I'm going to murder you now

High five for you and everybody else here. It's like one of the 12 Rules for Life, assume that the other person knows things that you don't. Remembering that rule tames the racing thoughts and helps me to listen effectively for a few moments. It holds relationships together.

get the brain chemicals they reward themselves

Damn. They should probably see a doctor about that and not take drugs.

Some people online do that too. Arguing for a dopamine rush, whilst saying the same thing as the arguee.

That makes sense. Sometimes common arguments, advice, and old ideas get shared ad nauseum around social circles, like moldy old memes that everyone, except them, is tired of hearing. One person says stupid idea with conviction, and others listen. Now when someone else repeats stupid idea around the first person, they know they'll be agreed with - it's an easy way to get that dopamine hit and strengthen a social bond. Others in the group then start to think that stupid idea is important for them to also believe, and the effect snowballs, as more of them share stupid idea with others - expecting to be agreed with.

People keep doing this, over and again, never once examining the words they repeat. This leads to people who confidently say ignorant crap like, "You don't need medicine, you seem fine to me!" despite the fact that they've only ever seen you after you'd taken your medicine. It's likely someone in their social circle put that idea in their head once, and they never critically examined it because it's easier and more rewarding to simply repeat things without thinking about them.

You just described 90% of what goes on in social media

I took speed once with a friend and he was completely off the rails, I didn't feel anything. Is that a bad sign?

God that is the absolute worst.

It's more fun when it's your own mother trying to sell her MLM holistic bullshit. No mom, I don't need your snake oil pills, I needed a therapist.

It's such a shame how the word "holistic" has been co-opted by the woo-woo brigade. The concept it's meant to represent, which is simply "the idea that the whole is more than merely the sum of its parts," makes sense on its own, and is applied in legit medicine.

However, the word has been associated with snake oil so much that it's hard to take it seriously anymore. I was in my mid-20s by the time I learned the actual meaning of the word; until then I assumed it was akin to "homeopathy" or some other garbage.

His ears are full of popped sorghum.

(this advice does not apply if you want to sell adderall)

Or launch into a tirade about how it's fake and doesn't do anything and be reeeeally fucking insistent on it

Especially in this day and age in the United States when the "health department" is trying to categorize these groups as subhuman if you're autistic or have ADHD

Ooh, pithy, I like this

How fucking stupid do you have to be to miss it?

D.A.R.E. and similar anti-drug propaganda of the 80s, plus the more naive naturalist movements of the 70s-00s, really pounded in the idea that any kind of medication is bad for you.

Curiously, however, you don't see people chasing around the CEO of the company for taking heart pills.

It's because coworker used to buy Adderall in college so they think of it as something cheaters use.

No, see, if you visit a doctor, you're cured.

Why are you listening to doctors?

But... you said...

I like to pour them a glass of peroxide and tell them to drink it. It's basically water. Literally just a molecule away from being water bro. Drink it bro, cmon! It's just a molecule!

I mean, you technically sort of are taking meth in a way, but that's because you need it since you react differently to it.

I mean, there's nothing wrong with someone with severe physical trauma being given fentanyl for example.

Even if meth was chemically identical to ADHD meds, the argument still wouldn't hold. Anything that lessens people's symptoms without creating even more problems can be a medication.

Meth is the #1 most abused drug by clinical scientists. That is to say, just like functional alcoholism is a thing, there's functional meth heads among some of the most well-respected and reputable scientists in the world. Anyway that would be my response if I was told I was basically taking meth.

They do actually prescribe actual meth for adhd but it’s a different drug known as Desoxyn

Noice! Art will save us from entropy.

I thought exactly the same!

Or paleo diets.

it's da food colorin it is

Calm your shit dude. Don't go to HR over something this small.

Just punch his dad in the cock.

HR is the office cop.

NEVER talk to American cops.

My HR and I have a wordless dirty look relationship.

In my experience, fucking HR is worse than the gossip boxes.

Have some patience

I’m not disabled myself but if a coworker says something like that they’re probably just uninformed, it just shows that their concerned for you

Unless Terry is running a very weird business and/or love his labelprinter

Especially when the person taking them literally mentions that they are prescribed.

I can hear this image

May I interest you in some apple cider vinegar? Or perhaps colloidal silver?

Isaidgoodday

That's the one quote I still like from that 70s show.

Had the same experience a few years back. Didn't put two and two together until after about the 3rd line. I'll stick to molly lol

try mexican meth (don't!)

Have you tried the non stimulants like Strattera or any other SNRIs?

I've been struggling with the same thing. I've tried Adderall XR and Concerta so far, with neither really actually helping with my focus or executive function. All I got were headaches, sinus pressure, uncomfortable appetite suppression (felt like my throat was full), and a few other standard stimulant side effects.

Waiting on Vyvanse to see how the prodrug formulations work out, but I'm not optimistic. Concerta did help with my anxiety, but the side effects overpowered any benefit.

I was on guanafacine forever, and it never helped. Does it do anything for you?

Personally I'm not taking adderall to work because I can't get meds because I cannot afford the $400 I need to get a diagnosis because every doctor I've ever had has said "You have ADHD but I can't help you because I'm not a specialist".

As for the sleep schedule?

I have slept 4 hours in 3 days.

I can taste time and it is bitter.

Edit: 5 doctors in 3 years have told me they can't help me because they're not specialists despite me being referred to them for the ADHD. Just checked my records. I am going to start chewing a hole through a fucking desk.

There's a thing called instant release and it tends to last only like 4 hours. 4 hours is what the doctors say- for me, it lasts about 1 and a half, or 2.