What video game have you played the most, that you think is garbage and no one else should ever play?
I have played Eve Online so many hours, and it's a bad game. Don't do it. you will spend hundreds of hours dreaming about the cool thing you'll do later, but for 99% of players the cool thing will never happen. You will be part of the one percent's cool thing.
Do you have a similar game?
League of Legends
It's a bad game that makes you bad by exposure
I really wanted to get into MOBA games, the idea seem really cool. But every one I've tried the meta/community seem infuriating.
It's just annoying how everything has to follow the "meta" and if you do dare to try something else and you don't perform above expectations you'll get shit on. I just want to play the game the way I enjoy it sometimes.
The worst game I've ever sunk thousands of hours into
I hate this game but I love Bard. He's the only fun thing in the game. ARAM too.
OMG so much this!
Yep, this is mine. And I have barely any time in compared to serious players. But when it was first becoming a thing I think I probably put in 50+ hours playing with my friends. As someone who primarily plays single player games this is a lot. Then I realized I hated every minute playing, and it was making me hate my own friends. It was actually stressful to play. I would be angry after ever play session. So I quit.
Fuck League of Legends. It's shit and no one will convince me otherwise.
it was making me hate my own friends
Yep. Other games it's easy to brush off a mistake and laugh about it. Just something about this one (probably the massive time investment and amount of attention required for every game) had us seething at each other... I played for 10 years and probably played less in those 10 years than most of my friends I played with did in their first 2... Lol. I liked team fight tactics, but blizzard did it better in my opinion. And they removed Dominion. Was the only game type that was worth playing. >.>
I've find aram to be pretty fun tbh. No raging or anything, just skill spamming and it's super casual
My dumbass ex-brother-in-law is deep in the process of losing his wife and two kids largely because of his EVE Online addiction.
I can see it, I played a lot, but I never lost my job over it.
But there were folks that were on no matter what, and as time has gone on the micro transactions have only gotten worse and more aggressive. So it's easy to imagine that those folks who were on 24/7 were burning whatever money they had on the micro transactions.
The high of the really good things happening felt SOO good. Like pulling off the perfect heist/ambush felt so good it pulled you through another 50 hours of grinding on the amount of adrenaline and endorphins you would get after that 5 minute victory.
I've only ever been a miner, and not a moon miner, but like the kind who goes to .4sec and just tries finding the most valuable ore... I know there is a huge pvp and pve scene, but like, where can I find it? I've also never been a multi boxer, so I have one character who over the course of 7+ years has trained every possible thing, and i have no idea what to do with that, besides maybe joining for a week and strip mining before gettin burnt out
I feel like that game isn’t good enough to warrant that sort of sacrifice. It’s gotta be more than just his addiction to tanking a fake economy…
Skyrim. The writing is horrible, I can't remember the name and personalities of more than 5 NPCs, the town's are microscopic, it can't handle more than 5 NPCs on screen, all the dungeons are theme park rides with gift shop exits, combat is a horrific sloppy mess, it's ugly, it has 4 voice actors, it's a buggy mess despite being released 37 times, the only way to interact with the world is violence, and all of the quests are flaccid boring murderfests.
I've played hundreds of hours.
Call of Duty. And any other game that makes you pay more money (after you've already paid for the game) for loot boxes that are basically gambling for kids.
I can't stand the state of modern games. They arrive broken, have pay-to-win models, and promote an unhealthy dopamine cycle of gambling and addiction.
I played a shitload of COD4 with friends in college. I think I played MW2 briefly and then basically dropped COD.
When I bought a PS5 I was looking for games with PS5 versions to show off the graphics and thought hey, why not get back into COD? So I bought Cold War.
The multiplayer menus and lobbies are damn near indecipherable nonsense. There is so much spam and shit I can't even see what I should do to play the game. It's a sad state of affairs how things are now.
It makes me sad to say it now because I used to love it so much, but Destiny.
It’s just a micro-transaction shadow of its former self now.
Definitely destiny, I realized I was paying an absurd amount of money for seasonal content just to play once a month with friends, the separate dungeon pass was the last straw, wish I had moved on sooner
I’ve lost interest in the game, but in terms of bang for your buck entertainment, I have no regrets for the money I’ve spent on Destiny. Even at 100 bucks a year for the most recent expansion and all the seasons, it still feels like a deal to me, but I’ve never spent a dime on the cosmetics and that may not be the case for others.
Genshin. Sucks really, and I felt that after I quit the game, looking back, I never had fun at all.
Imo Genshin is a decent game at its core. The problem is that the gacha elements make it really hard to enjoy.
That’s true. I just can’t seem to separate the breath of the wild aspect of it. It’s like I’m playing BOTW with more characters.
