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Elon hits the red button

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Waking up to this was like Super Christmas.
Whichever one loses, we all win 😂😂😂
- Hopefully both!

I don’t know why he says this like it’s a revelation, everyone knows

I'm assuming Musk did this after he removed his own name from them.
- He's the richest man in the world, he doesn't need to be involved with Epstein at all, he's rich enough to fund his own pedo ring
  
  Blackjack and hookers will be among the most morally acceptable things in that ring.
  
  I am a little dismayed that the world's awareness of sex-trafficking and systemic child abuse seem to begin and end with Epstein.
  Does everyone think that this kind of vile luxury for the wealthy was centered around ONE person? There are billions of people on Earth, it's not only still going on, but the ringleaders are celebrating that the world's attention is on just one dude who was caught and killed for it.
- Or was he a relevant name too late to be invited? In his early big boy years he was very busy seeming like humanity's hope to live past the suns expansion.

Post the files then you fucking asshole.

this is political theater, planned and staged infighting. and the liberals are going to absolutely EAT IT UP. the reality is that Trump has always been the fall guy, the scapegoat, the lightning rod.
the ownership class utilized him to concentrate power, they use him as a distraction, and now they can use him at a scapegoat. they want to pretend to "switch teams" and get on our good side, so we forget how much they were the ones who hurt us.
when you see this, just try to remind people of that. remind them who is holding us down.
- I don't think they have as much control as you think, I just think they're confident they can come out on top of whatever chaos he causes no matter what it is.
- this guy gets it.
- Divide and conquer is the name of the game. Hopefully people will wise up one of these days

A big bomb would have been definite proof that Trump isn't in the Epstein files.
Stating the obvious at the other hand isn't.
- My thought exactly!

But... Did not everyone practically already know this?
- everyone with more than three neurons.

Lettuce found in grocery store

The big bomb would be a paper trail showing how they rigged the election.
We've already seen the documents that say trump is a rapist paedophile.
- That's a massive claim, so it'll require some substantial evidence. However, there are many statistical irregularities in swing states and other anomalies that haven't occurred for 100+ years.
  There are already several SMART and ETA lawsuits in a few states to demand recounts/audits.
- There's no way the election was rigged, this is 2020 election denial bullshit. The election results were in line with what the polls were showing, and it also shows in his approval ratings. The reality is that the people really wanted Trump again for some reason.
- I believe you need to be able to read Russian to understand the former though...

this is almost worth something, but not quite lol
- It's not, it's just posing

I thought this for many many years.

Oh musk, just wait until ICE knock on your door and deport you back to where you came from ~~arpartheid africa~~ ~~nazi germany~~ El Salvador.

"water is wet" ahh

- Captain Obvious and Captain Hindsight are very busy these months.

~~Is this a real twit? (Or whatever you call the post on X nowadays)~~
checked! It’s real 🍿🍿🍿

It kind of rings hollow when he was bringing his child around the guy while Donald wasn't releasing the files, along with being one of his biggest cheerleaders.
- It would be genuinely shocking if he wasnt, considering how close they were.
  But yes. The kid thing was gross.
  
  His kid is nothing but a prop to him. And a human meat shield against Luigis.

And all that happened was that it said "THAT WAS EASY!"

I mean, we knew that anyway, right?
- Literally. Anyone who ever associated with Epstein will "be in the files" but what we're hoping to see from the public release is actual evidence of who was involved in his sex trafficking and child abuse "operations."
  Saying "Trump is in the files" is obvious because we know they were associates. Musk is leaving an "out" by not saying specifics, but he knows it will have an impact with his own following who for the longest time were also Trump stans who lived in cognitive dissonance and covered their eyes when they saw the clips of Trump and Epstein hanging together. He gave his fans permission to feel shock and horror against Trump without actually revealing anything.
  This is theatrics for a group of people who only know how to live in storylines. IE: people who think WWE is real.

