Phasers set to "Bitch please"

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Kirk made out with Uhura on prime time network television. Proportional to that time, it was probably the wokest thing ever.

That's what bothers me for a long time now and I'm glad I'm not alone: I like the stories but a black woman on the bridge? Really? But it's ok, she was born in Africa so she's not necessarily a former slave. What bothers me more is a later development: A Russian on a supposedly American ship! Even if it's not explicitly American, there are Americans on the bridge and they sure as hell won't serve with a Russian! What do they think? The cold war is over? But I have great hope in the planned new series. I hope the Next Generation won't be that woke.

Sounds like they were never a Trekkie to begin with.

OG startrek was probably the "wokest" thing on TV in the sixties. And a bunch of grouchy old men that no one cared about bitched about it back then too.

As a rather left leaning Person I have no problem with New Trek beeing "woke" in general.

I fucking hate Discovery, to a point that I had to give up on it after season 3. Picards first 2 season where almost as bad (I like the third season, more or less).

The problem is not so much the wokeness of those series, it's that it's just bad storytelling.

The way how "woke" ideas are implemented just feels like pandering to the audience. Homosexualyity, Non Binary characters, enviromentalism... I approve representation for all of those and would have loved to see them integrated in a meaningfull way. But the way they were handled it felt wrong to me, as if they were forced into the story rather than emerging from it organicly.

Edit: I have since I posed this done some reading. While I still stand by this, I do see how Queer topic at least been handled with respect in Discovery. Still embeded in a badly told story, but hey, it's something and I see how that is not nothing.

The same people would be upset to learn that Rage Against the Machine is politically charged and not just nonsense you can bop your head to.

I don't care what anyone thinks.

I'm really enjoying the new series, and if you don't like them, turn them off and watch something else. You can let people enjoy things.

The problem is that most modern trek TV shows have terrible writing. I tried so hard to like discovery

Cool, never seen a gold colored Enterprise before.

Hides in corner....only having watched lower decks and afraid to understand the rest of ST as a SWs fan...

Anybody ever watch Earth Space Dock zone chat in STO? I last visited around the time Trump was materializing as an actual possibility as a presidential candidate. The toxicity put r/thedonald to shame.

TNG was woke, and DS9 was dark. What star trek is has always been.

Set phasers to .... Stun

And Personal Computer?

You don't really think there's some sort of rivalry, do you? Generally, if you're a fan of aliens and space ships in your fiction, you'll probably enjoy both Star Wars and Trek.

Who knew a scarecrow argument could bring about such a spicy thread.

Cool ship

Cope, seethe, dilate. New Trek sucks. And not just cause it openly takes one side in every cultural dispute but because it's uninspired and generic. Ooooh, green evil alien lady! We eat our own shit lol! Gene the scum cleaner! Non-binary ghosts! Jan 6 caused WWIII!