Feddit.org officially announces they will ban criticism of Israel and pro-Palestinian posts and comments.

thank you

And yet every self-declared pro-Zionist I've talked to says Zionism is just the right of the state of Israel to exist, and so being anti-Zionist is being for the destruction of the state, and being for the destruction of the state is being for the death or dispossession of every person in the state.

I think the German state is probably more inclined to interpret discussion of Zionism the way the pro-Zionists I've spoken to have describe the term.

I think the historical description in the text that you link is accurate, but if you're trying to argue that Germans should be able to critique Zionism however they want because of that, it's like literally getting into an argument about the literal meaning of literally with people who use literally to mean figuratively, but instead of a random teenager or twee linguistic descriptivist, you are arguing with the state.

Who got the oldest artifacts in Palestine? Doesn't seem colonizing if you have one of the earliest histories somewhere, right? That's why Russia has a right to reclaim Ukraine /s

Yes, and you are free to critizise Zionism for that on Feddit.org. The legal problem is not that, but that the German authorities don't play word games and tend to equate Zionism/Israel/Jews as a shortcut and leave it to courts to decide later if that was justified or not.

But have you thought but the guy doing the genocide asshole?!?!

I find it more disgusting than .ml and even hexbear, Chinese Human rights violations lean towards cultural genocide, Israel is killing, starving, dislocating and destroying their culture, ethnicity, community and land, it is as bad as it can get, any defence of Israel is disgusting for me, and criticism of Palestine on that front is very ill timed in that manner, you can't worry about 'terrorism' when the alternative is extermination

The post literally says that you can critizise that 🤦

Please understand that there can be some nuance on the topic and that people in Germany are understandably extra careful on the topic.

THATS how we vote.

How do i do this from a browser? Edit- Hilarious this got under someones skin enough to downvote. Bootlicking fascist. Censor me harder daddy. From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free

How do I do this from an app like Boost?

You’re not keeping up with the news from Germany then I take it.

I live in Germany, and it's a totally realistic scenario, especially in Bavaria. They seize computers to intimidate digital activists all the time for way less serious topics.

So if that's not the case, that does mean Germany is not fascist? Or are they fascist and is their policy justified?

Better yet I am trying to get them to add me to their ban list

Didn't blaja already defed them?

Comments will not be removed for the following:

• Denouncing genocide.
• Denouncing Israeli war crimes.
• Criticizing Zionism as an ideology or political movement.
• Referring to the current Israeli government as “criminal,” “expansionist,” or “far-right”.

How is that siding with genocide?

did the same and it's the first time i've used lemmy's blocklist; i hope there aren't more in the future

How do you do that?

A bit more context for that quote:

calling for a one-state solution without specifying equal rights for all people; Jewish in particular.

The "one state" in the one-state solution is Israel, which currently views itself as an occupying power, and has Jewish Supremacy enshrined in her basic law (essentially constitution). Jews are not the group that is at risk in this scenario.

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others - George Orwell, Animal Farm

People are saying 1984 but Animal Farm is where it's at

Guilt Pride

Thank you for this term.

For a server hosted in Austria 🤡

Feddit.org was not started as an law-skirting activist space with specific op-sec requirements.

My impression when talking with the admins is that they are quite sympethatic to such efforts, but simply ask that to be done somewhere else where it is safer for everyone involved.

It says it in the name. Reddit but for and by the feds.

That and .world every time someone suggests that genocide is bad.

I don’t think you get banned for upvoting Luigi here yet

Is it any shock when actual members of the Nazi party and SS were kept around to help rebuild West Germany?

We should have just dealt with the problem instantly. Hindsight is 20/20 but fascists deserve no breaks.

Why are only Germans ex-nazi and Italians not ex-fascist? Y'all seem to enjoy your pizza

Sometimes joining the bad side is the only way not to die. I wish you strength to do the right thing (and a family in a far away safe place) when you're in such situation.

weren't the na*is litterally against that group of people?

also defending facism at every turn

akshually they're just complying to law 🤓

Lets not validate the intimidation tactics of the g*rman police. From the river to the sea.

Let me guess, nobody batted an eyelid when Netanyahu used the phrase to assert Jewish supremacist sovereignty "West of the Jordan". Like you can say from the river to the sea as long as your extremist statement has the opposite of the proscribed polarity.

Do you have a source about that incident? Reminds me of a dude arrested in russia for holding a blank piece of paper.

There is a double filter, but it's on the part of German law, not feddit mods.

In Germany, it is legal to say "Hamas is just as evil as the Nazis and has the same goals and aims". It is illegal to say the same thing but with "Israel" or "Zionism" instead of "Hamas".

What lack of theory does to a mfer.

Western Germany never de-Nazified, the Nazis teamed up with the Zionists even when the Nazis were in power. They left the Nazis as they were effective anti-Communists, and the West collectively felt that was a worthwhile trade. Germany pays lip service to combatting fighting the Nazis, but keeps the underlying fascism the West in general has.

Says the person not at risk of early moring police raids of their home including months long confiscation of all their communication devices and costly legal proceedings to get them back.

The country or the inhabitants?

What capitulation lmao. Can't capitulate to yourself.

They think it makes them uniquely qualified to judge whats a genocide and what isnt^{(dont laugh)}

Sounds like you need to use a different app then. Cuz I'm pretty sure you can block instances on most other ones. I use connect and I blocked a number of instances.

you should be able to do that from the web interface, and it will apply to any apps because your server does the filtering.

fyi, some are already blocking lemmy.ml too. I'm not yet sure if I want to go that far, but I'm getting tired of their china apologism. and this community is also on ml, soo..

Assuming you're using the default Lemmy UI, there's a block settings menu in your account settings page. It's worth exploring, there's some good options to play around with.

Russophobic nazi supremacism still kosher though.

I've noticed that pro-Israel Germans are usually not that much against Russia.