New oven and they lock the air fryer functionality behind wifi.

You didn't buy an oven. You bought a node for someone else's botnet.

If you didn't immediately take this back and demand a refund you're part of the reason enshittification is getting worse

Or American with fuck all in the way of consumer rights, one of the two

they're using the Wi-fi radiation to cook your meals /s

Thats really, really dumb. I can understand maybe wanting the option of having your oven ping your phone when the timer goes off, but what could it possibly need internet access for in order to turn on the heating element and a fan for a set period of time??

That's a big, honking "no" from me.

It'd be one thing if the "smart" features were there but only supplemented the basic functionality. It's another entirely for those basic features to require an internet connection.

Out of curiosity, did the product description indicate the internet connection was required? I'm soon to be replacing some appliances and want to know what to look out for (besides all mentions of "wifi" or "smart").

Why the fuck does an oven have a touch screen? That's a horrible idea. Good luck cleaning your kitchen without accidentally hitting "buttons" on the oven! And heaven forbid food splatter turns on your oven broiler.

Smart appliances are such a ridiculous scam.

For OUR best experience ( not yours )

F&&& that. Send it back.

But they told me I can just not connect it to the internet and it'll be just like any dumb device.

Eventually these things will come with modems built in so you can't even do that.

So basically you paid money to store someone else's oven. How long before we are installing vending machines in our kitchens instead of fridge and stove.

My microwave is a 1977 Amanda Radarange. It can boil a cup of water in ⅕ of the time a modern microwave can.

Now granted, it has zero fancy settings and a simple number pad that does nothing but set how long you want the microwave to run.

But honestly, this simplicity is a large part of it’s charm. No connectivity needs, no features locked behind paywalls, no extraneous bullshit or never-used features. Just a tool that does only one thing, and does it exceptionally well.

It's only a matter of time before corporate WANs like Amazon sidewalk and/or the ever decreasing cost of cellular modems and IOT contracts mean they won't even ask anymore.

In the mean time, these things are usually programmed with minimal effort. I have to wonder if there's an actual unlock process or if giving it a completely isolated subnet would satisfy the check.

I bought one of those ge induction ovens to swap out a gas one. The only smart feature I liked was the ability to turn my oven on to preheat from my phone. Guess what feature just doesn't work no matter the tech support help i get with it.

Please say there isn't a subscription

Why the fuck can't we make things hot without the internet? FFS

Fire: "I got you, bro."

I wonder if they will eventually make a toilet bowl to connect to the Internet. Can't flush until you connects to the Internet just because....

Seems to me like they do not know how to make a good oven.

It's so you can have the New Turkey Mode

If they will be running a botnet with your net at least it should be a fair pay.

That's because air fryer.

There are no dumb air fryers, are there?

Our GE Profile oven did the same. Of course the software is so shit, it tripped up connecting to the VLAN I set up and now it has air fry mode and no wifi.

Maybe try switching to airplane mode on your phone while trying to onboard the oven? I’m sure it’s too late for that.

They are smart because they know how to spy on you without telling you.

Any smart feature must be optional.

I have smart lights at home, none is required to get light in the rooms, they are only used for mood lighting.

Maybe you can buy a DLC to have additional functionality. Or you need to pay micro transactions with each cooking. No money is wasted.

Ugh I see CAFE in all caps and all I can think of corporate average fuel economy

It’s so the AI can reminder you to buy chicken nuggets, if you plan on having them every night next week as well.

What does the dismiss button do? Or the back button.

Just based on the messages (that could be miss leading) sounds like some features will not work.

Would be interested to know of you can connect, enable, then block it's access to the internet. That's what I did with Wyze cams.

Even setting up a vlan doesn't work half the time because the mobile apps don't talk directly with the appliance but phone home to a cloud service. A cloud service that will eventually go offline and leave the appliances orphaned. That's how GE's thermostats work.