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Let's put an end to the discussion; what is the best way?

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Twist and tuck baby
- I want some scientific research into this, because I believe the twist and tuck is as good as any other method of sealing the bag, and it's faster and requires no accessories, clips, or tools.
  
  I take umbrage with this meme's characterization of the twist and tuck as chaotic. It's literally the fastest and easiest method without compromising freshness
  
  There is a minor downside: If anyone carelessly moves said bread bag, it can come untwisted, untucked, or both.
  But yeah, I'm on team twist and tuck. (Although, since I live with other people, I normally just continue the method currently in place.)
- We're talking about bread... Not balls.
  /s

I have never in my entire life seen an actual bread box, I thought they were a thing from England or something
- My grandma used one. Personally I think the real function was to keep mice from eating your bread, but that hasn't been a problem for a long time.
  
  https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/did-you-know-history/did-you-know-breadboxes-really-did-help-keep-bread-fresh
  
  that hasn't been a problem for a long time.
  Mice are still a thing, dude.
- Same, my mom said I should get one when I moved out but we didn't even have one at home?? 😭
  
  She probably is just afraid you will leave the bag open and then eat moldy bread.
- How else to store real bread?
  So not just the sandwich/toast bread, that comes in plastic bags, but real bread, with a crust and in plastic wrap it would lose its crust, but without any protection, it dries out.
  It's a delicate balance act, where paper and a bread box seem to work best
  
  I think most people just leave it in the plastic bag, but personally I have a bread bag that breathes so the crust doesn't become spongey
- English here. Anyone I know with a bread box use it in combination with one of the others. I have one, so we’re Bread Box + Twist and Tuck.
- They're pretty common here in Sweden, at least in my experience.
- My grandma had one. Growing up we just kept our bread & bagels in the microwave.
  
  Gf does this with baked goods. It's awful for me because I microwave a lot and don't always remember to put stuff back and it gets stale.

Twist and tuck all day erre'day
- All day until I started steady living with a woman. The twist tie or whatever must be attached at all times.
  Many years later we got a cheap plastic bread box and I gotta say it's awesome. You can twist and tuck and the bread stays good even longer.

The box being "good" is wild. That is where bread goes stale unseen and uneaten. Its gotta be near the top of pointless kitchen things that only people with more money then sense have.
- A bread box can be good for packing bread or sandwiches that you want to protect from being squished, like when camping for example.
  
  That is not a bread box, more of a travel bread case. I use one for eggs and bread stuff when camping as well. But this... thing is a counter bound thing that is heavy and artsy.

What in the world is the bottle hack
- Cutting off the top of a bottle and jamming the bag through the lid to seal it.
  
  That sounds chaotic evil to me tbh
- You cut the head off a bottle so you have the screwy-bit. Then you pull the open end through the bottle-Head and screw the lid on.
  
  Hmmmmmmmmmm microplastics in my bread

I twist and fold inside out:
- Still chaotic neutral, IMO

This is not bread mate
- It's legally cake?

I either reuse the clip or twist and tuck it if there's no clip. I don't understand why I'd use extra stuff for this like my own clips or rubber bands
- I'm with you, either lawful or chaotic neutral is the way. Everyone else is trying to hard or not trying hard enough.

Always eat the entire loaf in one sitting.

I learned how to do this and never went back.

I do both lawful neutral and chaotic neutral at once. Am I paranoid?

What if I keep my bread in the fridge?
- Get out. Your kind isn't welcome here.
- I started doing this and have never looked back. We also keep the next loaf in the freezer, so we always have bread.
  
  I have a queue: one loaf at the front gets stored on the counter, the next two loaves are in the fridge (generally replenished from the store, so most bread goes through my place unfrozen), then any others in the freezer.
  I toast most bread I eat and find the difference between kept in fridge and not is unnoticeable.
  I do similar with hot dog and hamburger buns, though they don't have a counter space due to being used less frequently.
  Haven't had to throw out moldy bread nearly as much since I started doing that.
- Then you are just doing it wrong. Bread goes stale faster in the fridge due to easier crystallization
  
  I live somewhere extremely humid. Even potato chips can start going bad in a day here.

Could you repeat in baguette, please?

I feel like this alignment chart doesn't consider how evil you could get. Leaving the bag open seems pretty tame for CE. I suggest the following:
Lawful Good: bread box w/ the bag
Neutral Good: bag clip
Chaotic Good: twist and tuck
Lawful Neutral: bread box w/o the bag
True Neutral: original bread clip
Chaotic Neutral: twist or tuck, not both
Lawful Evil: bag is tied shut
Neutral Evil: bag is left open
Chaotic Evil: bag is torn open in the middle
- Chaotic evil: bread is tossed directly into the cupboard.
  
