Finland Seizes Ship After Undersea Power Cable to Estonia Is Cut
https:// www.nytimes.com /2024/12/26/world/europe/finland-estonia-cables-russia.html Finland Seizes Ship After Undersea Power Cable to Estonia Is Cut
The country’s prime minister said the incident, the latest in a series of disruptions to undersea infrastructure, underscored the danger of a so-called Russian shadow fleet.
At least Finland is fighting for the good of humanity.
Thank God for Finland.
15Sink the damned thing.
2Don't be silly. The thing is full of perfectly good oil (that would contaminate everything of you sank it), but which can pay for part of cable repairs, once nobody pays up from the Cook Islands or the "owner" company.
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Russian bingo card
- Cut under sea cables
- Shoot down passenger airplanes
- Poison people in horrible ways on other countries
- Having a large part of the population being unable to pass windows without falling out
- Invade countries (and thereby violating the treaty you signed saying you would not, making you as trustworthy as a Ferengi)
- Commit genocide
- I'm sure im missing more but i already got Bingo, yay!
65What does China even stand to gain from this behavior? Like, what do they have against Finland or Scandinavia in general? Is this something to do with Ukraine?
14The East wants NATO to destroy itself through disunity.
15This ship is not really chinese. It's registered to the cook islands, seems to be owned by an indian company, and the captain is georgian. It turns out that the nation of origin doesn't have absolute control over all the actions of its citizens.
Though if a chinese ship gets seized in international waters, that would be convenient 'precedent' for china to start seizing other ships in international waters in the south china sea
22From the article:
In a statement, the police in Finland said the authorities had boarded the Eagle S tanker in Finnish waters.
So no international waters in this case. In fact there are no international waters in the Baltic Sea ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_waters )
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You allow Russia to invade one country, you invite Russia to invade the next country.
You allow Russia to shoot down one passenger plane, you invite Russia to shoot down the next passenger plane.
You allow Russia to cut one undersea cable, you invite Russia to cut more undersea cables.
121Appeasement just means more lebensraum.
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The West must fucking find its balls and acknowledge that we are in a hybrid war against the blyats. It is high fucking time we fight back. Using every means short of direct military conflict.
153Why should we stop short?
Russia is actively in combat with an Eastern European nation and has been for 4 years. It's arguable that the rest of Europe and the West engaging with Russia on a battlefield would actually save more lives in the end by shortening the conflict.
They can't make war if you remove their means to make war.3Because it's far more effective to wage an asymmetric non-shooting war. We have far more resources than the blyats could muster. We could outcompete them 100-fold in every fucking dimension. we could gradually weaken them until their miserable state crumbles. All without the devastation of war.
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Unlike the previous ships, this one was immediately seized by armed forces, so I guess we're starting to wake up.
80To my knowledge, it was escorted to Finland from international waters by the coast guard, after which the police quick-response task unit stormed the bridge via helicopter. Had the ship refused to leave international waters, there’s nothing they could have done. I applaud them for their boldness and aggression, but luck also played a role. As far as I’m aware, the previous ships never entered any country’s territorial waters.
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I studier the west is fully aware of that, and is fighting it on multiple fonts
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We need to stop pretending that nuclear armament is an excuse to trample other countries with this childish crap.
Cut their internet and declare their currency holdings forfeit. Ban all travel to Russia. Force all companies to divest their holdings in Russia. Eject them from the UN.
Force them to live alone and if China joins in, then start ramping up production and give 'em the same treatment.
134Keeping it tense between them and China is so good, alone theyll never make it. Watching Putin the panty poisoner and Xi Pooh bear give each other crusty blowjobs and get nothing from it is top 👌
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Just start ‘accidentally’ sinking the fucking ships that ‘accidentally’ cut the cables and that will get the message across.
46Let's not sink a tanker full of gasoline into an already polluted baltic sea.
12Then just do what Egypt did to some ships, seize them for an investigation and do it over 40 years while the crew is detained.
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That assumes Russia gives a shit about it's people.
Tap for spoiler
Russia does not give a shit.
33Best use of spoiler ever...
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We need to go a lot further than this, but yes.
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I'm just waiting for the moment when a country exposed to "accidental" cable cutting, or attacks using water jets from the Chinese coast guard or similar, just responds by shooting first and asking questions later.
Like: You cut our cables/blocked our atoll from getting resupply, etc... put a 50mm in their face and carry on. Let them do the responding.
"Oh no, they were conducting acts of war and were in our way, so we sank them. What are you gonna do about it? Maybe stop doing that?"
23Do you think that they're not trying to provoke a reaction?
2Oh but they crave escalation. Like any bully, they want the victim to respond violently, because that would justify their actions and let them respond in kind, saying they are just protecting their security.
Even those ship arrests are fodder for their internal propaganda - "They just started arresting innocent Chinese ships with russian crews! Barbarians AND Facists!"
9Trust me, bullies back down after escalation. Ever punch a bully in the lip?
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"They were coming right at my boat! I feared for the lives of my crew."
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Time to ban anchors.
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