'Did I Miss Something?': Online Shoppers Shocked as Trump Tariffs Jack Up Prices 145%
Temu and Shein customers are facing high prices and dwindling choices.
"Did I miss something?"
No, you intentionally avoided listening to what we were telling you.
I’m not totally convinced that a huge swath of trump voters ever heard any alternatives to the propaganda that lead them to believe tariffs=good. Like i imagine a ton of them are structurally isolated from hearing alternatives the way social media and television works
Yes. They missed the part where they specifically and repeatedly said they were going to do this. Because American voters evidently have the cognitive skills of a fucking sea sponge.
A sea sponge at least absorbs something.
It also doesn't fuck up life for everyone else on the planet, which is a boon.
My sister voted for Trump, only learned after the fact, because of "the inflation" so I asked her how she tough the tariffs would help on that. Her answer? "What do you mean, what are tariffs?" A little too late I send her a youtube video about Tariffs and Trump and she was like wtf. She lives in California, so it's not like she helped him win, but I'm going to keep a tab on her before elections.
its low information voters that mostly voted for him besides the incels/joe roegan people.
Hey, man, don't insult the sea sponge.
SpongeBob.
Donald J Trump is a liar, rapist, cheat and a lousy business man that has failed every single business, and Americans voted in this useless excuse for a human being to enforce facism, racism, and colonialism. Well done America.
You forgot sexism. There's a non-zero amount of people who simply will never vote for a woman.
He bankrupted a casino.
A FUCKING CASINO!
That's like bankrupting a money printer.
He will probably manage to that too soon.
Multiple casinos.
I honestly hate that I know so much about this sad excuse for a human.
The Feds were on the trail of the Russian dirty money being laundered through it.
6 times bankruptcy! He’s so bad that after the last one, no western bank would work with him at all. That’s when he went to Russian oligarchs for cashflow, and the rest is history…
if trump had invested in a index fund of his inheritence he would be close to 100bn richer. now hes just prostituting to whoever is richer to give him some money.
6 times bankrupt, bankrupt casinos, 34 felony convictions, WWE Superstar, known Russian agent, coup leader, the list is extensive...but he was on TV a lot. He's perfect. I want him.
Twice.
and actively worked with russia since the 80s to undermine the USA.
It's only just begun. Wait until there are empty shelves at Wal-Mart. MAGA is going to have to work overtime to blame it on Biden.
It's not hard work. They just blame Biden. When you're lying, and everyone knows you're lying, then there's no reason to put effort into the lie. If that doesn't catch on, they'll blame someone else. Zelensky or Xi, or they can always Blame Canada.
The local shipping port was empty yesterday. The last time I saw it that empty was during covid. It is genuinely frightening.
Hehe but there's no freight.
Doesn't matter who they blame.. blame won't fill the shelves.
walmart, the magats go-to for stores.
One mistake Temu is making is showing it as "Import fees". That's correct of course, but they should label it specifically as "Import tariffs" or "Tariffs", so that it's clear what this is. From the comments in the linked reddit threads, a lot of people just think they're extra fees Temu is voluntarily putting on as retaliation, their brains still aren't making the link between "import fees" and "trump's tariffs on China".
There are some brave businesses around here that have started posting signs.
"Due to tariffs, we've had to raise our prices."
I'm in the Deep South, I bet by end of week I see a place charging "Fuck China" surcharges.
Digikey an electronics parts site has it listed on their stuff now.
Same with Mouser. They have for a few weeks now.
import tax
"Trump Tariff"
I wish I was in a place were I had no idea what was going on. I'm just twitching when I think about Republicans sending people to concentration camps with out charges or trial. That just means everyone is just sheep to be plucked. We are now just living on luck.
federal despotism
Did I miss something?
Jesus fucking Christ yes
Nooo, not the fascist i'm voting for... There must be something else i'm missing
Can confirm - I track grocery prices every week and the cumulative "Biden inflation" was about 17% over 4 years, or about 4% per year average. Last week was already a 15% yoy increase, and some stuff is legitimately 100% yoy already.
and some stuff is legitimately 100% yoy already.
It's 100% day over day -- or rather, 145% or even 170% day over day -- because that's what happens when you apply a 145 or 170% tariff to it!