Elon Musk isn't really part of MAGA though. He joined Trump and MAGA shortly before the election and now got chewed up by Trump like anyone else did. Nobody on the Republican side gives a shit about him. With his money he can make trouble but thinking this is a turning point is silly. It's just more chaos.
- More like, he paid his bribe, got to rip up regulations and stop litigation that was costing him money, smashed a bunch of shit as a distraction, then fucked off.
  
  And stole everyone's data
  
  Trump and MAGA will be more than happy to let him take credit and the blame for doge. Although it really was the think tank behind project 2025. Passing the blame to Musk is a win for Trump. So that is part of being used, chewed up by his remaining fans and then thrown away like the garbage he is. We'll see how his net worth develops.
- Wonder how happy centrists are gonna be when he endorses newsom in 2028.
  
  Please, don't even joke about it.
- He wasn't MAGA, but DARK GOTHIC MAGA.
  
  The exulted digital aristocrat, Captain of Industry and technofeudalist Lord Musk
- I'd say that Musk was just as big of a part of MAGA as anyone else. Quite a bit more than most really because he ran a whole ass government agency so he and Trump could harm their political/business opponents.
  Even though the Leopard ate his face, he still voted for/ promoted/ worked for/ and donated hundreds of millions of dollars to the Leopard. Musk is in no way a victim here.
  Sure, he got 'chewed up' (I guess), but so did Hitlers supporters when they outlived their usefulness. It's really not surprising.
  Nobody on the Republican side gives a shit about him.
  Name anybody (besides themselves) that they do care about? Caring about people isn't exactly the Republicans strong suit.
  I agree it's not really a 'turning point' but don't underestimate the number of people (MAGAt's or not) who are Musk ball lickers. Those people will 'pick a side' and not everyone will choose Trump. They are both Fascists though, so the people end up losing either way.
  
  I guess my main point is that Elon doesn't really have a "base" any more. Neither the neoliberal technologists and futurists he charmed nor MAGA are on his side any more. He burned his bridges with public support. So he only has his money to influence representatives. And is empire is crumbling too.
  What prompted me is that the neoliberal mainstream press and social media is jumping on this as if it was a turning point. This is another "Trump is in deep trouble now!" after he or someone else said something.
  PS: I'd be curious where Peter Thiel stands, the handler of Vance.
  PPS: If Thiel backs the impeachment Thiel will become president and that might align with their goals to dismantle democracy in the US.
- got chewed up by Trump
  What chewing did Trump do? The tariffs will fuck Elon over, but that hits everyone. Musk has his AI data on all citizens, secured Space X funding and crippled any investigations into his companies.
  He's leaving to try and save his Tesla fortune, not because he is being pushed.
  I'd like to hear opinions of anyone who disagrees with this PoV.
  EDIT: I spoke too soon. Just seen some definite face chewing
  
  Well chewed up - besides the financial losses - the lack of people who "like" Elon Musk. Musk is as much as an narcissist as Trump, so those irrational motivations might have pushed him to support Trump in the first place after he lost his prestige with the liberals as a "captain of industry". But now both sides hate him, he's disgraced. Now he's the one who raided the citizens data and smashed up everything with his "crazy" doge (Trump's words in the future).
- he made his own MAGA hats what are you on about
- Musk was Trump's biggest financial backer during the campaign and his most loyal ally.
  
  I mean he doesn't really any roots or supporters among MAGA like e.g. Steve Bannon. Musk "joined" MAGA shortly before the elections, but MAGA is already... over 10 years old? Musk wasn't part of that and doesn't really "speak to" MAGA either. The people he appealed to didn't come from MAGA. It was clear to MAGAts as well that he's just an opportunist and a useful tool. They liked him because he's an absurd clown that makes liberals cry. @pyre@lemmy.world

Everyone should remember that Elon doesn't care about political parties. He could give a shit less about the right or the left. He's in it for the money.
He played the right, getting an idiot elected who would allow him to gut the agencies auditing his companies. Now when he's done with them and his base is upset with him for selling out, he's pivoting back and trying to appease them.
It has always been about the money. Fuck Elon Musk.
- Elon is so incompetent that he thinks he is playing poker but shows everyone his hand.
  We see you, Elon, go ahead. The world is watching as you wanted. We will watch you lose to yourself.
  
