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Trump administration reportedly considers a US DeepSeek ban | TechCrunch

techcrunch.com Trump administration reportedly considers a US DeepSeek ban | TechCrunch

The Trump administration is considering barring Americans from accessing AI models created by the Chinese AI lab, DeepSeek.

The Trump administration is considering new restrictions on the Chinese AI lab DeepSeek that would limit it from buying Nvidia’s AI chips and potentially bar Americans from accessing its AI services, The New York Times reported on Wednesday.

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Reportedly, they've built a ton of extra AI datacenters they don't even use. I thought they were just misappropriating government funds, but maybe that was an intelligent strategy. I wonder if that's enough to bridge the gap until they have their own silicon in mass production.
- I don't think this is the case at all. You can't build AI data centers en masse ghat quickly
  
  What do you mean? The Chinese are known for government-coordinated megaprojects... They regularly build entire city districts pretty much over night. And it's not really quick... They've been at it since almost 20 years. And I believe in 2016 they released their national 15-year plan to ramp up power plants and AI in order to become the global AI leader by 2030.
  We can see how in the times before AI, they were able to build large Bitcoin farms quickly (before they banned it) and by today, their AI industry publishes quite some models, papers... So I don't really see a reason to question this. Or is there anything I've missed?
  https://www.techradar.com/pro/china-has-spent-billions-of-dollars-building-far-too-many-data-centers-for-ai-and-compute-could-it-lead-to-a-huge-market-crash
  https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/chinas-ai-data-center-boom-goes-bust-rush-leaves-billions-of-dollars-in-idle-infrastructure
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence_industry_in_China
  
  It's not about the building. It's about planning out the electrical grid to support hundreds of megawatts - for every single campus. They consume more power than everything else. 24/7.
  Along with liquid cooling, which is mandatory now for an 'AI data center'. Air cooling cant cool that much power.
  Buildings with less power are just regular data centers, not AI centered.

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