Weird I didn't mind the gatcha it's the fucking non-stop talking fairy and unskippable dialogue, I have 30 minutes to an hour of time to PLAY the game and I'm sat smashing A trying to get to the content.
Cookie Clicker
like drugs... just say no
I think idle games are interesting to mindfully experience. They - at least good ones - demonstrate the influence of external motivation, of progression.
Outside of that... Yeah. There's a fine line of experiencing theme and gameplay Design, and falling into mindless simple number scaling and waiting.
This is why Universal Paperclips is my favorite idle game, maybe my favorite game ever. It has an ending and you can even interpret a story from it. Definitely worth playing once.
This is a crazy one for me. I saw this for like 5 seconds and I knew instantly this would piss me off and I never ever ever touched it or any 'idle' type games. I would rather stand still and stare at a wall. I don't understand how anyone could find any entertainment at all. And apparently they are massively popular.
It does weird stuff to your brain. Just never start any of these and you're good.
Always thought I was immune until I was forced to play Roblox, of all things, with my niece. We played some kind of incremental / idle game and I had to continue to play this game. It was horrible. ( ; ω ; )
I enjoyed playing Cookie Clicker, but probably because I only really played it for a month or so - I can imagine playing that any longer would not be worth the time 😅
Elite: Dangerous.
Hell of a good space trucker sim. If you like spending 2 hours managing your ship before making a 6 system jump only to dock and do it all over again.
The king of 'oops I forgot my keys' simulation
You mean fuel scoop. Nothing worse than making jumps with a full tank only to get to your destination and realize you forgot to equip a fuel scoop. Better hope they have a fuel scoop you can afford that also doesn't take forever to refuel!
I second this. I really love the aesthetics and design direction - especially the sound - but the gameplay just falls flat after a few dozen hours. Doing anything cool requires copious amounts of grinding, and the story has been dead in the water for years.
It's a real shame that Frontier botched it so badly.
It says a lot about a game when in the end the early access period was more fun than the game 2 years after release. Definitely one of the biggest disappointments of my gaming career after the sheer bliss of it actually happening and the initial game being so fun.
I think they painted themselves into a corner with the code and everything just ended up being a giant slog that could never deliver the initial promise.
But the ship management is very basic and less complicated than what you'd find on ETS2 for example.
League of Legends.
I had some fun at the beginning but soon realized that this game just is way too complicated. I don't want to study a game and watch dozens of YouTube tutorials just to be at an average "not really bad" level. And my friends tried to convince me to play over and over again and I joined them without actually having any fun at all. Will never play this dogshit game again.
This is also one of the few games where I realized I was angry and unhappy whether I won or whether I lost. Just a super emotionally exhausting experience.
I feel like I’m a worse person when I’m playing league with chat enabled. I have to play with everyone muted to not get tilted. It kind of defeats the purpose of playing a multiplayer game
My biggest complaint is how it CONSTANTLY changes. I started playing back in season 2, and played pretty consistently for at least like 5 years or so. Then life got busier, and I would have to drop it occasionally for a few months. But then when I'd pick it back up, there were tons of new things to learn or find out no longer existed, every single time. It was exhausting to catch back up on to a point where the game was playable and fun again. I kept that up for a few years, but then spent just a little too long not playing one of those times and the barrier to re-entry was just too big, so now it's been like 2 years since I've played. And honestly, I don't miss it.
As someone who's been playing since season 1, I can't imagine starting the game now and learning all the champions, there's so much shit. Also low levels are filled with toxic smurfs which just ruins the experience. So yeah, I'd say LoL is a dead game for new players.
For me it's actually TFT ahaha. I've played enough league that I can come back and derust fairly quickly, but for TFT, I've always felt lost for way longer, because the entire set changes and the units and meta are drastically different to what I remember playing.
The one thing TFT has going for it over LoL is that it's not s team game so it's SIGNIFICANTLY less toxic.
It's Hearthstone for me. Spent a lot of time and even some money on a game that was just getting shittier every year.
I just couldn't click with Hearthstone. Wanted a time killer that I could jump into for a quick game or two and just couldn't figure out what was going on really.
Even at my lowly beginner level it seemed that everyone else knew what was going on and would ace me. And I was just left dumbfounded. Couldn't figure out if it was just me not getting the game or a load of smurfs.
Also doesn't help that there's years and years of content to catch up on and anyone new is just in an ocean of it.
Yeah, it was a bit overwhelming to get into. You only got the ball rolling once you had a good library of cards and could start experimenting.
Maybe get a template/concept from the Internet and then start changing things was how I learned the most.
But the barrier to entry became way too high over time
The single player mission packs were great. I loved Naxx and League of Explorers. I wish Blizzard could have just made that a separate game, since there was no incentive for unfun power creep in a single player experience. I guess Slay the Spire fills that void at least.