  He shows everyone his hand, but in his hand he holds a royal flush, 5 black lotus, a Mega Mewtwo, and half a trillion dollars.
  The problem is that the cards are stacked so much in his favour that he doesn't have to hide his hand. We see him allright. But what good does this do? Can we un-elect him? Can we impeach him? What can we do? Pretty much nothing.
- How do you think he became the richest man on the world?
  
  Started with daddy's Emerald mine money and lots of pump and dump schemes. We all know it now. The FTC knew it when they forced him to buy twitter.

My favourite thing about this is just how thoroughly predictable it was.
And I don't mean in hindsight either, tons of people called it the moment Elon started hanging around Trump.
- My prediction was that one of them would trip down a stairwell eventually. Now I expect a Jack Ma style vacation for Musk
- Our politics channel was almost spot on! It's been ~4.5 months since the inauguration.
  
  "Survives until the end": 0%
- I am absolutely shocked it lasted as long as it did.
  
  I'm inclined to think the alliance is still on and this is just heel-face drama for the rubes.
  Remember how the admin has been teasing the release of the Epstein files for months? How Patel came right out and said "I saw the video, Epstein killed himself?" They've been trolling Epstein truthers for months and I think this is just more stupid fake drama.
- The bets were measured in Moochies since the begging.
  
  how many trussies was it.
- like last year, just before he won the election. only conservatives dont see it.

Musk and Trump are going to be high as balls on their various drug concoctions mean tweeting each other at 2am.
Trump on truth social and Musk on twitter. It will be glorious.

Beside the facts that everyone already assumed this:
Musk apparantly knew this for certain AND still decided to support him.
- "I can excuse paedophilia, but I draw the line at kicking me out of the super special people club!"
  
  “You can excuse paedophilia?”
- Yeah but on the positive side, there are some people on the right that are dubious of Trump and yet still dumb enough to be fans of Musk - hopefully this will speak to them.
  
  Hopefully such people exists, but I am not quite sure they do.

This is the type of political drama that will make for a hit Broadway musical in like 200 years.
- like "The Producers"
  
  The Aristocrats!
  
  Springtime for Elon
- Does it really count as a musical if the only song is "I've written a letter to daddy"?
- More like in 5 years or so

Of course he is. Though, to be fair, it's not the first time he called someone he's mad at a "pedo guy".
On the other hand, I'm sure he knows a thing or two about Epstein's associates.

The only way this could get funnier is for the White House to release the Epstein files containing Elon out of spite.
- Omg, I thought she was crossing her arms in the top part of her dress. Like she was cold and needed to warm her arms.
- The only way this could get funnier is for the White House to release the Epstein files containing Elon out of spite.
  ..and fail to redact DJT properly
  
  Yeah they’ll Highlight in black the parts they want redacted again.
  
  I'm actually surprised they haven't done the classic yet, of releasing a "redacted" document where you can just highlight parts to reveal the text.
- What a terrible tailoring job. The bottom half looks alright, but the tailor cut the top of that dress way too roomy. Her boobs aren't big enough to fill it, so it makes her look small. She should fire her tailor.
  
