Women and LGBTQ+ people take up guns after Trump’s win: ‘We need to protect ourselves’

I do not blame any woman or queer person arming themselves in the U.S. right now. But I think that you should think of it as personal protection rather than preparation for something larger.

Be aware of this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disarmament_of_the_German_Jews

The Jews of Germany constituted less than 1 percent of the country's population. It is preposterous to argue that the possession of firearms would have enabled them to mount resistance against a systematic program of persecution implemented by a modern bureaucracy, enforced by a well-armed police state, and either supported or tolerated by the majority of the German population. Mr. Carson's suggestion that ordinary Germans, had they had guns, would have risked their lives in armed resistance against the regime simply does not comport with the regrettable historical reality of a regime that was quite popular at home. Inside Germany, only the army possessed the physical force necessary for defying or overthrowing the Nazis, but the generals had thrown in their lot with Hitler early on.

Obviously, women and queer people are a lot more than 1% of the population, but you can't count on every queer person being on the right side and you certainly can't count on every woman to be on the right side.

With sentiment like "your body, my choice" floating around more and more, I hope that everyone in need will arm themselves accoringly.

Because the guys on the other guys think they are made of steel. Remind them that they have a lot of very vulnerable blood vessels close to the skin and that knifes are as cheap as their lies...

Jessie McGrath, 63, a lifelong Republican who is trans, grew up around guns on farms in Colorado and Nebraska. She decided to vote for Harris when Republicans started attacking gender-affirming care and “wanting to basically outlaw my ability to exist”. She ended up being a delegate at the Democratic national convention.

“Government getting involved in making healthcare decisions is something that I never thought I would see the Republican party doing,” she said.

What the actual...how are people this ignorant.

The left needs to get on board with this. Govt isn’t going to protect you from far right militias when the shit hits the fan.

Can confirm, my wife has expressed an interest. We're just waiting for the local LGBTQ friendly range to open.

The other local ranges are either run by cops (ACAB) or require NRA memberships to join. Yeah, that's not happening.

Im a liberal guess who now has a gun safe with multiple guns?

I guess we are making America great again by arming the liberals too?

Fucking FINALLY.

Yes, women should be armed. Gay people should be armed. Trans people should be armed. Religious minorities should be armed. People that are on the political left never should have ceded the right to keep and bear arms to the political right.

I'm planning on getting certified as a firearms instructor through the NRA (because no matter how shitty the NRA-ILA is, the training programs are solid) this coming year so that I can start working with The Pink Pistols and Operation Blazing Spear.

I would strongly suggest that people try reading This Nonviolence Stuff'll Get You Killed: How Guns Made the Civil Rights Movement Possible.

If you're one of the people that is considering getting a gun, please listen to the "It Could Happen Here" podcast episode titled, Safe Gun Ownership.

American ‘solutions’ for American problems

Remember that step 2 is to practice!

The whole Russian project was to have our "polite society" collapse as we, as Americans, lost all faith in our institutions and turned against one another and in the process, also lost any kind of collective identity, which makes us a weaker target externally. That happened.

It's crazy to me, looking back, how much this was openly discussed along the way, as it successfully happened in slow motion over the last 10-15 years - wasn't there also a book released that just laid their strategy bare? If there are historians in the future, will be amazing to read the perspective on all of this with time and analysis from those not trapped within the cycle of death and hopelessness.

At this rate America's 4B movement is gonna stand for "bang bang bang bang"...

Guns!, the cause and solution to most of America's problems.

Stay strapped or get clapped...

It feels like they picked the worst screenshot intentionally though when talking about that YouTuber...

Like, maybe it's a new kind of magnifier that you flip up to use instead of off to the side to not use. But that AR just doesn't look like whoever built it knew what they were doing.

Like the BLM protests where it was obvious people went out and bought ARs just for the event and didn't even put sights on beforehand.

That being said don't wander around gun YouTube on your account it only takes a couple videos for the algorithm to decide you're a gun nut, and that comes along with a bunch of other rightwing videos, because normally it does.

