Nearly Half of EV Owners Would Switch Back to Combustion Engine Vehicles: Study
Nearly Half of EV Owners Would Switch Back to Combustion Engine Vehicles: Study
Nearly Half of EV Owners Would Switch Back to Combustion Engine Vehicles: Study - EnergyPortal.eu
this statistic does not account for Tesla loyalists, as three-quarters of Tesla owners indicated that they would continue with EVs.
Some people just like Elon Musk
Bad headline. The text says "would consider", which is significantly different.
Furthermore, they don't identify the study at all, so I can't even go look at it. I don't see one on S&P Global Mobility's site that looks like the right one.
21Yeah, considering options is a sensible thing to do
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Looks like this statistic is being dragged down heavily by Nissan Leaf owners. The Leaf is a very niche car - not much space, horrible range, and questionable reliability. It's not surprising that a lot of owners have buyer's remorse.
15I'm not sure you're referencing the correct statistic related to the main takeaway of this article. Nissan EV owners were the second-highest group after Tesla (63.2%) to buy another EV, they were just low on model loyalty, not switching back to an ICE.
6Ah I think you're right, I was reading too fast and saw the very low percentage of Leaf owners who said they'd get another Leaf but they're still on the EV bandwagon
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The battery in the Leaf isn't liquid cooled either, so they don't last nearly as long as other EV batteries
4Maybe, but I guess it suits certain purposes.
We're never going back to ICE, though. Quite happy with our leaf, would happily upgrade to something else but charging it a couple of times a week is no bother
2I've been similarly happy with my Bolt. I've had it for 3 years and can't imagine going back to ICE, except maybe for a roadster. I miss my Miata.
It helps that I charge at work for free, but even before I had this job is was nbd to charge at the grocery store once a week. I struggle to understand people who are hesitant to try out EVs.
How has the reliability on your Leaf been?
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Have had an Ev for a year. Would not switch back. I'm saving too much money.
12Have an EV commuter car and a gas minivan.
No way I'm going back to double gas, I'm putting 25,000km a year on the EV and less than 5,000km on the van.
I'm saving a massive amount with current gas and electric prices where I live.
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Still can't even afford an EV to even think about switching back to one ...
7I would not want to pay double for a new car to be able to do half the mileage and instead of just fueling up, having to find a fucking Walmart god knows where and sit in the parking lot for a half hour. Super inconvenient if you plan to do any long distance traveling
6I agree. This study aside, I think EV is still really, incredibly shitty for working class people who can't afford it or for tenants who don't have plugs at home and need to sit at some WholeFoods or whatever like idiots to charge up.
And I agree about mileage. If I had to drive across country, where there may not even be any charging stations available, I would not do it in an EV.
I'm still torn on whether I should even get a hybrid. I hear those batteries are like ~$10k to replace and that's after paying more upfront.
6I would get a hybrid if there was one for the vehicle type I get that did not impact its capabilities. I live in a condo so unless our board gets much more cool I won't be able to plug in. That being said I don't know anyone who has an electric vehicle that has given even the tiniest smidge about wanting to go back. Quite the opposite. Now I know a goodly amount of EV owners but most car owners I know still have gas. Although I may not be the best example since by necessity all my neighbors can't plug in as well.
4The class aspect is definitely something that pisses me off about it as well. EVs seem to be debatable when it comes to them being more environmentally friendly after all, but it seems like anything that is or appears to be better, ethical consumption choices are reserved for people with money (But also there's no ethical consumption under capitalism obvs).
I'm fortunate enough to have been able to purchase a new hybrid rav, it was so worth it but I did also go from a 97 Mazda with peeling paint that can't climb mountain passes and does like 17 miles per gallon lol.
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If you don't already have a driving pattern that made having an EV convenient, you're not going to consider getting one in the first place.
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I've seen this crappy article posted to a few places. You can't simply exclude entire brands of EVs.
If you're going to exclude Tesla, why not also exclude the worst brand too?
This article was clearly aimed at ICE owners
4By the way, here in Australia, this nonsense article also made it to drive . Com . Au which also pushes ICE cars a bit
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Hasn't S&P Global Mobility been known to favor oil companies or had ties with them? I did some light searching and didn't see a connection immediately but I thought they were tied to oil.
Either way, https://www.spglobal.com/mobility/en/research-analysis/does-the-auto-industry-have-an-ev-loyalty-problem.html is a direct link to the study. It turns out this is about luxury car loyalty and space issues.
The Bolt saw households that went for gas power mostly turning to Chevrolet SUVs and trucks.
That's understandable as there aren't many large cars for EVs. Something the VW ID Buzz will fix if everything they present about the car is true. I am super excited about it and I am typically not excited about cars.
In terms of range and infrastructure, I feel like one concept theory that was originally pushed around at the start of EVs almost a decade ago was replaceable batteries. Drive up to a station, swap the battery out with a full one, and drive off. That doesn't seem like the direction we are heading but it might be a way to solve it. That said 200-250 miles with 30-minute charge times to get up to 80% should be enough for typical day driving in the USA.
That said, I also feel these studies reflect somewhat, not on loyalty for Musk but on brand loyalty. For a lot of people, Teslas are truly great and fast cars. In other cases, they are terrible. Not all of their cars have terrible build quality and there seems to be a point where build quality dropped. Equally, there are some great EVs out there including the Chevy Bolt. You can see that most Bolt owners are only switching because they need something bigger and still 63% of them would stay with an EV.
The issue is not price, range, or infrastructure. It's a lack of choice and a lack of build quality.
3The McGraws and the George W. Bush family have close ties dating back several generations.
Interesting to find out about S&P Global.
3Plug in hybrids are the best of both worlds. Any of the Toyota primes would be the ideal vehicle for most people. Too bad it’s near impossible to get one even if you have the money.
2Plugins are the worst of both worlds unless you pull in and charge every 50 km to not let the battery drain completely, because if that happens you just end up with an insanely heavy ICE car thats even worse on fuel than an ICE car without all the hybrid shit.
4I have been driving one for years. I only put gas in it on road trips. No need for extra charging time just go. For daily activities I never need to use gas. You’re spreading from speculation, I’m speaking from experience.
Admittedly, they are heavier. You got that bit right. I still got 40mpg on road trips.
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S&P Global Mobility attributes the struggle for EV loyalty to three main factors: pricing, infrastructure, and range.
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