Cannot imagine that level of satisfaction

The irony is that, for the job I have now (which I LOVE!) I spent the interview talking about the databases and resources I'd created in the former shit job, and that work got me hired. My new employers treat me like absolute gold.

I love it when people expect loyalty's benefits without paying loyalty's price.

I always loved the "selfishness" take regarding jobs. It's business not friendship.

It's a middle manager whose presence isn't needed in daily stand-ups, as evidenced by the attempted micromanaging. We don't invite those fuckers to stand-ups because they just talk about useless metrics the whole time.

They also may have just not checked to see if everyone was on the call, especially if that meeting has a bunch of people on it.

It does seem probably fake, but being able to set boundaries and say no is definitely a major saving grace of freelance work, even if you have strong reasons to be professional about it.

It does, and it's old, but it's still a good story.

Ah, the Reddit experience. "Somebody did something cool, nobody ever does anything cool, time to put on my cynical curmudgeon cap and call it fake!"

Here's part 2 for those who don't want to click links.

Nice, Nitter link in case someone prefers: https://nitter.net/BirdRespecter/status/1483897633210974208#m

Fucking awesome lol. Sorry pal, you can’t just “forget I said that” and walk away 🖕

"Please call me"

Translation: I want to tear you a new one through a non-written medium so it doesn't get recorded.

"No"

Translation: You have no power here.

Just replace 'alien encounters' with 'internet stories'

Why do so many of you Redditors think everything is fake? Like, really, where's the evidence or even "tall tale" tone that makes this sound fake to you? Just because it's not common? Do you only accept things that are rarer if you see them in photos or something?

I understood most of those words, and still have very little idea of what is going on. Something to do with coffee?

I have no idea what a prio is, or a blocker in this context.

We do what I call a shotgun standup twice a week.

I hope that's not like a shotgun wedding. But anyway this sounds like a good idea more or less.

Even better if they scheduled it half an hour after the coffee shop opens.

Our stand-ups are always on and I think folks here forgot the idea of a stand up ... Nobody stands and so it runs a full half hour. I guess the time isn't as bad as it sounds because it is a massive system.

Depending on the work and the contract, it may be the company burning a bridge. Specialized labour can be both difficult and expensive to find.

Yea this is just silly and shortsighted. Reputation is everything, and once word gets around that you're a pretentious dick who doesn't need to attend meetings because you can't get out of bed, you'll be hard-pressed to find the next contract.

Unless the email pertains to the whole team and will take less than 5 minutes to discuss, keep it out of standup!

That guy probably doesn't have healthcare. Also, I think our boy here probably got fired anyway. If there's one thing a tin pot dictator absolutely can never permit, it's someone else escalating a situation without a response. If you have to have obedience at all times, that means you always have to be the one escalating.

You can use it against them, of course. People will escalate even to the point that it gets them fired, as long as they didn't have to back down.

Nah, "call me" always means "let's make this a real-time social hierarchy game, because I'm good at exploiting verbal cues and expectations to shove people toward my desired goal."

Or it's the manager seething with rage, wanting to vent that rage, but not being able to do it adequately via text message.

Yeah and a normal employee can actually be fired. But independent contractors are usually on completely different contracts so unless the contract actually says they have to start at 9:00 a.m. they don't have to do anything. Refusing to start at 9:00 a.m. is not a breach of contract like it would be for an employee.

I'm a contractor because the company that I contracted for is far too cheap to actually pay full-time staff, I tend to get in around 10am ish (although one time I started at 4:00 am because for some reason I had loads of energy and couldn't sleep but then I finished it like 11am so I still did short hours).

As long as a contractor does the work there isn't really much else they can complain about unless the employer puts other stuff into the contract. It sounds like in this case they didn't.

And get fired without pay. Contractors have some problems of their own, but their contract usually guarantees a certain amount of pay and if they're any kind of smart, specific job duties.

Independent contractors, by definition, control their own hours and method of work. If a company tries to control their work, the contractor is actually an employee. This matters because companies have to pay FICA taxes for W2 employees, but not for 1099 contractors. It's a type of tax fraud called employee misclassification that the IRS has been cracking down on.

Considering that they feel entitled to his time i think it's fair. They also try to threaten him into submission to their rules. Some people are so accustomed to powertrip that they are genuinely surprised when they can't do It.

When I do freelancing as a engineer, I had to be like this too.

Lots of startups hire freelancers, treat them like shit and assume you're part of their 80 hour workweek teams. Those companies often also never survive for very long, where I'm still here.

Naa this is the attitude needed for ass in chair management that only does one thing and that's micro manages people. People like this know their only existence is to be a over the shoulder back seat driver who has no other ability than to tell people what to do. Good managers let their people do what they were hired to do. If your projects are getting done and the customers aren't pissed, then I don't care if you're watching reruns of always sunny and drinking beer on a Wednesday at noon. These micromanaging shits are done for now that WFH has basically shown very little of them are needed, and they all know it.

Do you, boo.

Yeah I kind of agree, but it's hard to say anything without a lot more context. I think daily meetings for staff isn't a bad idea as long as you keep it to the point, projects can develop daily and it's a good way to keep things on track. Having meetings doesn't mean you're micromanaging. At an old job of mine we had weekly start of week meetings about our plans for the week. These meetings weren't from management, in fact we had to pull management into the meetings because we had stuff to discuss and needed input and approvals.

Also, not sure what sort of position it is, but I am surprised they said they were sleeping at 9. Everyone lives different lives and I know some jobs have different needs. I frequently login or arrive at work at 9, but I'm not sleeping at 9. I'm not hating on sleeping at 9, but if everyone else is working at 9 I'd wonder if this person is a good match for our work environment. Typically a stand up meeting means it's either in person or call in from the field, if this is an entirely work from home position than fuck it let them do what the want as long as deadlines are met.

Finally, why does this manager fucking care? It's a contractor, contractors are the lowest rung on the totem pole. Give them all the work they are required to do, if they don't finish it then follow the contract. If you don't like them, or they don't fit, or their contract needs renegotiation, or literally anything else just don't renew the contract. You hire contractors so you don't have to keep them. Being a contractor has the kinds of perks you see here, but you also have a ton of downsides.

What part of that interaction makes you think they'd want to work there after their contract expires?

The guy who texted him was a dick to start off. He didn't start of being an ass until the manager started getting uppity about a meeting that doesn't even matter. I have a weekly stand up on Mondays, and honestly we could do without it.

You are talking about the manager, right? Then you are correct.

Nah stand up meetings are unnecessary bullshit and a wet dream for managers and some team leads. Also I know multiple freelancers that all had stories about weird team leads that wanted to control them while literally not being their boss. They just crave the power over employees, they should just join some bdsm Scene and act out their fantasies there.