But Reagan is the one who passed Cali's gun laws, and he did so because people he didn't like were marching with guns.

Obviously it would have made more sense to start when Biden was in office, but it seems like unless protestors carry guns, the cops will just beat them without a second thought.

If they even think some have guns tho... Cops won't do shit.

Checking 2 boxes out of 4 from the Libertarian dream

I have a conundrum, maybe people in this thread can weigh in.

I'm a woman living in an area with a small but loud MAGA faction and useless police who are probably also Trump supporters. I'm also not white.

Hunting is common here, and although I've never been I do know how to shoot and have access to classes if I want to improve. We also have friends and family with firearms and a couple of them live nearby.

I feel like I should get a gun. I know how to use one and I want to be able to protect myself if necessary. But I'm scared of firearms. Something about them disturbs me. Maybe it's the likelihood of someone dying once a gun comes out. Maybe it's just a fear, however unfounded, that I can't or shouldn't handle such a powerful tool. But the reason behind the feeling doesn't matter so much as my ability to overcome it, and I'm not sure I can. If I had money to burn I'd buy one just to see how I feel, but I don't so I can't.

In short, I'm torn. I want to be able to just get a gun for peace of mind and call it a day, but I fear that as soon as the gun is in my house I will become a nervous wreck and that will defeat the whole purpose.

I'd love to hear from anyone who feels the same or has overcome this fear.

Lol, this thread is a train wreck and is the perfect example of why Republicans keep winning elections despite being on the wrong side of history and having policies that hurt the American population at large.

The left will never win as long as we form circular firing squads and argue over petty bullshit.

Good. Gun rights are human rights. All people have the right to defend themselves and those around them. Taking that away by banning the only tool that evens the playing field is not OK.

We as leftists, must organize in ways that match the fascists. Subversion of their goals is our goal. The class and culture war is in full effect and we must not be complacent.

Nothing gets republicans talking about gun control faster than minorities arming.

Ive had one for a while. It's not something I hope to ever use, but now it's less likely that an armed person will be coming after me for my money, which I can just give and not have to kill to defend myself, and more likely they're coming for my life.

ah i see Aleksandr Dugin's book is coming along as he planned.

Time to get out of this country.

Own a corporation that owns all of your property. Have many guns. It's the American way.

Why are Americans answers to everything guns? So much paranoia and mental health issues in this country it's insane.

Me months ago: "the NRA matters and feminism matters and the solution is making sure women have more and larger guns and better tactical training."

Everyone back then was like "no guns are bad!" and now suddenly, look who is seeing the light.

Trans people should not be armed. Trans people should be given vouchers to buy large amounts of weapons so they can be HEAVILY armed and also should be given subsidized weapons training by the government.

When I meet a trans women, I want to admire her dress and know she has excellent tactical training.

We need to stop seeing gun rights as a left or right issue and appreciate the fact that guns are anti-tyranny. The left's constant anti-stance alienates a huge number of working class people as well. The problem with any sort of "reasonable restrictions" is the government always wants more, more regulation, more rules, and little by little it gets harder for the average guy or gal or intersex person. Liberals need to stop alienating middle America with this anti-gun stuff so we can protect trans people.

Feuer frei!

Too bad they didn't take up voting before Trump's loss...

'Cause nothing solves a gun problem like more guns**

** I am a gun owner for the exact reasons cited in the article.

America, can we stop it with the guns and violence?

I get the idea of wanting to defend oneself, but that ultimately means a shootout. It's hardly going to matter who shot the first bullet in the history books. The far right are also going to arm themselves when they see other people arming themselves. And it's only going to 'prove them right' in their eyes.

Do I have a better solution, no. But more mass shootings isn't going to be the answer. And it's only going to take one shootout before it's used in a legal sense against people. And guns aren't going to be what's made illegal in the United States, especially with a republican-controlled government...

Is it fucked up that part of me is okay if this leads to innocent men being shot as long as women are protected?