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"You should probably just throw it away"

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Browsing from a 12 year old laptop running Win7 ... what's the issue?
- Malware. All the malware 🪲. That thing better be airgapped.
  
  Please explain how malware would get on my laptop now in a way that it didn't, oh, say, in the last 12 years?
  
  Considering you stopped receiving security updates years ago, any kind of malware developed since then is going to have a field day with you.
  
  That's amazing, it's had years to have its field day. Where is it, please?
  You guys understand you have to actively install malware and viruses, right? It's not like on TV with a skull and crossbones appearing on the monitor.
  
  You're just making yourself a target. People go after low-hanging fruit, and people who haven't had security updates in a decade are top of the list.
  
  Again, how will this happen? This is just technical illiteracy, my friend.
  
  I don't know what the fuck you do on the internet... Are you really trying to suggest people don't get hacked like this? People have lost millions in crypto from shit like that. I know you don't care about crypto or whatever, but it doesn't make the situation less real..
  Some people have things of value on their internet-connected devices. It's just foolish to not stay up to date with security updates.
  
  People. INSTALL. THESE. THINGS. ACTIVELY
  They click on things they shouldn't. I already know I shouldn't. The end.
  Not just from letting the computer run. Explain why I don't have any of these problems with my oh-so vulnerable 12 year old Windows 7 laptop?
  "People have lost millions in crypto from shit like that. " Sources. Links. Explain how it happened. So you're claiming people with Windows 7 computers also have millions in crypto? What?
  
  Honestly not even worth wasting my time. As if there isn't a billion news stories and websites explaining this shit already, and much better than I ever could. It honestly feels super strange even having this conversation in 2025. I guess there will always be people who refuse to understand the tech they use.
  Why are you so aggressive? I get it, you like Windows 7. I liked it too at the time. Take a breath.
  
  "Honestly not even worth wasting my time. "
  ChatGPT, translate!
  "I have no actual evidence, but it feels good to me."
  What's agressive is forcing endless upgrades for no reason. No one can even provide a single source of evidence for these amazing Hollywood viruses besides "everyone knows" or urban legends. You don't even check into what really happens and happily confirm your bias.
  Like I said a million times, you have to purposely run an executable to get these amazing trojans and viruses. Windows 7 doesn't magically pull them out of the ether and runs them with a 24 style countdown timer.
  
  I used WinXP till '19 with no signs of infections. Just extracting the .wim image of the PC was enough to trigger Defender on Win10. It was infected.
  
  That's nice, what does it report? Cookies? PUP?
  
  I got 5-6 reports then stopped extracting the image because I got scared. Mostly PUP and info stealers, maybe 1 trojan.
  
  So nothing at all like the dramatic stuff people have been telling me so far? Hmm, interesting.
- Even JavaScript can infect you.
  Assuming your family does online banking and brokerage you then become a jumping off point for malware.

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