I wish there was a way for games like this to not have an annoying, expensive, ever-changing meta! That's always the reason I end up dropping games. Did the same for Hearthstone and League, it was either too expensive to try and have a feasible deck and/or too difficult to have to constantly keep up with changing metas.
It would be possible I think, but corporate greed is a thing.
Like if it was $10 a year to get everything, maybe with a slow free to play option.
But there is also a certain addictiveness of cards actually being rare and getting a rush when opening something cool. I don't know how you get that without limiting content and user experimentation, which is where most the fun comes from.
The main game is just impossible to catch up nowadays if you want to have competitive decks and not spend money.
However, I love Battlegrounds and buying the stupid season pass doesn't do much 4 me (4 hero picks instead of 2 and cosmetics that I don't care about).
Yeah, BG is definitely the choice these days, I never really could get into it though. Hearthstone was most fun for me when setting up elaborate decks around weird cards or combos.
I played a shit ton of WoW when I was younger. It stopped being fun a long time ago. Mostly it was only fun with friends.
D3 also sucks. Played a lot of that at launch, and also when the expansion came out (can’t remember the name). D2 was always way better, and now with D2R, I don’t think I’ll ever need to buy another game in my life.
D3 got better with age. The seasons, especially the later ones, were a blast.
Had to scroll way too far to find WoW. I'm still actively raiding wotlk classic with my small guild, but blizzard seems to have a policy of,
For everything. Server population management. Bots. Moderation. Customer support. It's incredible how incompetent they are. Any patch now they'll add RDF and I'll unsub one last time and be done for ever. Cannot NOT recommend it enough.
Yeah. I feel like blizzard has always been that way. How long have you been playing WoW? I feel like it was a product of it’s time. I quit before WoW classic got started, but I started playing the original about 2 months after launch. It was incredibly fun back then, but I wasted way too much of my life on it.
Hard agree with you that D2 was better than D3 in every way. I also bought D2r and played it a bit at launch.
Have you played any D4 yet? As someone who never loved D3 I will say that D4 has been refreshing. I have some low level gripes with it, but overall I am really enjoying it.
The Sims 4, I have 600+ hours on it somehow, don't even bother asking me how because I also don't know how that happened. It's widely regarded as the worst one in the series as it lacks the most content, has unbelievably egregious DLCs and it's plain out fucking boring compared to older titles. If I had to guess how I've played so much I'd guess it's the CAS (character creator) and building mode which are both fantastic, the game itself is blergh at best, especially without mods.
I feel this. I loved 1 and 2 growing up. Easily the most nostalgic games for me. 3 was pretty good but I didn’t get too far into it tbh. Spent a lot of time with 4 (pirated) and enjoyed it.
Fast-forward to a time where I no longer pirate games so I decided to play it through Xbox Game Pass with limited DLC and it was just bland. Felt like I was missing the “full game” and the price tag to own such a thing is out of this world. Last I checked if you want “everything” you’d be spending around $1k USD.
EA is disgusting.
I really miss playing Sims and Sims 2 growing up. That, and the random other Sims games, like Sims Theme Park. I loved those.
I do still play Sims 4 but MAN the amount of basic game content that is locked behind a million different DLCs is insane.
I like The Sims 4. I think it's the best Sims game. The mood system makes it so much more interesting than previous games and makes the sims feel a lot more like real people.
To each their own, I find it incredibly boring, easy and lacking in attention to detail compared to Sims 2 or even 3.
Destiny 2. Played it religiously and got like 3k hours in it since 2018, and just stopped last year. The grind was killing me season after season and the clan I was with has disbanded, everyone is super pissy in LFGs. Great shooter, but can't do everything from zero every 3 months Bungie. Qlso the rotating meta, and the frind to get it.
Path of Exile. You will watch a cool new budget friendly league starter guide on YouTube and follow it religiously. You will install or update half a dozen 3rd-party tools for essential QoL. You will ignore the new league mechanics until maps while speedrunning the same unskippable story for each character. You will hide most loot and avoid risky item crafting. You will pickup currency to buy your gear wholesale from other players. You will reroll your character or rq if your build has no defense or bossing damage or becomes too expensive due to popularity (Mathil effect). You will repeat this cycle in 3-4 months.
I tried to get into POE and I just can't. It's so obtuse and unfun for newer players, and I don't want to have to install third-party tools just to be able to enjoy the game.
I've got around 5k hours in poe and it's been a lot more hate than love the last few times I played a league; haven't logged into standard in ages.
I have recently been trying Last Epoch. It seems to really pull-in a lot of good traits from similar ARPG's. Still has a few bugs from time to time, as it's still in beta.
Warframe, Got over 2.5K hours and in-game hours show over 3K.
Used to play as much as I can as it was a game meant to be grinded, but eventually got worn out and stopped playing all of a sudden.
