France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone, spy on people

Phones should be turned off or left at home anyways when protesting. Here are my 10 commandments for engaging in protests:

1: never bring your wallet/ID. If you need to buy things, bring cash

2: either shut off your phone or leave it with your wallet. Recording police violence can be useful, in that case get the aclu app, a burner phone with the app, or an action camera

3: never speak to police under any circumstance

4: you can beat the charge but you can't beat the ride

5: bring water, it's more useful than for just drinking

6: bring hats, sunglasses, etc to avoid being identified by the state if it gets violent

7: wear good running shoes

8: know your rights, both federal and local, and when to use them

9: take out any contact lenses in case police use tear gas

10: stay aware of your surroundings; listen to picket line enforcers/community organizers

This is scary because it could be exploited very easily by bad actors and is a huge invasion of privacy

But lawmakers agreed to the bill late Wednesday as Justice Minister Eric Dupond-Moretti insisted the bill would affect only “dozens of cases a year.”

Precisely why it should not be passed! That's not a good reason at all. It's not worth eroding people's rights if it only affects a few cases in my personal opinion. It shows that the law doesn't need to exist in the first place.

WTF Macron? What happened to “Liberté, égalité, fraternité”? This is some “bullshité” if you ask me.

The UK already fell to the multinational capitalist greed machine. Looks like France is falling, too. Any and all means to squash the protest of citizens of the society that might hurt the gdp output of the beloved economy.

Because everyone seems to have forgotten, an economy is supposed to be a tool to better distribute goods and services for the benefit of society. When a society lives in service to, and is harmed for the benefit of the economy, your society is ass backwards.

France and the UK really have gone to hell in a hand basket. Dystopian bullshit. No wonder they are rioting.

Police

What could go wrong?

I don't imagine we're going to see stories in the near future about how the police abuse these powers :/

If they are allowed to do these other countries will follow suit. This is a dangerous precedent in which no one is safe regardless of boarders.

What kind of Orwellian shit is the french government pulling?

I've never been so happy to have the ability to root my phone and flash a new OS onto it. This shit is absolutely insane, I'm surprised there isn't more eyes on this from non-profits globally.

This is the same government that says using an ad blocker, vpn, custom rom, linux and or encrypted messaging service puts you at higher suspicion of being a terrorist.

I see them enacting these policies now as the large number of pro labor protests fighting the government all over the country on pensions “reform”.

Damn France and Macron are really leaning into the authoritarianism lately

The leaders of France seem to forget that their citizens used to make people shorter for less.

Two Months Later: Entire Paris Police Department Is Under Investigation For Cyber-Stalking With Police Spyware

Three Months Later: Paris Police Cyber-Stalking Investigation Of Itself Finds No Wrongdoing Despite Overwhelming Evidence.

I don't actually know if French police investigate themselves, just going off what I know of US police forces.

How do you say "All Cops Are Bastards" in French?

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I brought this up at work and somebody said we sold our soul in the us with the Patriot act.

literally "literally 1984"

What the FUCK? Is there any uncorrupted government left on the planet?

Read the article. Title is clickbait. It's only with approval from a judge. You know, alternatively they could just arrest and imprison the person, which is what every country is doing. Not saying it's without worrying, but there's important nuance that most are missing.

P.S.

Absolute extremist attitudes like "nobody should be able" and so on, have absolutely no place in modern society. There's always nuance. Libertarianism doesn't work, and laws must be enforced. It sucks, but when there are forces that want to hurt people and destabilize societies, you can't go by the rule that everyone is a saint. The world will punish this attitude.

Yes, the world isn't perfect, but for ducks sake, quit sensationalizing anecdotes and representing them as "this always happens". That's dishonest.

Not quite done with the last riot and want a new one it seems.

Dystopian fiction was not supposed to be a guide on what to do.

What the fuck, France.

Modern Tech plus AI - authoritarian regimes can't ever be overthrown.

