Should we completely ban advertising links in this community?

Yes - We should ban these

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I don't think it should be allowed in titles, watermarks, comments etc but I don't see a problem with it being on someone's profile so long as it's not in the community. Just my opinion 🤷🏻‍♀️ Although, I was banned from reddit gw for having redgifs (which some subs require you to post with) and lemmy linked on my profile. Kind of silly since I asked if it was okay and was told I could continue posting, only for them to change their mind a couple days later.

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Yeah that's what I don't want to happen here, there have been a LOT of reports lately from a few users mentioning Rule 7 being broken for this sub.
I've largely ignored them, because I know we're been quite lenient about that rule in the past.

The rule does say that they shouldn't be allowed at all, so that's the reasoning, but I don't want to suddenly remove a ton of content that is otherwise well-accepted. 👍

There is something to say for you being active here though :) - there are other OF users who don't engage or comment on Lemmy, which becomes a problem when these "bot users" posts their OF adverts across multiple communities at the same time, and doesn't do anything else (comment, etc).

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Yeah, ban them. I want people to post because they want to, not because they are advertising. Makes the posts more genuine as well.

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- I don't see a problem with it if it's in your bio because if I'm really interested in the person, then I would at least click their profile to see their other posts.
  
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There will be no incentive, it should be limited but not outright banned

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Advertising, in my opinion, goes against the spirit of gone wild. I have no problem with OF as a platform, but I’d like to think gone wild is more spontaneous. Just my two cents. If people are that interested, they’ll click into the profile and find plenty an OF link.

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No.

The best content creators here have OF accounts. They need to eat too. Close them off and this place will slow to a crawl.

This is a self-defeating move.

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Are people seriously getting mad at women for giving them free content and suggesting you can support them if you like it and want to see more?

This place will die without sex workers.

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yes, yes they are 😆

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While I agree that this place is too small to survive without them, for me knowing that every post and interaction on here it's just an ad to make me pay takes out a lot of the fun

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- Nobody is asking you to pay or to click on the links. Down vote (if you care so much) or simply move on.
  
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The first thing I do anytime a new poster posts OC is check their profile to see what they have there because it affects the nature of the relationship they are looking for here. In my opinion, if you are selling your content in any form then you have not 'gonewild.'

The spirit of the original sub was to allow a space for exhibitionism. When you allow it to be used as a vector for advertising then it will unfortunately devolve into the low effort posts that we've begun to see with a high amount of frequency lately. I don't think a full ban on advertising will be healthy for the community with as small as it is at the moment, but there need to be some checks put in place at the least.

I agree that all links in post titles, descriptions, and comments should not be allowed, but it should be okay for them to be in a users profile if someone chooses to seek that out. I think there should also be a harder stance taken on low effort engagement baits and OC posts where it's clear the person themselves are not the one managing the accounts.

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Would probably kill off a good 50% of posts. So no.

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I'm 100% OK with OF creators posting but they should keep the links in their profile. The flood of posts with subscription links are annoying.

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Right - Profile is something a user affirmatively seeks out. Posts are part of the feed, so post links are more readily defined as spam. But profile links should be fine, and frankly I think it is most compatible with a sex-positive attitude that isn't morally opposed to these people making money on OF.

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If OF subscribers and mods decide they want advertising, they should remove Rule 7. Until then, it should be banned, as that's the consensus. No one seems to have a problem with links in profiles, however.

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Not sure why it matters. Ignore the links and don't click them if you don't want to. They're still posting content, why did it actually matter other than some moral high ground for "pure" content or whatever you want to tell yourself.

As long as it isn't copy pasted from some professional site and is at least the person posting their own stuff, I don't care what their reasoning behind posting is.

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For me a definitive yes on banning, as it's the most interesting aspect of r/gonewild. I really don't mind people advertising their OF on any other sub (realgirls, etc etc etc), but I do like that gonewild is unique in that respect.

The only concern would be if the content disappears from this community, as it's still growing.

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Literally the only reason I follow this community (and the predecessor on reddit) is because it's supposed to be free of advertisement. Just exhibitionism for the sake of it.

