Once in a Generation Person

Killing Greta would be the kind of media storm that Israel would not want to deal with

Israel shot the ship last time they tried to go across... I don't think they care.
I don't understand why people would think, "they surely won't kill me, it would be too immoral!" while protesting a literal genocide.

In March 16, 2003, Rachel Corrie, an American nonviolence activist, placed herself in the path of a Caterpillar D9R armored bulldozer in Rafah, in an attempt to impede house demolitions, and was run over by the bulldozer and murdered. I strongly discourage you from finding it, but there is video of her death. They definitely saw her, surely heard her screaming, and they did not hesitate.... On March 16, every year since including this year, Israeli soldiers (and others) eat waffles in celebration of killing her.

Imagine trying to bring a humanitarian aid vessel to one of the Jewish ghettos in Nazi germany pre-wwii... Do you think the Nazis would be afraid of "the kind of media storm" they'd get? Or would they just kill them and continue the genocide?

I wouldn't say it's pointless, or that it's not brave... but it's naive to think that a genocidal regime, who is very public about their genocide, will suddenly have a crisis of conscience because they don't want to kill white people.

also, for the record, she did not attempt to do this before. She acted like she was going to attempt to, but then didn't get on the boat. I don't think she should get on it, either... that's not her skillset and the only point of her being on it is, "oh but they wouldn't dare to kill greta!"... and they surely would kill her, and not apologize, and probably celebrate her death.

Israel is a heartless genocidal monster of a nation. It doesn't give two shits for any "generational icon" and the US has already voiced support for drowning her. This is the worst timeline and icons don't matter to power.

She is insanely clever, courageous, and selfless playing chicken with the state of Israel like this. She knows that either she succeeds in delivering aid to Palestine, or her death sparks a backlash that could be the tipping point for the rest of the world to get off their ass and do something.

They'd blame it on Hamas

You sure live in a beautiful dream world

Israel has violated a ceasefire at least 3 times. They Blockes off AId, killed Journalist, even kidnapped one and returned it without Organs. But you think a human rights activist that most right wingers consider a Terrorist will somehow make headlines?

Still it’s pretty probable when you go over there and I always liked her so that sucks

I always viewed her as the girl who just cried and everyone said respect for that. I thought it was a bit dumb and cringe.

I'm glad to see her do things like this. It changed my mind. Respect to her.

I hope one of Lady G's male escorts outside him, which destroys his political career.

That closeted queer deserves a far more painful end. A long, protracted one. Maybe being eaten feet first by Randy Fine.

Part of it is the fact that there was an absolutely vicious smear campaign against her character when she first started speaking out. It did a lot to mark her as "cringe", which made people dismiss her.

You hang out toouch in right wing echo chambers

when she was younger she was paraded by libs for green washing, the media either hated her or loved her.

when thise libs realised she isn't a grifter the mass media either ignored her or kept on hating her.

There's always been very vocal criticisms of her from people who don't agree with her (for whatever reason they may have). But since she first started her activism, over a decade ago, no one I personally know has had a negative view of her. The people who don't like her are very vocal about it, but on the whole I've always assumed she's well liked.

I've personally been a fan of hers since I found out about her, and every time I hear about her doing something I basically always go "hell yeah"

Please don't ask me to explain my use of english 🙈

I hope for the best, but I know how this world works. Her death will not move mountains, just add another name to the list of innocent people that have died from this "conflict". It will be a blip across the screen for maybe a day, and then the next horrible thing will happen to take it's place.

Not really a girl anymore either. She's an adult. She is a woman.

And she's hardly poor for sure.

Waaa look at mee i make entire comments over semantics!

Odin would certainly smile upon her should a tragedy happen. She and her comrades certainly are brave

Pls fix these typos lol I agree with your message tho

How can I monitor her too?

They celebrate her death in Israel by making pancakes.

Deeply unwell society.

She already has a page, it will be a larger section on her many achievements.

I don't think sinking this aid vessel would do anything to change the public conversation. The people who are aware already either condemn Israel or support the genocide. The unaware will not care about a handful more dead innocents.

The bottom line is that Israel is openly and proudly committing atrocities and the international community is not willing to stop it. Only a military intervention could dissuade the IDF.