This is why we need to strip the US gov. of power, before shit like this starts happening (which ik, it kinda already is.)

It bugs me that people will bitch about privacy all day but won't do anything about it. Most people just go

Yeah but you guys still have the guillotines in storage or something though, right? Might be time to dust them off.

Holy fuck, and this is coming from France

Well I guess it time to(( checks notes)) ah keep on Rioting

This has to be at least partly because of the civil unrest. Seems to me like a certain ruling class is getting antsy about Frances past and proclivity to remove noggins...

Hi France. Welcome to the United States.

Can't even jerkoff in peace now without someone watching

Macron has also blamed video games for violence. He has a predilection for consorting with despots and dictators. He really acts like a conservative through and through. Still, at least they are open about what they want to do, unlike other countries that are currently doing the same thing and not really admitting to it.

Did anyone actually read the article or did we all just head straight for the comments section after reading the headline?

I wonder if Apple will make a public statement on this.

How very dystopic. Scary as hell.

The Orbánization of the European right continues.

The NSA did it first

Liberté!

Feel like this is a point of no return regarding a government choosing to side with the elite for the upcoming calamities instead of the people.

Obviously, not a surprising choice, but I’d just think France of all places would at least hesitate a little on such a brazen attack on liberty.

Wasn't "not making this a thing" a point in The Dark Knight?

Is this the law saying to law enforcement that if they were already able to, they're now allowed to? Or is it the law saying to phone manufacturers that they must make it possible?

Fucking yikes. Now this is yet another reason to protest en masse. God speed, French folk.

This world is getting scarier by the day. Sad to watch our freedoms being taken in realtime, and so quickly. Digital currency is the real key. They will shut our money off unless we comply.

During the debate on Wednesday, the members of parliament in the camp of President Emmanuel Macron inserted an amendment limiting the use of remote spying to “when justified by the nature and seriousness of the crime” and “for a strictly proportional duration.” They noted that a judge must approve any use of the provision, while the total duration of the surveillance cannot exceed six months.

They said sensitive professions, including doctors, journalists, lawyers, judges and MPs, would not be legitimate targets.

I don't see any here over whether this is technically possible even if it is allowed -- I suspect not. How is the French warrant process, in general? Do they require probable cause and limited scopes?

3 more months of rioting.

Yeah, that'll quiet down the protests

I guess that's one way to get people to riot harder.

Things like this need to be regulated to the greatest extent

During the debate on Wednesday, the members of parliament in the camp of President Emmanuel Macron inserted an amendment limiting the use of remote spying to “when justified by the nature and seriousness of the crime” and “for a strictly proportional duration.” They noted that a judge must approve any use of the provision, while the total duration of the surveillance cannot exceed six months.

They said sensitive professions, including doctors, journalists, lawyers, judges and MPs, would not be legitimate targets.

Aww ye! Can't wait to get busted because those bouncing boobies shown in the video am enjoying does not follow the "rights of freedom" written by the law #42069. WOO FREEDOM!

I hate when Pandora's box gets opened.

It feels like 1984. _^^

Our leaders have purposefully failed us. We all need to break out the guillotines.

But waddaboud China?!!!???&(*&^$%? /s

How would they technically implement this?

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Hasn't France traditionally been on the pro personal liberties side?

Tin foil sales about to rise?

I'm sure this will go well and will never be abused. I mean, good that doctors, attorneys and MPs are exempt, because fuck the everyman Joe worker. /s

Who looked at the patriot act and thought that was a good idea?

What? France? And they're not out burning cars over this?

I’d love to know how this would work from a technical perspective, say on an iPhone. I can’t imagine apple implementing that sort of functionality for them

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Is this news being posted every hour or so?

If they ever convince the manufacturer to enable these features, it’s time to leave that manufacturer

Passing laws that violate peoples privacy should only be passed by a vote from the people. This is bullshit

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