Zelenskyy responded to Putin's suggestion that using "Oreshnik" to hit Kyiv would be "interesting".

https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1869795224467452033

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Don't forget, it's not only putin, it also at least a strong majority of russian society (if not an absolute majority) that support genocidal imperialism.
- When that view is the only thing projected to you your whole life, you will believe it.
  It's a sad state of affairs.
  
  I disagree. You are infantilizing the russian population.
  Russia has been involved in genocidal imperialism even before putin (Moldova, Chechnya, Georgia, mercantile involvement in Nagorno Karabakh - all this happened in the 90s).
  In the 90s, TV stations were openly critical of the government, yet putin was elected again in 2004 even though he shut down much of the mass market independent press.
  Since ~2010, most major European news agencies (DW, BBC) launched russian language YT services. The rise of smartphones and lack of YT censorship meant that almost everyone had access to independent news in a few clicks. They could even access local independent-leaning news services (TV Dozhd also launched their YT channel around ~2010).
  Russian genocidal imperialism and authoritarianism is a direct product of the choices russians make. There is nothing inherent to the russian population/culture that stops them from showing humanity. They just don't want to.
  They need to realize that they hold responsibility for their actions and that no one is buying their victimhood polemics.
  
  MAGATs are zealously gripping the handle of the shovel they're slurping & gargling that same brand of fresh bullshit from. FWIW.
- No
  
  You're either trolling or you are ignorant.

The original Ukrainian word is a bit harsher than "dumbass". Perhaps, "dumb fuck" is closer.
- Diplomacy!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oreshnik_(missile)
::: spoiler Oreshnik
(Russian: Орешник, lit. 'Hazel tree'), is a Russian intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM) characterized by its reported speed exceeding Mach 10 (12,300 km/h; 3.40 km/s), according to the Ukrainian military. The missile is equipped with six warheads, each reportedly containing submunitions, and has been described as highly difficult to intercept, though modern ballistic missile interceptors are designed to counter this type of system. (...)
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Symmetrically in the West, you will find angry people who, momentarily discarding any regards for human life, would find it "interesting" to destroy ruSSia in a nuclear Holocaust.
- Symmetrically in the West, you will find angry people who, momentarily discarding any regards for human life, would find it “interesting” to destroy ruSSia in a nuclear Holocaust.
  Is that really true, though (with respect to the "west" specifically)?
  And why is it wrong to disregard the lives of people (not a few people but somewhere between a strong majority at minimum to an overwhelming majority [*]) who wish you, your family and your fellow citizens harm?
  [*] With majorities holding across any and all demographic segments; age, income, rural vs urban, education.
  
  i am sometimes one of those angry people in the West who wishes revenge. But if it comes to nuclear Holocaust, not only would the russians be destroyed, also many people in the west would perish. So, I'm wishing for a better outcome.
- Much easier to justify the destruction of the aggressor

That comes across to me as a threat.
Like go on do it it will be interesting to see what happens in response

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