Tried playing it afterwards and by then the content got even more bigger that it was overwhelming to play anymore.
Sometimes I miss it but about 95% of the time I just don't feel like playing anymore.
Edit- Added hours and a Comma.
Warframe is overwhelming when starting it, but it's also incredible to see what it offers in terms of content, all for free (for the cost of grind).
As someone who spent ~3K of hours in it but haven't played it for months, I think it's important to keep in mind how you wanna play it. Don't continue the grind when you feel burned out, not playing a game for a while is fine too.
Edit sorry for the spam, kept giving me errors when replying lol
GTA 5 especially GTA online, idk how I used to grind that game constantly just to buy a cool car that I'd stop driving a few days later. It got better "recently" (2-3 years ago) with bigger payouts and single person heists but then the in game inflation fucked everything. I haven't touched the game in months because all I saw about it was how glitchy it was and how R* were removing shit that had been in the game for 10 years.
Cracks me up how Rockstar basically just committed digital GTA on the players
They have become exactly what they been satirizing this whole time...
I'm worried what Grand Theft Auto 6 will be, maybe the controller will be replaced with a credit card reader?
Idleon - The Idle MMO. The dev billed himself as a non-predatory mobile dev; premium currency could be reasonably earned for free. I was happy to support the dev by buying seasonal bundles. Then he started adding stuff that had to be purchased directly with money. Then he implemented FOMO with rotating bonuses. This guy makes millions a year and rants on Twitch streams about having to pay too much taxes.
Recently, he added a gacha system with a separate premium currency that cannot be earned for free so that the very few players who are running a hacked version of the game can't pull the best equipment. F2P players get one pull a week and will statistically likely pull the best bonus in 1-3 years, but there are already plans to add more bonuses and rotate out existing ones.
This was right after another controversial incident when many players exploited an infinite currency bug which was predicted and could have been removed well in advance. Historically, the attitude was "you guys had your fun" and he removes the bug with no punishment to players. This time, he went into full meltdown mode, posting walls of text on discord with screenshots of Steam reviews that hurt his feelings, then reset a bunch of exploiters' skill - not just rolled back but reset to remove months of progress.
He's recently removed a statement from the Steam page that stated mobile game developers don't have to be predatory, so at least he's self aware I guess? Steam reviews were very positive; recent reviews are mostly negative. He's responded by offering a concession that the best bonus is guaranteed after 200 pulls, which equates to 3.8 years if you're F2P.
I haven't quit the game yet, but I'm pretty close. My wallet is closed for sure.
Pour a drink out for a fallen friend. Hurts so much to see a game you once enjoyed devolve into utter garbage.
HA! It's funny cuz it's true! Eve is much more fun to read about than to play.
For me, it's most mobile games I've spent a large amount of time in. Recently it's Marvel SNAP. Before that it was SWGoH. These games are fun fun and they hook you but eventually you play enough to see all the levers they're using to manipulate you and it sours. I should really stop playing them... lol
that was me with clash royale, Id play just to get mad haha
Ugh, YES to any mobile game. I'll find a game on my phone, get sucked in, then after like 3 weeks be like... wait have I had ANY fun at all at this? And how many ads have I been shown? How much grinding would be required to finish this game? Then realize I should just uninstall...
And yeah Eve was crazy, cause I would rarely get the cool thing... but that made it worse. If I never got the cool thing, then it would have been easy to quit. But because I sometimes got a cool thing my brain would say "If you just played more then the ratio of time to cool thing would go up!"
I was really hooked onto Marvel Snap for the first 4 seasons I played (6-7 total now). The game can be a lot of fun. I haven't made infinite the last 2 seasons and I stopped paying for premium after my 3rd season. I don't regret doing that since the game has become more transaction focused and I feel it's quick turn around makes it more enjoyable than MtG. That said I wouldn't recommend someone to pickup the game if they are serious about competitive card players.
I just got an invite to DC Dual Force beta this weekend. Gonna make sure to keep my wallet closed. :-D
World of tanks and it's less terrible version but ugly mobile version blitz. The company actively despises it's playerbase, and I want to play a game like it but they all give up and copy them.
Armoured warfare was fun until they turned it into a clone with co-op. War thunder is more realistic and that's cool but mostly just annoying.
I just want more tank games that are fun to play and not microtransaction driven.
Came here looking for WOT. Yup, it’s crap but i keep going back, largely because i don’t know how much gaming time I’ll have due to other stuff going on and each round is 15m max.
Hate the microtransactions, and some of the playerbase is pretty toxic.
I just logged in every once in a while, but round Christmas I would play more to get some drops for fun. Then they changed the Christmas thing. Uninstalled and never looked back.
Years ago I started on WoT and went to WoWS and was immediately hooked. Loved it at first but they really do not give a shit about their player base. I haven't logged on to either in about 3 years.