I wish I could agree with you, but the situation in Gaza looks more and more like something we've seen before. After the end of World War 2, the world reacted with shock at what had been done to the Jews - murder has never been committed on such a grand scale and in such organized fashion. Jews had been dehumanised in public long before, being equated to rats and other vermin. The Zionists currently holding on to power in Israel are using the same kind of rhetoric against Palestinians. However, one difference between then and now is that the Rwanda genocide taught us that the world is entirely capable of sitting back and watch the horror unfold, even though we're all fully informed of what's going on. A ship of brave volunteers being sunk would cause a stern letter or at best sanctions. Israel can act with utter impunity as long as they're backed by their big brother Uncle Sam.

If they hurt Greta I predict there will be a lot of backlash due to her fame and popularity.

There will be a lot of "thoughts and prayers", a lot of "how dare you", also lots of "this is a diplomatic incident" sprinkled with maybe sanctions if ever... and that's it, just words.
I hope i'm wrong.

Also a great way to interconnect the climate and Palestinian struggles

Hasn't her fame faded a bunch in recent years though?

Also, if executing medics, responders and children won't cause a scandal, this won't.

Pretty wildly demeaning to take someone doing something brave and putting her body on the line for people in need as "main character syndrome". What have you done lately?

Imagine sitting on a bus and looking at a woman who refuses to move to give up her seat and thinking "man, she must have main character syndrome". If only we had you back there to diagnose her, maybe history would be different now.

Maybe it will work out. You know what won't though? You doing nothing and very much belittling her on the Internet.

Wow because someone wants to get of their ass and do something to try to better the world they have main character syndrome. Well then I wish more people had it so they could get off their lazy asses and try to better the world.

Oh shi

You hope. It isn't the ones who know who you are that push the button. You hope...

No of course not but these killings tend to be swept under the rug by the media or get drowned out in the sea of atrocities being committed.

Somebody like Greta being killed would cause a media storm which is why I don't think the Zios would try as much as they would like to. Killing female activists is a specialty. See Rachel Corrie.

Wtf?! Are you guys against the genocide or not? I get not everyone getting on a boat and dareing two countries to bomb you, but to judge someone who would for a good cause is beyond bull shit.

I don’t care if she was the most self centered person ever, seems to me she is walking the walk and using what fame she has, that she got by doing this kinda thing in the first place for the most pressing cause. I don’t know what more you could have asked for

Gatekeeping advocacy against a genocide is the wildest kind of lib brain

Attaching herself to the latest cause célèbre? Are you clinically insane? She is boarding a ship not liking an Instagram post

Hrm, idk. I think I would just avoid the reference altogether. It feels, to me, like the reference emotionally charges the reporting too much for my liking. That being said, perhaps something more like this: "A month after a ship with the same destination that she was to board was allegedly bombed, Greta Thunberg sets sail to Gaza.".

[…] You had a misunderstanding.

It felt, to me, like they were insinuating that she was on board while it happened, but on second thought perhaps I read too much into it.

Similarly, if you were going to fly on an airplane, people would say what time does your plane land? They don’t think you own the plane.

I think that's a fair point!

Well your country may have been on stolen land, what if you had a group of people near you that wanted to take the land back by force; are you willing to give up your own house?

The whole question is absurd, you're not going to, and you're also not going to let them continue attacking you, because your desire to save your family from rape and murder is greater than your empathy.

What will people do that they couldn't already do?

Israel doesn't give a fuck. The US has its back no matter what and that's all they need to effectively continue with their extermination campaign. If Greta dies then the EU will wag its finger even harder at Israel and the US won't say shit at best or blame Greta and accuse her of being a terrorist sympathizer at worst.

I fully agree with you and I appreciate you posting this comment. Thank you.

They don't care about activists, if the goal is to distribute aid getting killed seems counter-intuitive.

edit: also drones are dirt cheap, so what if some of your quads get shot, you can launch hundreds at once

edit2: and depending on the speed and size, the chances of shooting them down go down. I don't think they have trophies on every meter of coastline or loads of EW for every frequency.

Btw I'm super interested in stats on efficiency of this sort of thing, and not peace time smuggling or blockade running but these exact scenarios of civilians breaking military blockades