I am hanging on to my 1080p Samsung for dear life. It is about 12 years old, but the picture quality is still fantastic with LED backlighting and it has -- get this -- no smart "features".
Someone a while back on a thread not dissimilar from this one suggested looking into commercial display screens. A kind of BYO solution to the smart TV problems.
I feel the exact same way about my 42" 1080 Sony Bravia. It's heavy as fuck, so I had to hang it on the burliest monitor arm I could find, but it was built like a tank and the picture quality is still great. Bonus - since it's not a flat panel, the built-in speakers are more than decent.
I don't know about new ones, but you're right older Bravias are built like tanks. I got a 40" LED that's, uh, more than 15 years old now. Survived 5 rental moves, covered in nothing but cling wrap and chucked at the back of me car.
I have no idea what to do when it eventually breaks...
My 1080p plasma is still going strong. Sure there’s burn in but it’s had it since I got it and it’s a real big dumb tv. Dreading moving the monstrosity across the country, but it was the perfect price and I don’t want to drop a ton of money on a new tv during a time of uncertainty.
I will say my oled steam deck has made me want a better tv, but I can wait for it.
I have been surprised at how good some of the early LED backlighting can look versus OLED. My understanding is that the backlight in dark areas on my Samsung can be shut off independently area by area, so while the black point isn't as dark as an OLED, it is way darker than on a lot of other displays I have seen. So it's a good example of good enough for me.
What does it matter? Unless you’re going back to cable you’ll have to get a “smart” something or other and the “smart” ones always let you pass through the signal anyway so you might as well not deal with all the wires.
...all what wires? Back to cable? Not sure what you are referring to. I have a single HDMI cable plugged in to a dumb TV from a computer I control. All content comes in through that (with the benefit of things like ad blocking).
Smart TVs have features designed in part to collect data on you and facilitate things like serving you ads. Why would I want that as opposed to a TV without such "features"?
It wouldn't be an issue if the industry still offered dumb TVs, but by and large, they don't (for good reason -- they can profit off of the collected data).
For real though: it's easier to convince the wife if the old TV can be sold to make the space and get some money to put towards the new one. TVs can last for decades and it'll be a long time if you're waiting for it to get "broken".
He is correct tho. Unless we are talking about some more expensive tvs. Ironicaly more expensive tv dont last as long Beacuse they have more cutting edge experimental technology ( early OLEDs for example ).
old TVs last forever. After our decade old one finally bit the dust My family got a fancy ass huge 4k Samsung one and it died in like 3 months. No physical damage, it just stopped turning on 🤷♀️
Replaced it with a cheap 1080p one from Walmart and it's been doing well.
I miss my LG Plasma. Sold that dude with the house because it was super heavy and I was too lazy to unbolt it from the wall. Still regret that decision.
Perfect answer. For most people, no. I actually did make the jump to a 4k TV and sit close enough to it that I can visibly see the difference. About 8 feet from a 65" TV, still barely in the "Ultra HD Worth It" category.
It truly is ridiculously large for the space, everyone who visits us comments on it. My wife likes to joke when we watch Make Some Noise that the people are "life size". If you don't have a small living room and aren't planning at least a 65" or larger TV, than it's almost certainly not worthwhile.
Crazy to me that most AAA console games push 4k as the standard at the expense of 60FPS, given these realities.
Who the hell has a 100 inch tv less than the height of an average Scandinavian man away??
You probably wouldn't even be able to see the edge of the picture in your peripheral vision, let alone have enough of it in focus to be able to have a solitary clue what's going on in any movie scene or video game action sequence or whatever 😄
For me, it does, granted what other people said OLED you'll notice more than 4k. But ultimately it depends on what you like. If fidelity is your thing then go for it. If you don't care and are happy, then no need to rush
It is on work PC due to app scaling. On TV it greatly depends on it's quality, the quality of a source video and so on. Since I lucked into have an okay display, and mostly watch old 720-1080p shows and movies I never cared to update my TV, but since enormous 4k torrents are popular I guess people do seek and enjoy them. See if you have some friends with it and try watching a movie with them to know if you care about the difference.
do you have any source that would provide 4k content? I feel like even 720p is good enough at a decent bitrate. But it also depends on the size of the screen and the distance to it.
Made a huge difference when I replaced my 12 year old 1080p with a new 4K that wasn’t even expensive. Media these days is made with 4K in mind with the tiny texts and stuff, it was barely readable anymore on my old TV. But I also bought a PS5 at that time so I wanted to enjoy that as much as possible.
I gave the old one to a friend who’s not as privileged and always tight on money. Win Win.
I just upgraded because we got a new condo and I've never had an awesome TV, and I'd say it's totally worth it if you can put it to use, but with a decent 4K TV it's a lot more than just the resolution. You'll probably get HDR and 120Hz and Dolby Atmos and anti-jitter settings and upscaling and all sorts of crap and that really does seem to do a lot, compared to a midrange 1080p TV from >10 years ago, even if the source is 1080p. I even noticed a huge difference playing Baldur's Gate 1 on Switch. For reference I went from some midrange thing to an LG C4 65" (seems to be the best 'balling on a budget' TV out there based on reviews, I mean there are better TVs out there but this thing delivers 95% of it for half the price)
I just got a new LG 4K and I love it but (1) it's not connected to the internet (NVIDIA Shield Pro handles everything) and (2) I have a ton of 4K/TrueHD media.
FWIW I've also got 1080p and some old school TV rips and they look fine.
The kinect and even PSMove had great potential, but they never did anything that really stuck out. The wiimote was mostly used for one thing across multiple games: wiggle it and get a function that a button also did more reliably. That said they somehow released multiple titles that stuck with people for a long time, even some of the shovelware type games that actually used motion tracking were kind of fun. Meanwhile with Kinect, while microsoft still actively supported it, you almost exclusively had shovelware type experiences but they had the word Kinect in the title. Even Disney joined in. Those games were unapologetic garbage and largely didn't function, even with plenty of time setting up a kinect play space.
Kinect! I mean, a bunch of Wii games were really fun, but Kinect had some really interesting uses. And unlike Wii games the sports games actually gave me an exhausting workout. Without cheating.
Neither of the platforms really got to the fullest of the full potential though.
But even there, Kinect had one incredible example of where it was great. Xbox 360 Skyrim had the absolute best voice commands I've ever used anywhere.
Edit: Of these three, I have only ever tried the SEGA Activator. So I can pretty confidently cast my vote in favor of: either of the others, just anything but the Activator.
My wife brought a 37" Vizio into the relationship she got in 2008. It still works great. It's now hanging on the wall in the bedroom (and requires a special bracket because it doesn't have the VESA specified mount). We have a FireTV that allows us to stream television to it. It has survived two moves, plus being relocated in the house a few times.
So I'm with the guy in the comic - waiting for it to break could take forever.
Our living room TV and Blu Ray player are from that very short time period where you could get a 3D TV setup that uses passive polarized glasses, not active shutter glasses. (We've only ever watched one movie in 3D on it.) So even that is at least 9-10 years old at this point.
Obviously I'm not big on getting the latest and greatest TV, but if you wait until it's broken, it could be a while, in my experience. I'm generally with the wife on upgrading things, ie after they break, but for some things, that might not be a viable plan (or, the reward is worth it).