I go back to World of Tanks every once in a while but it is impossible to enjoy it even though I want to. The concept is great, there are tactics involved, but the skill ceiling is just too damn high. So now whenever I get the urge to play, I instead watch a couple of streamers. Skill for his entertaining streams and well, skill (but he gets annoying when he starts raging about not being able to achieve his personal goals), and Dez for the generally chill vibes.
World of Tanks would have been a great game had it not been plagued with the entire pay to win aspect. And don't get me started on the whole crew training and retraining nonsense. I hate that aspect of the game, and still don't understand it. Do I keep the trained crew in a tank I enjoy playing or move them onto the next tier tank and then have terrible stats on the new crew and lose interest in the tank I started enjoying? Uff!
Temtem.
Extremely predatory design that tries damn hard to force you into micro transactions. And once you do, you have to spend so many hours to get what you already payed for. On top of that, the endgame is almost a completely different game with a different target audience than the rest of it. I regret all the money and time I wasted on it. Had to hide it in my steam library to get myself to stop as well. That kind of predatory shit should be illegal imo.
Stay away from that game, especially if you have any past issues with impulse, micro transactions, and/or addictive tendencies.
Bro go play Nexomon extinction. It's a really good single player mon game. Best I've found. Really funny story, cool monsters, and SO many good quality of life changes pokemon should have implemented a decade ago.
EDIT: Oh and NO microtransactions if you play on switch/PC. The microtransactions on mobile are pointless and make no sense, so don't play on mobile.
I just play the DBZ Pokemon romhack for GBA. It's hilarious.
Ugh, thats why it was on humble choice?
I have owned temtem for a few years and I haven't spent a dime beyond the initial purchase. I enjoy the more modern Pokemon type experience but I haven't played in about a year due to work and other interests. I had no idea ait had become so transaction focused.
It hasn't, it just has a cosmetic battle-pass now. They said it was going to have that back in the original Kickstarter.
Ooh thank you. It's on Humble Choice but I'm prone to microtransaction addictions so I think I'll skip this one.
Ah, oof.... I just picked it up with the Humble Choice. Thanks for the heads up that it's filled with microtransactions :(
Destiny 2.
Incredibly engaging loop, great gunplay/moment to moment gameplay, and an intriguing story that keeps me interested to see what will happen next.
Loaded with micro (and macro) transactions and time gating of reused content as the game approaches it's conclusion and Bungie prepares it's next project for launch (this project also highlighting the poor state the PvP section of the game is in.).
Again, so much of my time has been spent in Destiny 2 and a good majority of it I've personally enjoyed. But when asked this question it's my go-to answer to advise people to steer clear if possible.
Ha, I was just about to say the same exact thing. I've played around 4000 hours of the game because I love the core of the game, but as time goes on so many bad decisions just keep getting put on, and I've finally hit my point where I'm just checking out from it for a bit.
I've hoped on every now and then for either the seasonal story (which has wrapped up) or when a friend asks me to, but otherwise... It's time for my break. When everyone else in my clan had their breaks (Season of the Drifter comes to mind...) I continued to play, but not this time.
Their use of FOMO and timed content really worked against it for me. The new player experience now is just awful. I tried it a while ago. I played for 4 hours, and I had no idea what I should have been doing. I feel like that's a fair shake, and I gave up on it.
Don't forget about increasing the price of each season battle pass by just enough silver so you're forced to buy more silver than what you need. No new Gambit or PvP maps. Pay walling almost any "new" content (dungeon keys). I could keep going. But hey the seasonal story writing has been amazing.
I literally feel we're funding Marathon.
Looks like it's the same thread and I double posted haha
I'm from Thailand. We have a term called เกมหมา (dog game) which means a shitty game that gets you raging. The list varies from person to person but every list so far includes Dota 2 and League of Legends (which I have personally played). Other honorable mentions include:
Saving this comment so I can eventually find out how เกมหมา is pronounced .
Minecraft doesn't get me raging I find it soothing like playing LEGO.
The lack of micro-transactions (so far) is amazing to me as well.
Battle arena games tend to get people raging lol. I loved playing honour of kings but damn I raged so much I couldn’t do it to myself anymore 🥲
No ROV?
Thomas the Tank Engine on SNES. Me and my mates used to find it hilarious when high. Still do.
Looking at my Steam, the game with the highest number of hours played, of which I would currently say unambiguously that you should avoid it, looks to be War Thunder. Among the reasons I'd tell you to stay away from it:
I love/hate warthunder for all the reasons you listed. I used to play WoT, but I much prefer the experience of WT.
Stellaris. I can't recommend it anymore due to how fragmented the game mechanics have become due to the dlc model
eyes 2K of game time
Honestly yeah. Like the last 2 DLC's just did not do it for me, and I try to get excited and just can't.