  Chaotic evil: bread is kept on the floor.
- Lawful evil: Bag is vacuum sealed every time after using.

What about reusing the bag clip plus the twist and tuck method?

Step 1: get some real bread
- For real. I recently discovered that the bakery at the chain supermarket across the street from me sells giant loaves of sourdough for about a dollar less than even the "budget" brands in the factory-made bread aisle. Not going back.
  
  It just gets stale so fast. We don't eat that much bread.
- Step Sigma: Bake your own bread
  It's way easier than you think it is to make a basic loaf of yeast-based, white bread. I had the recipe memorized for a few months while I was first getting into it.
  iiffy on amounts but it ain't many ingredients
  Bread Flower
  Yeast
  Honey (because sugar is boring)
  Salt
  One Egg
  Level 2: Add more honey, slightly less yeast and toss brown sugar, cinnamon and nutmeg in melted butter in it while rolling.
  bonus round: add raisins
  
  Hey, I really appreciate your comment and I hope you have all the fun in the world with the recipes that you like.
  But I have to be honest, this is not the bread I'm talking about. I'm really sorry, I don't want to be your opponent.
  I have baked a few breads and sugar or honey is not needed to get the yeast going. That's a misconception I've encountered before, talking to a US-American. What you described sounds lovely, but (for me) it goes into the direction of brioche, milk bread, Hefezopf (yeast braid) and other sweet breads bordering on cake.
  Real bread is: flour, water, sourdough, industrial yeast (optional), salt, spices (optional// caraway, fennel, coriander).
  The second trigger point: flour.
  I'm again sorry to offload this unto you, but I have to speak my piece.
  What is bread flour? The nomenclature is meaningless, but that's the fault of the market. I need to know from a flour, which grain it comes from (wheat, rice, maize, spelt, rye, dinkel) and how much of the rind is still in it (how dark it is or how white). Protein content is a bonus.
  Just as a positive send off: I love raisins and sweet breads with raisins (Hefezopf).

Reuse clip or twist and tuck are the only appropriate methods.

Maybe it depends on climate, but bread left out where I am gets moldy way before it gets stale. The best solution is to keep it in the freezer (in a bag, and any of those methods but CE would probably be fine). Weeks later, the bread is still soft and send fresh. Bread thaws unbelievably fast. If I'm making a sandwich, I take two slices out and put them on a plate separated. Usually by the time I've got the other ingredients ready to go, the bread is thawed. If you're toasting the bread, it can go straight from freezer to toaster. If you're making sandwiches to take to work or school, you can just make them on the frozen bread.
- This is the way. I rarely eat bread that isn't at least warmed, so the only issue with the frozen bread is the effort it sometimes takes to separate slices.

Let's put an end to the discussion
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I'm just saying twist and tuck is the best because it seals well enough and it's fast and requires no additional equipment. If you have a breadbox that's peak convenience, but I've only seen one family that had one ever, and they had the counter space for it.
- Also worth noting: a bread box generally isn't sealed that well, I would still recommend keeping the bread in a bag (depending on what type it is and how quickly you plan to eat it).
- We have a bread box but keep the bread in the bag inside the box.
  
  Better put the bread box in the cupboard, just to be on the safe side.

You want to know what bothers me with this chart? What has always bothered me, is it does not mention the twist-tie that comes with the bread when purchased.
Where is it? Where.
P.s. if you say it's the clip, that is clearly a chip bag clip, meant for chip bags. That clip does not come with the bread bag.
P.s.s. Make the FUCKING TWIST-TIE that comes with the bread true natural. Any deviation from it becomes a different part of the chart. Fuck off rubber band method. Replace the bottle cap method. (Who uses the bottle cap + ring method anyway? That should be in the 'psychopath waisting energy and justifying it with internet logic' level of evil category.)
- At least where I'm from (Canada), bread comes with a clip holding the bag shut, not a twist tie. "Re-using the clip" means the clip the came with the bag. You can see that it's a different shape in the picture. This would be the equivalent of re-using the twist tie, if that's how the bread is packaged where you live.
- The cap is "5 mins crafts" level

Pros and cons of breadbox? Any paladins out there willing to enlighten us?
- Had one, hated it, forget the bread was in there* and it doesn’t have some sort of magical bread preservation properties, it’s just a spot taking up counter space to hold a plastic bag.
  (I recognize this is my specific problem but it’s on the list of why it doesn’t work for me)
  
  Same here though, the bread turns to a brick of mold way before even getting close to the end.
  The refrigerator might change the bread properties but at least it isn't ruined in two days.
- I've tried bread containers (like boxes, but sealed plastic) and it was awful. I swear it went moldy faster in the thing than outside it.
  
