IDF says Hamas fighters killed and decapitated babies at one kibbutz near the Gaza border
IDF says Hamas fighters killed and decapitated babies at one kibbutz near the Gaza border
The IDF told Insider that soldiers found a number of decapitated babies in Kfar Aza.
- Israel soldiers say they found dead babies at a kibbutz near the Israel-Gaza border.
- The IDF told Insider that some had been decapitated.
- The kibbutz was attacked by Hamas on Saturday, and there was fighting there into Sunday.
A spokesperson for the Israel Defense Forces told Insider on Tuesday that its soldiers found the decapitated corpses of babies at Kfar Aza, a kibbutz near Gaza.
The spokesperson, Major Nir Dinar, did not say how many babies' bodies had been found, nor how many had been beheaded.
There hasn't been independent confirmation of what was found, though other Israeli media have reported the same claim and attributed it to soldiers.
The spokesperson told Insider: "These people are animals. They have butchered women and children in worse ways than ISIS."
Reports started to emerge on Tuesday that Israeli soldiers had made the grisly discoveries at the self-sustaining rural community near Gaza.
The kibbutz was attacked by Hamas militants on Saturday, with fighting continuing there into Sunday.
Nicole Zedek, reporting for the Israeli news station, i24News, said: "Babies, their heads cut off, that's what they [the soldiers] said."
Headless babies is the type of outrageous claim I would expect from a military that wants to justify an escalation. They're also dehumanizing the other side by calling them animals.
Not saying Hamas is innocent or didn't do it, I'm just very skeptical until this is confirmed by a neutral third party.
53This 100% sounds like propaganda and nothing more.
Roll your eyes, downvote, and move on.
19Verified by multiple international sources at this point
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The shitty part about modern wars is the massive amount of misinformation that we have to sift through to get the real story. Social media is a new front to be fought on
10Hyperbolic claims are sometimes lies used to justify a particularly enthusiastic military response. This was done by Kuwait after the invasion in 1990. Kuwaiti officials testified that Iraqi military forces were killing babies in incubators in hospitals. These reports were false but they were promoted by the Bush administration as a moral justification for Desert Storm.
On the other hand, sometimes hyperbolic claims are dismissed, as were many reports about the Holocaust.
My estimate right now is that there will be approximately 1000 Israelis killed, between 10k and 20k Palestinians killed, and that most of the killed will be civilians. I also think this will effectively end Hamas as an organization and may permanently change Gaza for the worse.
6Also not saying whether it's true or not, but I have a similar reaction to imagery like headless babies, human shields, heads on spikes, etc.
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‘IDF says…” yeah I’m just not gonna take their statements at face value at this point in time.
25I24, the news website referenced for the story in this article, has a record of being unfactual
15Disgusting, everyone knows you can only kill children AFTER they throw stones at you right IDF?
13I wonder if the folks supporting Hamas yesterday will chime in here, too.
I mean guys, what's a few baby decapitations in the way of oppression? De-escalation?! No, clearly decapitating babies is the righteous path. /s
To be clear, I think Israel needs to deescalate as well.
10BTW I think the point is that Hamas is a reaction to the israeli oppression, not that it should be supported. Obviously this is disgusting behavior.
10Yes I understand.
I didn't support the US attacking Iraq. I don't support Hamas attacking Israel.
An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
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What's a few decapitated baby's between frinds
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
A spokesperson for the Israel Defense Forces told Insider on Tuesday that its soldiers found the decapitated corpses of babies at Kfar Aza, a kibbutz near Gaza.
The spokesperson, Major Nir Dinar, did not say how many babies' bodies had been found, nor how many had been beheaded.
There hasn't been independent confirmation of what was found, though other Israeli media have reported the same claim and attributed it to soldiers.
Reports started to emerge on Tuesday that Israeli soldiers had made the grisly discoveries at the self-sustaining rural community near Gaza.
The kibbutz was attacked by Hamas militants on Saturday, with fighting continuing there into Sunday.
Nicole Zedek, reporting for the Israeli news station, i24News, said: "Babies, their heads cut off, that's what they [the soldiers] said."
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2For anyone like myself that didn't know what kibbutz means
From Wiktionary;
kibbutz (plural kibbutzim or kibbutzes)
A community, usually an agricultural one in Israel, based on a high level of social and economical sharing, equality, direct democracy and tight social relations.
From Hebrew קִבּוּץ (kibúts), derived from the verb קָבַץ (kaváts, “to gather, collect, assemble”).
So my understanding is it's basically like a farming village or cooperative?
Either way, any kind of violence or atrocities going on there is horrific.
1Pot calling the kettle black
-1An eye for an eye.
-9will make everyone blind.
9Enjoy being blind and toothless
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