What really killed me was my saves breaking every update while I waited for mods. Live service games, and relying on mods to make the game fun, are two things that don't mix well.
Skyrim modded is great because mods that haven't been updated in a decade still work
What I am seeing here is that mostly people regret playing free to play games. That tells me that their business model is working as intended but we should all wise up.
My regret is spending too much time making cool mods work together and then not playing the games, oblivion was the worst because I didn't get it until skyrim was a year or two old and there were so many stupid mods out already. Most of them are janky or old and have incompatibilities with each other. I discovered pretty quickly that I need less options not more in open world rpgs because I'm an adult and don't have time to play games the way my heart wants to (look in every door, under every bush, around every corner).
Free to Play games are basically a test of willpower. They use every trick in the book to get people to keep playing and spend money. FOMO via time limited events, gambling addiction via loot boxes/gacha, impatience via playtime or realtime limited resources, sunk cost via slow and difficult to earn resources/rewards. All of which can be "solved" with money.
On the other hand if you've got the willpower to just... ignore FOMO, ignore the gambling, and just walk away when you've played a little bit each day, F2P games actually offer incredible amounts of content. Over the past decade I've played about 5 different F2P games and never spent a single cent. Each one was pretty fun, and I just walked away when I got bored.
yeah the one I played the most of is Warframe, it's very doable to just play it and I'm impressed by the amount of content they have put out.. it almost feels like they failed at the model because I felt so little incentive to give them money beyond wanting to support them, fortunately they seem to be doing fine and I would think that would serve as a good model for others
The fact that nobody has said Escape from Tarkov yet is shocking. The desync makes you never sure if you were killed legitimately or from a cheater (of which there are plenty). You're brutally punished for every mistake, including those caused by the ever present audio issues. The developer, Nikita, will make the most nonsense changes in the name of stopping Real Money Trading, but all it does is encourage people to pay cheaters to get ahead since it gets harder to progress every wipe (the game completely wipes your progress every 6ish months). The quests are uninspired and boring at best, or sadistic at worst and encourage the worst play styles. This is honestly just a fraction of all the issues with the game.
I haven't played in probably 6-8 months and I will for sure go back because apparently I'm a masochist.
Hotline Miami 2. I've beat it on several platforms but I really don't think it's as good as the original.
Fallout 3. Mostly due to the mountain of technical issues it has on PC but even playing on console you can run into stability issues.
It's hard to play Fallout 3 when New Vegas is so similar and so much better.
Everyone says this but personally I always liked 3 more.
Maybe it was the nostalgia because I played it first.
felt the same way about Hotline Miami 2. it just didn't have the same feeling to it for whatever reason, despite the mechanics being arguably better/refined. That first game though, it's so good
I think the problem with hotline miami 2 is deaths feel much less fair then the original
Paladins. I've spent like 400 hours in it and tbh it's all hand crafted to keep you addicted and keep grinding their bullshit battlepass.
Honorable mention: Team Fortress 2. Game is great but Valve has pretty much done nothing with it. Last major update was in late 2017 and since then the game has received minor updates that usually only add shit for people to throw money at. The game still has a bot and cheater problem due to aforementioned fuck all Valve has been doing. Feel free to play, but you better open your wallet if you even want to speak! Let that one sink in, the game is free to play but you need to pay! To! Communicate! In the fucking game! Why? Oh the aforementioned cheating/bot problem of course! The bots were spamming racial slurs and other shit so Valve in infinite wisdom made free to play players unable to communicate at all! And that didn't even do anything! The bots just had premium accounts! There are cheaters in the game with very valuable items and are not banned. After all that trash talk the game is still fun, 4000 hours well spent. It's just sad that it's being left to rot.
Yeah this is why I have completely given up on competitive multiplayer like this. Bots and cheaters everywhere.
I used to love playing CS Source and FEAR (that was sooo fun) and COD the-one-with-wall-running, but then cheaters ruined it all.
I'm rediscovering my love for single player games so, it's not all bad.
Starcraft 2 custom games, i loved custom games back in the day but right now you need to grind to get to the good stuff in most of the maps and the community is weird since most have been playing for too long and aren’t friendly to noobs.
I miss the time where i could go into a random custom game and just learn the map on the go, bot having to grind or learn the correct upgrade path.
League of Legends. I've sank so many hours into it a few years back. It's not a bad game, just highly addictive and toxic. It was only really worth playing it with friends, but now they've all moved on.
No Man's Sky.
No, I'm not one of the fellas that fell for the hype. I didn't preorder it. I started playing around 2020, after many patches and updates, my expectations were very low. Even then, I was disappointed, because everything is half baked. I think ~10h is more than enough to see everything there is to see, then it's all pure repetition.
I still got almost 500h in it, and check in once in a while, but it's not "fun", it's just cheap comfort food.
