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Ontario MPP ejected from debate for claiming Ford is telling ‘untruths’ about Bill 5 | Globalnews.ca

globalnews.ca Ontario MPP ejected from debate for claiming Ford is telling ‘untruths’ about Bill 5 | Globalnews.ca

The government has faced fierce pushback to its proposed law to create special economic zones to fast-track priority infrastructure projects in the province.

If the government's stance is so well based in fact and authority ... then it shouldn't be afraid of any kind of criticism or debate from any side. The fact that they just remove any dissent goes to show how weak and dishonest everything is.

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At this point it is clear to see that Ford is nothing but a full on fascist.
- And to Indigenous people here in the north, it's clear to us that our fellow neighbours in southern Ontario are just fine with that.
  
  Not this southern Ontarian.

Call Ford whatever you want. In reality I think he's under qualified and overwhelmed. We need more competent leadership.
- Underqualified! .... when the leaders debates were happening, we compared a bunch of metrics between them all for ourselves at home for fun.
  All the leaders had university education and even business and corporate experience.
  Ford? ... he barely graduated high school ... attended two months of college and dropped out!
  Now he's in charge of an entire province! Canada's largest, wealthiest province!

Mamakwa was asked to withdraw the remark by Speaker Donna Skelly, who viewed the statement as unparliamentary. When Mamakwa refused, he was removed from the chamber.
Does this mean the speaker can eject anyone for anything they don't like?
- The thing is .... if the government is so sure of their actions, beliefs and rhetoric, than any criticism shouldn't matter to them. Their arguments and statements should be so sure and based on fact that there would be no strong argument against them.
  But the fact that they can't take any criticism means that everything they're planning on doing is based on very undemocratic and illegitimate reasons that they have a very hard time defending.
  Thanks Ontario for voting away our democratic right to dissent and disagree.
  We northerners and native communities are the first to lose out .... but eventually, everyone everywhere in Ontario will lose.
  
  I'm touching on something else. That even if we voted for someone less autocratic, if this is how the system works, the only thing stopping them from doing the same is them... being less autocratic. I think that's a problem with our democratic system itself. And I think the solution is to make that much more difficult, not merely try to choose better behaved reps. I know I'm not saying anything new here, as we've discussed the same problem in the context of the electoral system. Just another facet I guess.

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