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Decolonization is not a metaphor

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"Oh, so you support the warsaw uprising???? They're terrorists!! What about all those innocent german families killed!"
So much colonizer seething this week.
- Obligatory reminder that Germans were killing 100 random Poles for every killed German even before the Uprising. Yet that didn't stopped the active partisans, even those moderate and currently acceptable ones of AK.
- Even the Germans weren't stupid enough to live five hundred feet from the extermination camp walls.

The lib take on Israel/Palestine and Ukraine/Donbas is just
- hey that's
  before it was

Yes. Next question please.

Never forget,

Mr. Travis, cruelly murdered by his own Slaves

Highly recommend reading the Red Deal, which is written by Indigenous socialists on what they think decolonisation should entail.
- I've got a copy! @redtea and I talked about it a bit when we were trying a book club.
  I thought it had some good points, but I was disappointed in some bits.
  
  Just curious, what were you disappointed about?

Excuse me decolonization is me listening to a 2 hour video essay and buying a handwoven tote bag from a poc-owned small business. Colonized people should never engage in anything that would meaningful improve their life because that would make me feel bad.

Yes,
and if the spirit of Kewinaquot wills - then it will happen again.

Killing civilians is just wrong on many aspects: • Often civilians have no choice on the handling of political affairs (unless they directly voted for the fucking war in a community council; and, mind you, 1853 USA wasn't a direct democracy, nor Israel is today. Today's governments are further from a democracy than ever, considering) • Waste of resources, they should be organizing to fight actual forces; this will just radicalize both parties and it won't bring a peaceful resolution
Should we just kill immigrants that come in our countries then? Or should we make fucking segregation part 2? Or maybe don't you think that promoting is just the best way to get to live like decent humans together independently from ethnicity? No, let's just behave like those nationalist monkeys of the 19th century
- "We just sorta accidentally moved into Native American land after our soldiers killed most of them and drove them West." - A completely innocent colonial civilian.
- Killing civilians is just wrong on many aspects: • Often civilians have no choice on the handling of political affairs.
  Do you agree that the bombing of Hiroshima was a war crime?
  
  Yes
- There are no civilians in a settler colonial project.
  
  Speaking as a person of Latino heritage, with a bit of Indigenous blood, I'd rather limit civilian casualties to a minimum. I agree with your overall sentiment, that civilians aren't innocent in settler-colonial projects, and are part of the problem, and play an unfortunate part in colonialist violence against oppressed peoples, and I wouldn't tell oppressed peoples how to wage armed resistance if they are achieving good results.
  I'm just saying that as much as I hate many bourgeois Amerikkkrakers, I wouldn't want them to be killed unless absolutely necessary. Though the fog of conflict often breeds confusion and tragedy.
  
  I'm no expert in USA colonial history, but just because your state deports you in a new land because of your criminal past actions, or because you were born from the wrong vagina shouldn't get you killed. Why kill settlers when you can go for the root of the problem, the state and the economic forces which are making it in a monster? We colonialize because of capitalism, and forces which just don't care for human right. I think that in a conscious and a actual, non-tainted by capitalism, and people-led governament, this shit wouldn't happen. The Israeli gov. chooses to handle the situation in a violent way, and it tries to radicalize the conflict; not the people, people just want to live. We can't talk of democracy today because we're just so far off from the people's desire.
- Settlers aren't civilians!
- Should we just kill immigrants that come in our countries then?
  How about we stop killing and abusing them first.
  
  You didn't get the metaphor, or whatever it is. I think segregating Palestinian out of their territory it's just Nazi shit. But man killing civilians which hardly take part in the government is a tribal behaviour. Both parties are wrong by many accounts, they should (but so we do) overcome national states and go for a state which is not driven by a ethnic/national sentiment; nobody owns that land, they should just share that land without persecution, just like I'm willing to share my country's soil and right to vote with immigrants which want to participate in my democratic state.
- I know you're full of yourself,
  But go tell that to the other ndns who's families, languages, and way of life was completely destroyed by the "heckin wholesome settlers" you're apologizing for.

You see, humanity lives in a perpetual cycle of "fuck-around" and "find-out". When your population is well taken care of, and your country is boasting a strong military, its all good to swang that big dick and disrespect your surroundings. They're big boi, they can handle themselves, and they can especially handle all those pesky people living on the land you want. So they get cocky, bold, and brazen. This ends the fuck-around cycle, and a new cycle begins. The oppressed decide they don't care if they live or die, they have a shit life, so they're going to bring down the ones causing this. They retaliate in horrific ways. Afterwards, everyone forgets when they come into power, thus starting the cycle again.
- That is simplifying humanity at an extreme level
  
  Class is in session tomorrow if you need the details over the gist.
- Bruh go outside and touch grass lmao
- Swang that big dick, disrespect your surroundings...underrated kanye bars
- Please "find-out" yourself.
- New theory about the whole structure of human history based on like two observations
  Idealism much?
  
  You circled around to make this comment after replying below. Its not idealist, one whose conduct or thinking is influenced by ideals that often conflict with practical considerations. If anything my statement was too practical for your liking and thats why you've felt the need to dog pile. Idealism would be claiming humans can live in perpetual peace if they just stop fighting, that is something that ignores the practical considerations of a societal situation.
- You see, humanity lives in a perpetual cycle of “fuck-around” and “find-out”
  Promoting itself to redditors as an alternative to Reddit was Lemmy's greatest mistake.
  
  K
- you see you're a little fascist fuck who cheers for using white phosphorous on white civilians. I only wish you were in the barracks while Hamas was clearing them out one by one. You won't even see this because I'm banned from your gas swamp of an instance, and that makes it even better. You are not even able to say anything against me, but everyone will see your fascist ass for what it is.

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