A Lemmy post about an article about a Reddit post. The internet feels more and more incestuous every day.
I responded to a question on Reddit that I am knowledgeable of to make an educated guess. Then, it turns out OP is a journalist and asked me if he could quote me. But I declined because even though I know the topic well enough, I am not an expert and don't have the credentials to show for. I mean, I could have allowed OP to quote me and feed my ego, but I don't want to sow misinformation if I am wrong. And besides, being quoted with my then strange username will make the article strange.
Yeah, journalism is getting lazier and lazier.
I realized journalism was truly dead a few years back when I noticed that most news articles online are just a bunch of Twitter posts talking about the headline. I fantasize about writing a movie where Edward R. Murrow comes back from the dead as a demon and just goes around slaughtering lazy journalists, which forces other journalists to actually do their fucking jobs.
Journalism is dead because Sinclair has been gobbling up local news.
Check to see who your local news outlet is - several of mine are owned by like Missouri’s retirement fund or something.
What people in the US also need to realize is, that the rest of the world still enjoys more or less unchanged prices on these sites. It is only the US that has put tarrifs on them and it has only affected the American consumers
On the other hand, American products are getting more expensive everywhere else, because of the retaliational tarrifs by the usa.
So it is a double edged sword, but the US is holding it by it's blade! With both hands!
was an article that EU is gonna get flooded by super cheap items now, china will sell at a loss. that is gonna take shares from US items even more, and US items was already overpriced and gonna become even more expensive.
its like triple loss for US. they need to lower US wages if they want be able to compete.
The US is screaming and holding a hot pan fresh out of the oven, but refusing to just set it down and use the fucking oven mits next time.
Meanwhile, other countries are watching this happen, but somehow having a relatively difficult time deciding if they maybe want to give it a try with their own government.
Until sellers start jacking prices up elsewhere in the world to make up for lost revenue from the American market
The American market is a massive part of some companies yes. But most companies only have a small percentage of revenue in the US.
Listen.. the US is just one country. Its a big one and one that buys a lot. But still one country. Many companies can compensate the loss of that market by exploring the many other markets that they have down played. Furthermore, the availability of products that would have gone to the US may even make it cheaper to make and sell products everywhere else than in the US
That would be akin to death by sudoku
(Yes, I know it’s seppuku)
Is this "nottheonion"? I cant believe that people are so oblivious.
"Did Biden drop out" was trending on Google on election day. We're cooked.
The onion endorsed Dark Brandon after he dropped
Every person's media bubble is tuned to them. If they're disinterested in politics their algorithm will steer them right away from all the troubles that were abundantly aware of.
And if they’re into politics, it will be a bubble as well. Not even left/right. It’s a bubble of your specific flavor of politics/humor. Because also political discussion and humor go hand in hand now at all times, apparently.
This is an inevitable (and was preventable) result of a two party system, unless someone is "into" politics they are trained to tune out.
“I haven’t been keeping up with news or what’s going on?!?! I have been ordering a lot this past month for my daughters wedding.. did I miss something???”
I mean Jesus TapDancing Christ. You've not been aware of who the president is and what he is doing??? It's not like tariffs haven't been in the news at all. They (along with illegal renditions and other attacks on civil liberties) have been dominating the news cycles since January. I have never been one to ignore news, so even if quite busy with something in life I read headlines at the very least. It confounds me to know some folks ignore news willfully. Some even think of it like it's some twisted badge of honor.
I know head-in-sand people exist, but I am dismayed, baffled and extremely disappointed that they still behave the same when the house is burning down around them. Especially when this ignorance is obviously present in a large block of people in the US.
Please wake the hell up everyone, the house is on fire! (I know I am preaching [venting] to the choir in this venue.)
"Oh I don't pay attention to politics."
Guess what, politics pays fucking attention to you
politics pays fucking attention to you
What was that bullshit propaganda catch-phrase the right-wingers were spewing a while back, to bitch and moan that their abhorrent "values" of bigotry and hate were "under attack?" Oh yeah: "You Will Be Made to Care."
As always, yet fucking again, it was pure projection.