  Plastic seals in moisture, wood absorbs it

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Twist and tuck has never let me down

Htf does the bottle cap work
- you cut the top of a plastic bottle with a knife or any kind of cutter, as you got the top, you got the part that have a screw cap, so, the next you have to do is make the bag go trough the hole, turn back the plastic and then close it with the screw cap.
  
  How do I get my bread through a bottle cap?
  
  Thank you random internet strange

When you put the Lawful Neutral into the Lawful Good to form the Lawful Supreme

Throw in the fridge

I keep my bread in the fridge, and then it doesn't matter.
I guess it means I'm in Pathfinder universe or something
- This, keep it in fridge and only tuck.
  Quick round in the toaster if needed for the cold bread, or not if it is used to make lunch to bring to work or something.

I am lawful neutral (use clip it came with) until about halfway through the loaf, then I become chaotic neutral (twist and tuck) at the back half.
There isn’t enough bag to properly twist and tuck until that point anyway.
- I'm lawful neutral until I lose the bread clip and go chaotic neutral. Sometimes I'm lawful good the whole time, but I've been chaotic at the start and that's fun!

Chaotic evil would be rearranging the slices so they don't work for easy sandwiches.
- Chaotic evil includes eating the heels of the bread first, because you don't want that sweet extra protection layer from fungi.

Lawful neutral, or if the clip gets lost, then chaotic neutral.
- Chaotic neutral also if it comes with one of those wire twist ties, ain't nobody got time for that. Only plastic clips get reused.
  
  Oh I like twisty ties! Because I just wrap it once around the bag, then I get to spin the bread like a nunchuck to twist it all up

I tie a knot AND twist and tuck. Where does that leave me?

Freezer bags, 4 slices per bag, in a freezer. That way I can take out only as much bread as I can eat before it gets moldy.

i usually tie a knot, or use the little noodle thing that comes with the bread package to tie it

Twist, tuck, freeze

Do none of you people have clothes pins? Or does that count as Neutral Good?
Also, CG and CN need to be switched. There is no way the bottle hack counts as "good."
- A large amount of the US has some combination of weather, wildlife, regulations, and space constraints, that makes line drying clothing untenable. So... no?
  
  I only line dry my clothes when I think they need to be seasoned with some guano.

Why would you do anything else than neutral evil? Waste of time and plastics.
Chaotic good should be: only buy fresh bread and it's considered ruined and garbage the next day so why bother with bags.
- If you have fresh baguettes and they go stale, just cut them into slices and stick them in the toaster oven for a bit and you've pretty much got those fancy dried bread snacks for way cheaper than they usually sell for.

No other neutral evil folks? Ah well, I haven't eaten bread in ages anyhow.
- It is the optimal way. Lowest effort, fastest, same result, no additional stuff needed.

always using a bag clip. Reusing the bag clip if it needs to be eaten soon (e.g. at a party) since it's less of a fuss to remove it.

I never knew that I am chaotic neutral

Chaotic neutral for the win.

I guess I'm lawful evil lol

Lawful good for homemade, lawful neutral until my gf throws out the thingy and forces me to go with chaotic neutral.

I've been making my own bread for like 3 years now and I don't really crave storebought bread at all any more. Mine is just better.

As long as it's airtight and not stored for weeks it's ok. Use good bread though, not this bad imitation.

If you look at it, it's lawful good.
But at its core, it's chaotic neutral.
- True neutral?
  
  No, I'm twist'n'tucking in the bread box.

Twist and tuck inside the breadbox obviously.

I save the little clip things from packaged buns and other stuff because they are way better than the twisty ties that usually come on sliced bread.

I twist, fold then put a clip on it. This also works well with the two common kinds of clips you get with the bag (plastic squareish thing with a hole like in the image and plastic thing with metal wire in it) and other clips you have yourself as the fold makes it so the bag doesn't untwist as much.
- You should try a vacuum sealer.

I simply do not allow an open bag of bread to be left unless all the bread have been eaten. Problem solved.
- True chaotic evil.

Lawful neutral until 2/3. After neutral evil.
- My neutral evil on a small partial loaf is basically rolling it until all the excess is tucked.

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