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Luigi Mangione Lawyer's EXPLOSIVE Allegations: Cops ILLEGALLY Detained Him, Searched Without Warrant

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oh I absolutely believe the allegation as plausible.
They NEEDED a fall guy for this and they NEEDED it to be so cut and dry that they could quickly make an example of him.
Even if Luigi DID do it? This is railroading for the sake of trying to scare everyone else to stay in place.
- That's the thing... Everyone is acting like this guy totally do it.
  From the start I had my doubts. Something felt off.
  The only thing I know is that the government needs somebody to go to prison over this. They don't care who though. This is the culture of law enforcement, so not even specific to Luigi's case.
  So we have to believe that they found this dude in fucking McDonald's with everything on him to get a conviction?!
  But people are buying it... Sure he has support but they also believe that he is a the guy who committed the crime. And I am just not convinced.
  Government behaviour around this case is suspect.
  
  Feels too... Tidy really. Too much like something out of a movie. High profile murder. Killer found. Killer has clear motive and everything is found on or near the guy. Suspect makes statements that sound like something Killer would say in that position.
  A line from the Running man comes to mind.
  'Once again proving Might and Right are one and the same!'
  In reference to a fake staged fight where State Sponsored Execution Reality TV kills a stunt double digitally made to look like the fugitive of the moment that has been making a mockery of The System. very neat. very tidy. Also, very Bullshit.
  Edit: For the sake of records. I do believe he did it. I just find it too... tidy that everything was on hand to immediately bring a trial rather than months of legwork to ensure an air tight case.
  
  Imagine if it's actually not him, and the real guy was able to get away because nobody's looking any more.
  
  he is-a the guy
  👀
  
  It's entirely possible he's just not the criminal mastermind everyone thinks he is.
  
  I believe they call it Security Theatre
  
  He had the gun on him
- How would it benefit the rich to have the real killer running lose while a random guy goes to jail??
  This is the weirdest conspiracy so far.
  It’s him, he did it, and praise him for doing it, he’s a legend. Neither he or his lawyers are denying it.
  It’s super weird that people on the Internet are insisting it isn’t him
  
  Oh I ABSOLUTELY am of the belief that it is him. However, I find it strange that so much proof was supposedly found on him to the point that he might as well have been standing in time's square shouting that he did it. There was no need to backtrace through his history, go through his home, interview friends or family. It was all There.
  That is what strikes me as ... too convenient.
  They don't want to go to the trouble of having this long drawn out process. They want thier gunman handed on a silver platter both to please the corporate overlords, and to show that they are competent.
  ...when they are anything but.
  
  The rich could have already discovered the real culprit and assassinated him quietly, rather than risk technicalities in court.
  
  Not that I buy the fall guy conspiracy, but getting someone, anyone quickly could stop the copycats. They're more worried about him being a trend setter then a repeat offender.
  
  Not the rich, but politicians, police leadership, and DAs.
  They don't want to talk about how murders can go unsolved and crime unpunished in the cities they manage and protect.
  They want to demonstrate that when they show up in force they are able to quickly solve a crime and bring a criminal to justice. One, so they can keep getting elected and two so that others don't think they can get away with committing crimes.
  The DA will want to push a conviction so that they look tough on crime for their political campaigns. Often times withholding evidence that might harm their case.
  I don't know if it happened in this case, but it has happened before where police will railroad a suspect to get a conviction even if there is clear evidence they couldn't have committed the crime.

How insane would it be if he got off due to a technicality. Not holding my breath, but here's hoping.
- Not really that insane. Cops are mostly useless and fuck shit up all the time.
  
  Mostly. Have a look at this chart to see their real impact.
- Alec Baldwin got off because of screw-ups like this. Seems like when there's a high profile case, all the big shots who normally don't do any work all want to jump in and be involved. And then make stupid mistakes because they don't have any real experience because they're normally too important to work a case.
  
  I bet prosecutor fucked up on purpose lol
  Good money to be made when you hook up a guy like that. That's how careers have been made.
- On the flip side, if they illegally discover evidence but can prove an alternative, legal, way it could be discovered it becomes admissible. That's sometimes why they do it.
  