You know I feel like I was the only person in the world who liked NMS when it came out. I didn’t preorder but I bought it within a month or two of lauch. It was fun to just wander around those giant planets not really doing much. I’ve actually liked it less since some of the big updates.
Expectations really affect your opinion on games. There were people who were hyped for NMS for years in advance. People who came to it with low expectations or later in the development cycle seem much less disappointed.
You and me both. NMS happened to show up at a time in my life when I really needed peace and quiet, so the slow pace and solitude of the gameplay was great.
I vaguely recall Hello Games saying that ~100 players are still playing on version 1.0, probably back on a reddit thread. You're not alone in preferring the launch version, though I didn't get to experience it.
Clash Royale. I was in a clan that spanned multiple mobile games but I was the creator/leader for Clash Royale. The game has transitioned to P2W the last few years. I only keep it installed as a time waster and because of the clan.
transitioned? I played it in 2017 and had to spend more than 70€ so I got some decent cards
It was certainly somewhat P2W since the beginning but it wasn't until Clan Wars 2 that it felt fully P2W for me. Before that you only needed one maxed deck which didn't take that long. Then came lvl14, then champions and lvl 15. Now evolutions are the next broken P2W mechanic. I haven't financially supported the game in years but someone must be giving them money and reinforcing these awful decisions.
I have spent far too long playing Magic Arena when it’s really just awful in pretty much every way you can imagine.
The economy is unbelievably broken because randomised packs are the only direct way you can use your gold to get cards, and they’ll almost never have the cards you need or in the quantities you need to have a halfway competitive deck.
Wildcards do allow you to choose to redeem them for specific cards, but they have to be of the same rarity as the wildcard and the mythic and especially rare wildcards you need so many of are always in short supply. Getting anything decent without spending real money requires a ton of grinding. I honestly wouldn’t even mind having to spend money if I could just buy the cards directly like in Magic Online, it’s much jankier but in my opinion better predecessor, but you can’t.
Probably the best part of the game is just the digital implementation of the game mechanics, but even there are some seriously annoying issues which come up not infrequently and can lose you games (like the autotapper for some reason valuing 1 life over keeping an extra colour of mana open for responses).
Overall it just feels like 95% of the time it’s just me grinding playing games with fast aggro decks I don’t even enjoy (I’m into control but it takes way longer to get your rewards that way). It’s just so so much worse than the paper game I love and I don’t think I would ever play it if it weren’t for the fact playing in paper is stupidly expensive for pretty much any 1v1 competitive format (commander is great and all and I have a couple decks, but it’s not my preferred format).
"Why do they play unlicensed simulations of our card games?" Said right before making it impossible to function in licensed online card game.
I agree 100%. - the Magic Arena economy is crap. And grinding is almost unavoidable, because even if you are willing to spend real money on the game to speed up the card aquisition process the value you get from most store purchases is also crap.
This would not be so bad if the grinding itself was fun, but it's designed to require you to not only play but also win games, which brings a lot of bad incentives - most people will just stick to the same meta decks, favor decks that kill quickly so you can get more games in a short amount of time, concede on the first sign of disadvantage, and so on.
Yeah, I played arena from alpha to release and a little while after that, and then off and on for a few years but the fact that it’s basically impossible to hop into playing at a decently competitive level is the exact same reason why I hated paper standard, but some how even worse because I can’t even buy the singles, I’m stuck playing the rng game with digital packs, to cards that I don’t really own, I’m just borrowing until WOTC decides to kill arena.
arena on low setting brings my i7 integrated GPU to it's knees, my laptop fans run on full blast and my room gets hot, if I get matched with an opponent that has a pet with particle effects it dips into single digit fps. meanwhile I get 45fps pretty consistently in wow
NBA 2K games. Terrible loot system that never gives you good stuff until it enters endgame near the end of the year. Then they turn off the servers a few months later and force you to buy next year's game that has the same graphics and a slightly tweaked playing mechanics.
But I honestly personally spent quite literally hundreds of hours on that series. Mainly cause I'm a huge NBA fan and I love building out custom teams and there's not much competition in realistic basketball simulators at the moment.
Yeah I'm with you on those games. I want to like them, but I always feel like I've invested way too much time for way too little progress that eventually i give up. Then I try again a year or two later lol
Yea, I eventually just resorted to playing the offline modes. It's much more fun than the rat race that is myteam
Path of Exile, I loved that game and consider its high point (3.11-3.14 approx) to be the best ARPG ever made and I put a good 1200 hours into it over 2-3 years but after they kept nerfing builds and items over and over (I didn't like playing the leagues (seasons), preferred the eternal playground of standard) I was seeing my time and progress get invalidated by pointless nerfs over and over in a PVE game no less, so I had to quit playing. The company became hostile to its player base, lying about and hiding major changes to loot drops resulting in more invalidation of people's time and effort. I understand it's a free to play game but they already made the best ARPG of all time and to anyone who loves that genre this game is majorly addicting already and all they had to do was add interesting content and leave the systems they had in place alone. So I'm on to other games played more casually and more real life stuff. Fuck GGG.
