4d ago

Veklar, a French social media, apparently aims to protect their users from the Fediverse (?!)

First time I see this, not sure what they mean

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For their use case it makes sense.
They want heightened privacy features like making likes and follows private, which is something that is incompatible with the current state of activitypub.
- You're telling me I brought this pitchfork all the way over here for nothing ?
  
  You can go turn that garden bed over if ya want.

People probably should be more aware that what happens on here is mostly public and also why that's a better alternative to only giving data to private networks run by companies with trade secrets.
Giving data out to everyone prevents an outsized amount of leverage being given to single companies. Facebook doesn't have anywhere near as much kingmaking power if the same methods can be used by competitors or exposed and mitigated for outright.
Being open source, you also can know exactly what the fediverse is collecting and it's currently a fuck load less than the massive data stream companies like Facebook record.

Well, we are an evil and creepy lot, aren't we?
- This will always be Morticia and Gomez Addams in my head.
  
  Is it not?

I don't really feel I need protecting from the Fediverse, more from the "regular" social networks
- Right!?! I'm ok with anarchy, and a non-commercial, non-corporate social media. Not in any need of being protected, whatsoever.
- To play devils advocate though, any "regular social media company" can tap into the fediverse and harvest all of the data and do whatever fucked up things they want to it. The fediverse doesn't protect you from them, it just puts you outside their algorithm control. Though even that is debatable because it is possible that a lot of posters on Lemmy may have first seen the content from algorithm-driven sources.
  
  You're right, but I feel "regular social media companies" can do this on their own networks too, but pretend they don't.

@Blaze@feddit.nl they even made a cute little graphic including some niche softwares, so cute
- Definitely the biggest threats around
  
  @Blaze@feddit.nl oh I see
  Basically they see the Fediverse as a data breach with no actual control over what happen to data the moment it gets to other servers (actually true) and especially if GAFAM gets involved. I mean, I get this they want to stay super-private. But I think that private social networks is a bit naive as an idea

@Blaze aaaaaaaaaah..... La frase es como el forro, pero es una incompatibilidad de principios que se traduce en aspectos técnicos (y una critica fuerte al hecho que Meta y google buscan federar)

@Blaze aaaaaaaaaah..... La frase es como el forro, pero es una incompatibilidad de principios que se traduce en aspectos técnicos (y una critica fuerte al hecho que Meta y google buscan federar)

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