  It has a word too, something like Alternative Reconstruction. I used to know the term.
- Civil rights aren't a technicality. If he 'got off' it would be a victory for everyone who enjoys not being harassed by police.
- It may be a great way for the state to avoid a "not guilty" verdict.
  His getting off a technicality doesn't make it clear he has support.

Really appears like they planted a backpack full of evidence on this innocent person, cops were desperate for a win
- Then botched his 4th Amendment rights and will likely get away with it becuase government needs him in prison for this to make the parasite class happy
  
  Republican judges have been itching to do away with the exclusionary rule. It's not written into the Constitution.
  The 4th prohibits unlawful search and seizure but doesn't specify a remedy. The exceptions practically swallow the rule as it is now; attenuation of the taint, good faith, public safety, independent source, inevitable discovery, to name a few.

The IMPORTANT thing is to KEEP using RANDOM ass UPPERCASE in CLICKBAIT title SENTENCES. That is NOT at ALL irritating.
- SPEAK UP BROTHER, I ONLY HEARD HALF OF WHAT YOU SAID!
  
  WHAT?!
- The most important part is to use MEANINGLESS HYPERBOLE like SLAMMED and EXPLOSIVE
  
  HuMiLiAtEDDD!!!
- Oh SHIT, his lawyer EXPLODED? With all the FEDERAL CUTS to staffing I WONDER, did they still have A JANITOR to clean her GUTS OFF THE WALLS?
- Aunt Sally?
  Did somebody hide your Facebook icon again? Oh, I’m talking about the Internet button that has the blue F on it.

There is zero chance any judge going to exclude the conviction starter package the "police found on him"
You don't go through all of that parallel construction to have it gutted like that.
Trust me bro a guy who shot the parasite CEO decided to carry all of the evidence needed for conviction on him for 5 days 🤡
- Did he, though?
  
  The longer the case goes on the less convinced I am that he was actually the killer. It feels like there's a new "weird" thing about the case every week.
- It's not entirely out of the question, but it does require considerable evidence. It's possible that he carried it so that it wouldn't be left somewhere as evidence, until he could get somewhere that he could safely destroy it.
  That said, there are some pretty gaping holes with that explanation that would need to be filled first.
  
  Any number of thousands of dumpsters between NY and PA would have worked fine.
  
  I am pretty sure I could dispose of a gun in less than 5 days.
- It's entirely possible he's that stupid.

Remember the eye brows on the photos. That is not Luigi in the photos!
- This is such a weird ass conspiracy that even Luigi and his lawyers aren’t denying it’s him, yet people on Lemmy are. Wtf
  
  As far as I know, the lawyers have not confirmed that it is him.
  But in any case, that's beside the point of the "weird ass conspiracy". To spell it out a bit more clearly, the actual idea is that there is "not enough evidence" to convict - because he should not be convicted. (In a jury trial, you cannot just say "guilty, but should be unpunished"; but you can say "not guilty, due to insufficient evidence".)
  
  Its a different person my guy
  
  I really don't care what anyone says, I will not reject the evidence of my eyes and ears. The guy who did the praxis, the guy who was smiling in that security footage, and Luigi Mangione are very clearly three different people.
  
  I trust u bro

Police misconduct allegations could unravel this case—constitutional rights aren't optional.
😺😺😺
- They most definitely are
  Continuing to pray for the Louisiana Supreme Court to all get lung cancer
- BREAKING: We have an unexpected ruling from the United States Supreme Court today. In a 6-3 decision they have ruled... wait this is really it? They have ruled "Hold My Beer."

Please be true

Everyday police overreaching actually is a benefit for a change. Cool.
- Everyday police overreaching actually is a benefit for a change. Cool.
  Broad public support for the killing of a CEO
  Suspect is a Chad
  Most of crime never gets this spicy combo... Gonna be hard to shit on Luigi in court who ALLEGEDLY threw away what is considered peak AMERICA life.
  At this point, most people don't care if he walks even IF HE DID DO IT
  
  At this point, most people don't care if he walks even IF HE DID DO IT
  I'd almost go so far as to say I'm looking forward to the OJ Simpson-esque "If I did it" book in 10 years.

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