I loved PoE too. Imo there's too much stuff in it. I haven't played it for a while but I look at a streamer and it looks like you can't even walk 2 meters without having 25 different zone/league events happen.
This godawful matching mobile game called Hello Kitty Friends.
Seriously it's the worst. But also it's mindless and cute and when I had back pain that was keeping me up all night I used to pace back and forth across my living room playing it.
Temple run. I used to play it a lot back in high school, unlocked everything with gameplay only including seasonal things like Santa Claus. It was fun enough, but updates would regularily reset my game completely loosing everything I archieved and unlocked, and the developers never gave a shit about that issue. I eventually gave up on it because of that.
SWTOR
I’ve put at least 2000 hours into this game and completed all the endgame PvE content including an NA first/world second raid achievement and made a lot of friends in the game.
It’s still a shit game with barely any new content and now Bioware has pawned off the game to some company called Broadsword that looks like it specializes in taking over dead MMORPGs
I enjoyed that game as a mostly solo casual from launch up until about KotFE/KotET. When they condensed stats and made a bunch of class changes that kind of erased what made classes unique I never had as much fun. After that I would pop in every few months, run through a class story again and then get bored.
I gave up on it fully when I realized the 10th anniversary stuff they hyped up just never really came to be.
Man KotFE was such a disaster of an expansion. They put in so much marketing and built up so much hype for the story at the expense of every other part of the game. Then it comes out and the story is bland and the PvEers and PvPers have no reason to stay subscribed.
Oh god and don’t get me started on the 10 year anniversary. Justice4R4
I remember having a ton of fun leveling up my first toon. It was a sith juggernaut I think? Had a cool thing where you could recruit a jedi woman to join you either by being so evil you corrupt her, or so good she decides she'd rather be with a good guy working in an openly evil society than a villain in one that always espoused goodness. I thought that was super cool.
End game was awful, then the next expansion they utterly broke the companion system which was my favorite thing about the game.
Sooo... yeah.
I mean the writing was on the wall like a month after launch. How did you not quit back then?
It was fun to dominate Hutball for like 2 weeks and... that was basically it...
I actually stopped playing a couple months after launch and only after it became F2P in 2.0 that I played it sporadically every now and then to get a few levels. It took from release to 2014 for me to actually get one max level character lol
After I got to level cap I dipped my toes into raiding and cleared what endgame content I could but stopped playing again in 4.0 when they didn’t release any new raids for the expansion. Then any time they release a new raid I’d pick the game back up again and hit up my old guildies to rejoin me
Goat Simulator.
The Genesis Young Indiana Jones game. Played it a lot when I was a kid, because I owned very few games. Got so good at it I was able to beat the whole thing without dying. I loved that game.
Then a few days ago, James Rolfe played it in the latest AVGN episode and holy cow that game is absolute garbage. For the curious, you can check it out from 18:34: https://youtu.be/xPsN_rcEpu4
Dead by Daylight.
The community is absolutely toxic in a very weird way. I've played other games with famously toxic communities but in Dead by Daylight it has a strange spin. Some players heavily identify with the killer/survivor side and feel personally attacked by everything "the other side" or the developers do.
Imagine bringing Tumblr fandoms into an asynchronous and highly competitive Us VS Them game.
You will regret the day you cross ways with either an unhinged player of DbD who will stalk you throughout the internet. Or someone who streams this game and their unhinged fanbase.
Destiny 2.
I actually just started this. What’s wrong with it?
If it shows up in Prime Gaming, it's probably a game designed to extract money out of you via MTX, not a game designed to be fun.
Wurm Online/Unlimited
Like...legit? I really enjoy it. Buuuuut I couldn't tell you why. The whole thing is literally a grindfest. Want to craft a cart so you can haul some logs? Better grind carpentry for two days. Want to grind carpentry? Gotta search every patch of gravel you can find for a few hours to get iron and flint so you can make the tools to be able to chop trees.
It's a slog, and yet I play it quite often.....
I've been building a house for over a month now. Trash game but you better believe I'm finishing that thing.
I had a house half finished the 2nd to last time I played. Work got really busy, and didn't have time to get on the server for a week and a bit. When I got back to it, the damn thing had mostly decayed and I couldn't be assed to start over.
Oh goodness I have no idea why I spent hundreds of hours in this game! No graphics, combat was trash, you had to make arrows one by one, took literal hours to level the ground, and it was the most P2W thing I've ever played on top of having to pay monthly premium.
Why did I spend so many nights staying up late trying to get skills up??