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  • That looks more than a little bit like the Mahir Supron FS3 from Cyberpunk 2077.

  • At 4,695 mm long, 1,895 mm wide, and 1,899 mm tall, Kia’s passenger electric van is slightly smaller than the European ID.Buzz model

    So... I'm biased. We've been driving an electric Mercedes Vito for a few years. Got the L3 version with 9 seats (of which I usually don't have 2 in there to have more space in the back). The Kia is almost a meter shorter. I was already anticipating that the buzz would make my car obsolete, but it turned out that instead of a proper van they just released an overpriced lifestyle vehicle with about half the volume of the eqv or the Stellantis van. Now that seems to repeat.

    With a van, I'm looking for utility. Why would I get this one if I could as well grab a > 5.3m van? Even the short eSpacetourer is 4.983m long, illustrating just how oddly small the Kia is. It's obviously a hypothetical argument because I'll probably be happily driving my Vito for the next 10 years at least, but the size alone would be a deal breaker for me.

    • Have an ev, but what I really want is an ev replacement for my ancient honda element. let me haul a few sheets of ply, or bikes, or dogs, or whatever in a compact form.

      Telo MT1 might be it. I don't need hella range for this purpose, just utility.

  • I really want a PHEV Odyssey. The current e-CVT tech on Honda is really good and would be perfect for their van.

    I'm going to test drive the IDBuzz at some point but I can't risk my family in a Kia or Chrysler.

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