I’ve tried to severely limit my intake since the election and just taken in enough info to have a foundation for context, I don’t need to see 400 alliterations of some doom and gloom headline, but yes, even in this fairly limited scope I’m WELL aware of the tariffs. It’s absolutely willful to be this tuned out
Completely understandable to limit info for mental health reasons and I sometimes feel the same. This isn't that obviously.
Are you really that surprised? I regularly see people even on Lemmy talking about how much they wish they could disconnect from everything going on and live a quiet peaceful life in the country. That's essentially what all these people have chosen; they have decided the world is too scary for them and they don't want to process it anymore. Things will continue to get worse for them, and they won't have any idea why.
Hopefully this is a wakeup call for the folks who don't vote because they think that both parties are the same.
Others were posting about possible workarounds, including the idea that perhaps Americans could get things shipped to a third country with lower tariffs as a go-between so that the goods didn’t appear like they were actually coming from China.
Truly maximizing global shipping efficiency...
Sadly and logically, this is transshipment and if done to evade taxes by obfuscating place of origin, it is illegal. From what I heard, US customs does investigate that too, so it's not just an "illegal in theory but nobody enforces it" kind of thing.
dint the trump admin said something about that already, trying to bypass and they will know where its come from.
145% isn't even accurate because that's just on the cost of the good. You then have to figure in retailer margin, seller margin etc. Most MSRPs will be 300% of what they were to keep those the same as before.
Not really. If they keep the same % based on what it costs them, then it should increase by the same amount.
If they instead get the same amount (which would effectively mean reduce their margins) the final cost would be a bit less.
Happy to be corrected with some numerical example.
So if you see any price increase greater than the tariff amount, it's plain corporate greed.
Less if anything.
You buy something from China for $100. Add packing, staff costs and delivery and you sell it retail for say $200. A nice healthy profit margin.
Now you add the 145%, so it costs $245 from China. None of the rest of it will cost you more. Still an extra $100, for $345 total.
The retail customer pays an extra (345/200=) 72.5% instead.
It's a lot, but not 145%.
So if your retail price goes up by 145% or more, they either weren't making a lot of profit before, or they're greedy bastards.
BS If an item costs an extra $100 to put on a shelf, the retailer will still want to cover the costs of obtaining and spending that $100. No-one is going to use funds commercially, for free. WTF do you think retailers will be good keeping the same profit, numerically, whilst spending 145% more for it?
Wait until you see the price of groceries in a few short weeks because no one is around to do the processing. Fuck toilet paper shortages and being locked in your home all day because complete incompetence, we had to go for round two of how Trump is going to tap dance around super hard stuff.
Okay Republicans. Do something other than screaming about it's all unfair. Do something other than pointing at people and screaming hate. Do something or this thing you have complete control of isn't going to have food in about three months.
"we've shut down the entire mechanism of government and it's still not working and we're all out of ideas!"
"ok, time to blame our shocking lack of competence on a vulnerable group we can stoke xenophobia against!"
Every time Republicans have had control in my lifetime they have fucked up the economy and made life harder for Americans.
The fact that Americans keep electing them is proof that this country is in steep decline and will continue to be so.
If you're gonna be dumb, then you got to be tough
I will never tire of reading articles like this. It's like the nectar of the gods to me.
You didn't miss anything, you're just getting what you voted for.
Last week, Trump went so far as to claim that Chinese President Xi Jinping had called the White House to negotiate a deal, another claim that Chinese officials deny.
How hard would it be to prank him by spoofing caller ID and pretending to be Xi?
You don't have to spoof it. The fucking idiot answers unknown numbers.
"We've been trying to reach you about your clown-cars extended warranty"
Oh no! I guess they'll have to get their cheap Chinese knock-off crap from Good American Sources.
Seriously though, even if the tariffs were reduced pre-loony-President levels tomorrow, no-one's gonna trust that being permanent.
Good american sources
Yeah... About that...
At good American local prices. Hey, can't pay the workers any less so I guess product prices have to go up at the source. Oh wellll.
Actually with this really cheap Chinese stuff it will often still be cheaper than another source.
Oh? Well that's ok then :)
It's gonna go into empty shelves - then he's gonna cancel it.
Sup bitches this is that MAGA you ordered.