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The spirit of the original GW rules was to limit the sub to true amateur exhibitionists, so the community knew that anyone posting there was doing it for the fun of showing off. Allowing anyone who does it for money creates ambiguity if the post is for fun or advertising, and I feel that’s a negative.

I generally feel people who share good quality content and engage with communities are welcome, just not in gonewild or nofans which is by nature a seller-free space.

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- that’s true— I was referring to reddit gonewild, whose name may have referenced the girls gone wild video series but who started from the beginning as an amateur exhibitionist space for Reddit karma rather than money.
  
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Reddita basically just an OF Advert posting board now, so I guess we should have some controls on it if you don't want that happening here.

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Allow in comments (?)

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There are some awesome creators on here who have been great for the community, they regularly engage with users, post great original content, and I think it's fair that they want to sell their services and support themselves. I'm not opposed at all to links in their bios.

The last week or so has had a deluge of low quality posters and frankly it does not spark joy to browse my feed. I don't even trust that these posters are who they say they are -- the titles and bios are basically all the exact same format with the same emojis in the same places, and sentence the structure that's filled in with a basic form/script, and their post titles feel optimized to shit and lifted from other platforms.

I think additional verification for promoted content is required.

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Unless you are a moderator of a communit(ies), it's very easy to simply block off accounts you don't want to see, especially if you yourself know how to detect authentic posters vs "low quality posters".

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Yes yes 1000 times yes

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Confine that garbage to an onlyfansgirls channel and keep the real girls here.

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Probably ban links in posts/comments, but not on profiles. I think that's a good in between stance that will keep this comm's vibe while not driving away literally all the content.

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No - they should be allowed in post description/body

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Hell yes please. Keep it in the profiles.

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If you share quality content here, you should be able to include a link to your OF for those that want more. What I think is not ok is low effort, teaser posts with an OF link. They do not add value to the community. Want to link your OF? Make sure to contribute some OC. No reposts!.

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And that is what this all turns into if we allow links in posts.

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Yes ban, having it on your profile is good enough

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They can put the promo on their profile, I say ban em

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Links in profiles should be fine, but not directly in posts. If a user likes the content and clicks through to the profile to see more, they can find the link there. But keep subscription links out of peoples’ Home feeds.

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Yes, please. This community is unuasble in its current state. Alternatively requiring onlyfans type posts to disclose that in the title would make it easier to avoid/filter those posts for users that dont want them.

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If there is a full ban then I think we relegate ourselves to either just getting reposts from other sites or having a tiny amount of posts. I’d like to see some restriction, but I think a full ban is too much.

Allowing links in comments but not posts sounds about right to me. But I’m open to other proposals.

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This is a concern of mine, there are a lot of high-voted posts here that contains these "banned" links that I'd be removing if I listened to every content report. I also don't want the content quality to drop to the point that we're primarily re-posting OF advertisements.

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- Start a transition plan, give a timeline and enforce a cutoff date. Keep it in the profiles. I personally downvote every post I see with s link in it.
  
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- Youre asking for a content quality drop with that ban, when what few people who do post here abandon the sinking ship
  
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You already barely have any content.

Are you stupid enough to try and suffocate the people giving you content?

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Are you suggesting users posting the same suggestive pic/gif to 20 subs are providing meaningful content?

Promo-content easily suffocates real OC.

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- It baffles me that people don't see this. When you allow a place to be used as the equivalent of a newspaper classified then that's all it's going to be. It actively dissuades any non-commercial posts.
  
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Would they still be able to ask for private messages?

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Well, currently the rule is "no pestering for off-site contact" so yes - DM requests should be ok as long as it's above-board.

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It's generally fine with me if some of our posters are able to sell elsewhere what they share here for free. What I'd ask is that content be presented non-commercially, as if trying to appeal primarily to viewers who aren't potential customers.

I vote for strict enforcement against advertising in titles, post texts, and unsolicited comments. Allowable in user profile.

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Yes

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Ban them.

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Yes - these kinds of subs on Reddit didn’t and OF ads basically became their only content overnight.

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Links in profiles should be fine. It is nice to be able to see those if you need while allowing the large number of posts they provide. I think that is the best solution. Even if someone is selling nudes doesn't mean they don't enjoy showing them.

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Yes, no advertising links

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Yes please

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a plug for your onlyfans in the post title or description should be alright

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