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Tribler - Is it any good? If not, is there anything as private as Tor for torrents?

I am not in a place where I can afford a VPN (do not start suggesting cheap VPNs to me istg), and in addition, you have to place a lot of trust in the VPN. Tribler seems promising, except... For the giant disclaimer that's been on the site for years. That worries me. I am quite worried about getting scary letters from my ISP or something when torrenting.

Do not put yourself in danger. Our anonymity is not yet mature.

Tribler does not protect you against spooks and government agencies. We are a torrent client and aim to protect you against lawyer-based attacks and censorship. With help from many volunteers we are continuously evolving and improving.

Edit: Seems like there are a lot of issues below the surface as well... https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/19118584/10120234

And Lokinet, I2P, and GNUnet have their own massive problems... https://comment.ctrl.blog/discussion/tribler-onion-routed-bittorrent

ngl, kinda depressing that it's like this...

Edit 2: I misread the article a bit, it's not quite as dire as I thought it was initially, but the warning and the fact that only the core file-transferring features are anonymized at all... Is a bit disconcerting.

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  • Torrenting on the TOR network is actively discouraged. It uses a lot of bandwidth, and it hurts other people's speeds.

    If you want to torrent on an anonymous network, use I2P. It may be harder to set up than TOR, but you can torrent entirely inside it. It has trackers inside, and a lot of clearnet torrents have also been listed on them. And most importantly, I2P is more prepared for torrenting than TOR is. When you connect to it, you add capacity to the network, so using bandwidth for torrenting is not as detrimental to it.

    • Tribler is not Tor, and I know Tor doesn't work. That's why I asked if there's anything like Tor rather than just doing the stupid thing of using Tor immediately. I'll look into I2P.

  • i2p is the only tor for torrents I know of. a program i2psnark that comes with the java-version preinstalled specifically. You need to follow their setup instructions closely to get a functioning i2p you can interact with using a http-proxy setting in your web-browser.

    I2P can only talk to other I2P users. There are far from enough users on it to reliably use it for P2P. There’s nothing inherently wrong with it, it just never reached critical mass. The set-up process is probably too complicated for most potential users.

    • So the massive i2p problem is its unpopular.

    This is a bit of the chicken and egg problem. Has anyone here experience using or seeding i2p torrents? I would be interested in for example seeding Linux iso. I set it up

    My 2cents how to seed :

    then you can use i2psnark/Create a torrent in the web interface, and type the file-name of the file you want to seed over i2psnark. on Linux for me its in in /var/lib/i2p/.i2p/i2psnark

    But sharing over it is another matter; you need a tracker for that, like postman, or the other one I have not tested yet.

  • I use Deluge. It can be used with i2p or tor, and can be set up to route everything through your local proxy.

  • In many cases, you have to disable the privacy setting (hops) to be able to download anything. Probably because it still hasn't attracted a lot of users.

    They switched from a client application to a web interface in a recent update, which I'm not a fan of (mainly because I'm blocking right click hijacking in my browser).

    It's nice to add an extra layer of security, imo, but I wouldn't rely on it completely if you're in one of those countries where ISPs don't respect your privacy.

  • Try Tailscale for torrenting and Orbot for day-to-day use.

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