100% guaranteed these people are of two kinds: Trump voters and Conservative Libertarians
There are many articles on this, and even a book or two. Anyway, I thought you'd get a kick out of it. True fucking story man. Fucking libertarians. 🤦🏻♀️
Yeah chief, there was an election last November. Should have been paying attention.
I guess Democracy is allowing voters to shoot themselves in the foot an then letting them wonder what happened.
This is how it ends.
Cambridge Analytica is the reason we're in this mess. It's the actual Deep State the Republicans were pointing fingers about
Found the fucking idiots who couldn't be bothered to vote for Kamala.
Or that voted for donvict because "R".
Retirement vanishing, social services being cut, tariffs destroying global trust and economy... It's ok. It's ok. Because Donald Trump doesn't laugh. Kamala had a weird laugh. That would've been the end of us.
Ignorance knows no bounds 🙄
i hope every fucking 3rd party voter has to choose between rent and eating along with all the pridefully ignorant bumblefuck maga knuckledraggers
edit: LOL i love how the "vOtE 3rD pArTy!!!!" chuds have literally nothing to say anymore--can only downvote.
"i DoNt WaNnA vOtE fOr GeNoCiDe!!!!"
great job, fucko. now we have genocide in gaza AND in america
enjoy your fucking tariffs. and if you're less than 100% white/male/straight/evangelical/republican, then enjoy all the things that go along with being "other" in a fascist state (hint: fucking genocide)
LOL i love how the “vOtE 3rD pArTy!!!” chuds have literally nothing to say anymore–can only downvote.
It's equal parts hilarious and crushingly depressing. Every time I call out dipshit losers who didn't vote or voted 3rd party, I get a slew of downvotes from said losers, but never a reply. They know they're world class idiots, so all they can really do is downvote you.
Thing is, they'll do the same thing again next time around because they're not very smart and honestly believe "voting with their conscience" is more intelligent than voting for the candidate CLOSEST to their ideals that can ACTUALLY win, and, in some cases, prevent a MOTHERFUCKING AUTHORITARIAN from assuming power and crashing our economy and shitting on our Constitution, among other things.
Fun Fact: The 3rd party candidate with the most votes was magician Jill Stein, who magically appears right before every election, then magically disappears again afterward. She managed to nab a whole HALF OF A SINGLE PERCENT of the total votes cast. So there's your proof that anyone voting 3rd party is a goddamn idiot.
I'll say this once for those in the back. A 3rd party candidate cannot win, because no 3rd party has put in the work to get representatives elected in local/state elections, so they could eventually have ANY PRESENCE AT ALL in the House and Senate, so they'd actually have a chance to win a presidency. Lol, even if they somehow magically got a president in office, they would have NO ALLIES in either chamber of Congress to help them achieve their agenda.
Downvote me. They usually hurt my feelings, but the ones I get from dipshit loser non-voters and 3rd party voters enhance my libido.
10 years ago i was a lot dumber. i'm the first to admit: i voted jill stein because i didn't care for hillary, but she was going to win. trump was a laughingstock joke even back then, and the polls and the hype around hillary bamboozled me. not that my vote would have changed it, but clearly a lot of people thought the same
that's when i learned my fucking lesson about voting 3rd party. never. again.
"I know I support the murder of you and your people. But I'm still going to need you to vote for me, so that I can preserve democracy and the economy. You may not live to see it, but the rest of us will really appreciate it."
I know some choices are hard, but my parents aren't around to make them for me anymore, and voting takes so much effort. It doesn't really matter anyway, both sides are exactly the same. I'll just not vote and whomever wins, wins. This is America, I've got inalienable rights, so it won't get that bad.
Gonna be honest with you. I care way more about the nation I live in and its democracy and my human rights and the human rights of the ones I love than I do about two nations on the other side of the planet continuing a fucking holy war that's been going on all my life.
Apparently you do not.
P.S. Gaza is worse off under Trump. And he made it clear that would be the case before the election.
Yah, you missed an election
See. When countries rely on tariffs to protect local manufacturers - there should be way way way better social system in place and laws protecting working class. Because we are the ones in this case allowing this ineffective manufacturing to exist by paying tariffs