  At first I thought you meant Musk looking like a kid who outgrew the jacket.
  
  if this comment was made on reddit 10 years ago shed be in the replies defending herself, or more likely moderating and deleting the comments (I just think its funny she was a top redditor)
  
  Pretty sure it's just her posture. It's cut for shoulders back and she's hunching just enough for it to bag a little.
- "Elon, were you able to meet up with Ghislaine at kung fu practice on Saturday?"
  Allegedly an actual text between musk / Epstein
  
  Damn, everybody was Kung Fu fighting
- Context of the photo? I only know Elon's mug there
  
  That's Ghislaine Maxwell, socialite and friend of Trump and Epstein. Currently in prison for sex trafficking.
  You know, in case their connections to Epstein island weren't obvious enough.
  
  Epstein and Maxwell went out of their way to get photos with every celebrity possible, I’m assuming for blackmail reasons, there’s photos of them with so many people where the photo they’re in was their first and last interaction - not to defend musk cause I have no idea the depth of their relationship, or potential lack there of, but this seems more like she snuck into the photo and he’s not even aware she’s there. I don’t personally believe musk is a pedo
  
  I believe behind him and to the left is Ghislaine Maxwell
- What’s her name used to moderate a major subreddit. I think it was r/worldnews but maybe my memory is failing me.

Well ... Duh.
Republicans dont care. They will just scream and accuse everyone under the sun of being molesters ... then deflect for and defend their own evil kind.
Republicans are the demonically possessed people the Bible warns about in Timothy ... but the "Conservatives" are not interested in religion.

No, really?
- Isn't that his daughter? Still weird and gross
  
  Wanna make it grosser, he has publicly said he finds her attractive and would have sex with her if she wasn't his daughter
  
  "Still weird and gross"?
  I'm going with that making it extra weird and gross.
  
  And that's not even the gross picture! There's at least two others that are even worse

I hope people don't start liking Elon... However, it is fun watching them fight :3
- The enemy of my enemy has his uses, but that absolutely does not make him my friend.
  
  Yeah, like, if Musk is telling the truth here, that means has been protecting a child rapist for months.
  
  If you see your enemies making mistakes, do not intervene!
  
  Maxim number 29: The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy, no more, no less.
  
  Yep. Maxim 29 is in full effect here. Let them fight.
  Personally though, I'm more annoyed that this may fast-track the death of the federal EV rebate program. I really wanted my future slate truck to be around $20k.
- I dunno. If Elon keeps posting stuff like this and then follows it up with hard proof, I will definitely buy a Tesla. He's going to need to post A LOT of information and with A LOT of proof, you know the type that can be used in court. I'll definitely buy a Tesla and other Elon stuff.
  (See how easy lying is. Fuck Elon you piece of shit.)
  
  Hehe, had me at the start.
- as predicted they are at each others throats, but in reality hes sitll supporitng him, hes tryng to force states to use his starlinks satellites through trump.
- Elon’s a POS, but if he wants to pay to try and take down Don John, I’m all for it.
  It would be far from the dumbest thing he spent a fortune on.
  
  how is this going to be a "take down"? a felony conviction couldn't even take him down. this is just Musk protecting his image. Musk already razored government regulations for his profits. he just needs public opinion.
- Don't think many people who dislike Elon now are going back, probably mostly just "Let them fight"
  
  I don't want Elon to win, I just want Trump to lose. And also Elon. Fuck that guy.
- Hopefully they both go down together. In front of a firing squad ideally
- Don't worry, the centrists are already talking about making friends
  
  Centrists have loved elon ever since his nazi salute.
- Politics is not, and should never, be considered a spectator sport. Get involved in your local community instead of watching these savages fight it out.
  
  Yeah, I'm trying to stop right wingers in my own country.

Oh, sweet. Nazi infighting, that's a plus; AND does this mean he just very blatantly leaked classified information? In a functioning legal system (shut up, let me dream) this means he's facing serious convictions, and lost his government contracts! Fucking yay!!
- even worse. it means that he knew for a while and held that info until he got on trumps bad side.
  he was cool with pedofilia, but not cool when it's by someone he no longer as use for.
  also, who wouldn't be surprised if Musk hasn't participated in rich people pedofilia
  
  I'd almost believe that he didn't because he's so supremely weird about wanting a lot of children and that didn't seem like a "to term" operation Epstein was running. But I could be wrong, I have no idea; I never dug into details about pedo island.
- He's an illegal immigrant, DEPORT HIM
- It is not real infighting. Just another show.
  
