewhere in the thread there was a way to disable it, so I might have done that, but I don't recall seeing it at all on the newer Samsung S24 I got early this year.

It's a Samsung "feature". If you turn the volume up high enough, it warns you about hearing loss. Even if what you are listening to is super quiet so you have to turn it up to hear, and even if you are connected to a speaker.

Edit: Apparently it's not just Samsung phones anymore, instead it is an Android 14 feature. And apparently some other OEMs have had a similar feature for a while.

Hmm I'm in (western) Europe and don't get any volume warnings at all. Not sure why.

If you have high impedance headphones and you're not using a headphone preamp you're not getting everything you paid for out of those cans.

I get it on android. I've had it on LG, Samsung, and Sony phones

It's a legal requirement in Europe I believe. I'm not sure we'll get fewer deaf people that way. We'll see.

My android 6 tablet and my android 13 phone both do it when I have earphones in.

Im the same as you. In my 50's. My hearing is severely damaged, and my right ear whistles like a thousand sex-crazed crickets 24/7.