When you get to the right answer with the wrong question

It's not that weird of a position. Penn and Teller did a show on it based on the then believed data that vaccines cause autism. (Which has now long since been discredited.)

They showed the statistics of dying/paralysis/etc were far greater than the chance of autism. So in their opinion, even if vaccines caused autism ( the debunked paper showed a tiny percent chance) , it was still safer to take the vaccine.

Even if it wasn't autism, there is a tiny chance your child can have a dangerous reaction to a vaccine. I was nervous with my children but had it done anyway. My son had a minor reaction to the Polio shot and lost the ability to walk for a couple of days.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=RfdZTZQvuCo
i'm not sure what you mean by this, because you seem to be implying that autism is somehow dangerous? which just obviously isn't true?
autism isn't bad, it's just different. If anything it's better considering how much we rely on science and technology and organization these days, we could use more autistic people who'll raise a stink when people skirt protocol for stupid reasons.
- It's worth remembering that autism is a spectrum. We are at the higher end, many benefits, with limited downsides. Others aren't as lucky.
  The argument was also a bypass type. Even if vaccines cause autism, and even if autism is entirely bad, it's still worth getting vaccinated. It cuts a lot of the talking points off at the knee. Even if we assume our opponent's position, it's still not an argument in favour of what they are saying.
- They're not saying it's bad. They're just saying "even if you do think it's bad, the chances are very slim and it's far better than the alternatives"
- If that's how we're doing it, we should get more Asians considering how much we rely on maths. Because Asians are good at math, right?
  It's not a great idea to stereotype people, even if you think you're giving them a compliment.

Autism: Better than polio

Autism isn’t an inherently bad thing. I have friends and a cousin with autism and they’re awesome and socialize and are just fine in society in every way. Stigmatizing it to make vaccinations seem horrible is just stupid in so many ways.

I mean autism is an inherently bad thing in that it's basically just raising the difficulty of life across the board, and that's for high-functioning autism. Low-functioning autism is its own beast. There are aspects to autism that would make someone think "oh no this could happen to my child?!". Still better than the imagined alternative obviously.
- There are some examples I’ve seen where, frankly, the difficulty is more that neurotypical people who’ve never had to try or learn how to actually communicate get mad when the bullshit script isn’t being followed. The only problem is that that group of autistic people have more difficulty not being honest, even if politely and constructively, when “tradition” is horseshit.
  The challenges are fake in way too many cases, is what I’m saying. Same with ADHD people being forced to fit into a mold that doesn’t even really fit the neurotypical people. It could so easily not be a fucking problem.
- this isn't true, lots of aspects of autism make life way way way way easier especially in the age of technology. There are so many things that are utterly obvious and trivially easy for me that allistic people around me can barely wrap their heads around.
  autism in a society that doesn't hate nonstandard people is just a sidegrade, there isn't really anything about autism that is inherently difficult, it's just different.
Yeah vaccines being good/bad is one set of politics. It's a whole other thing to add autism in just to use it as a reason to hate something else.

Someone once said:

If one assumes that autistic people, due to their special interests, are overrepresented among scientists, then it may not be a wrong assumption that autism can be the cause of vaccines.

Autism or death? And she chose autism apparently.

I mean, you're a pretty horrible person if you'd rather have your child die of a completely preventable disease than have a kid with autism.

Thankfully my mom was one of these. She became anti-vax after I got my first shots; I think she was a bit traumatized by seeing her little baby be so scared and then so sick, but thats just how vaccines work. She believes all the nonsense about heavy metals in the vaccines and 5g radio waves in the needle giving us autism, but she also believes that they do work and that an autistic child is better than a dead child. Therefore, I was a fully vaccinated child and all my shots were on time.

5g radio waves in the needle
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How does that work then? 😂
- Idk. I was exaggerating, but if memory serves during COVID there was a conspiracy theory that the new 5G towers could interact with heavy metals in the COVID vaccine and do...something? Dad and I still got our boosters.

As an autistic person, the world would be much happier of we all were. You neurotypicals need to stop lying to eachother every chance you get for y'all have any idea how confusing your casual dishonesty is?

Robert DeNiro has a child with Autism he is absolutely positively convinced was caused by vaccines, he's shushed a lot in public, but it's a rock solid belief of his. I have no idea what to say except, the science says it's not true, so I either believe one man's (more than that but still) personal experience and unimaginable pain at the unfairness of life, or I believe demonstrable scientifically tested fact. I go with the later, but still with Bobby well.

What gets me is the people so concerned about vaccines seem to completely ignore PFAS, pesticides, and the spoonfuls of microplastic we're finding in people's brains, cells, everywhere. Like, sure, something could be causing more autism, but why single out vaccines when there are so many other things it could be?