  Not so sure this time. Trump has been trying to avoid that shit like the plague. He also had clear ties to Epstein. If he didn't manage to make it to kangaroo court every time... There would be a significant amount of evidence to convict someone else in this case. I genuinely hope musk puts his weight behind it. Not that I like him either.
- Unfortunately, Elon Musk almost certainly wrote this tweet not knowing or being too high to realize that it was slander (or libel?) and if anything happens it will probably be Elon getting roasted in court.
  Still cool to have Elon get humiliated but Trump is the one who deserves justice handed to him for his ties to Epstein.
  
  He called a rescue worker a paedophile because they refused to use his useless hypotethical drilling machine during a delicate rescue operation. Nothing happened.
  Nothing will happened this time either.
  
  I hope MAGA listens to Musk this time

I feel like a kid at the school yard watching the two shittiest kids in class beating each other up. I love it.
- If we're doing the "let's you and him fight" thing, someone should let elon know that trump hates it when people bring up the TACO thing.
- Unfortunately it is however the two shittiest kids that have a lot of money or influence over that class/school.

Bonus meme:

Bonus meme2:
- Still way too high tho
  
  How TF can it be still positive YoY is beyond my understanding. Sales outside of US are tanking, the brand reputation ODd and died, the CEO will follow soon and he's hated by everyone except tech bros.
  I guess publicly fighting orange Hitler should be the last nail in the coffin, but I don't even know what to expect.
  
  You misspelled "comically overvalued"
- And yet still up for the month.
  That ticker is insane.

Yeah Elon, we know. Elon might be the only one who was shocked by that revelation

I would be really surprised if musk himself wasn't on that list.

I don't believe anything from these people nor do I necessarily disbelieve. Bannon flat out on video stated their tactic was to flood the media as "they can only focus on one thing at a time ". The stated strategy was to distract the public with BS while they accomplished unpopular things. Bannon himself was an advisor to Trump early during his first term. They too had a public falling out, then by the 2020 election acted as if it never happened.
- Since this is a WWE presidency, does this play like a classic heel-turn storyline?

- Mood.
- I always love this meme. The way that dude is simultaneously smiling, hitting weed, and in an action stance in case shit comes his way just makes me laugh.
  
  I always assumed it was meth instead of weed. I'm not a meth-smoking expert though.
- How much money could Trump save the US government by cancelling starship funding? All its achieved is exploding on a suborbital trajectory.
  
  How much money could Trump save the US government by cancelling starship funding
  Some people are saying "Billions and billions"?
  
  It would save the government some upfront money and then result in losses in the hundreds of billions as others can't come close to the cost to orbit that Starship can.
  There's nothing being designed today by anyone that would compete with it if successful.
  Falcon 9 as it is saves the government billions of dollars.

Odds Musk is in those files too? We know they knew him.
- I mean I have no idea more than anyone, but for some reason, he doesn't strike me as the type. As much as I dislike the man and thing he's a boil on humanity, I don't think he's that kind of creep.
  But I am not basing this on anything other than my own gut.
  
  He has more than one accusation of being a sex pest.
  
  Nobody’s accused him of artificially inseminating our youths? Well that’s nice

Haha. This is all quite amusing entertainment. Wait, aren't these people trying to run the most powerful country in the world?
- No, they’re trying to asset strip it.

We already knew this. This isn't hidden information. They released the manuscript of everyone who visited the island. Half his family went there multiple times.

Is... uh... is now a good time to talk about this?
- I never even wondered if muskrat had any siblings, he has such an "only child" energy that it didn't seem worth even thinking about. Gotta read up on them (he apparently has a sister too). Can only guess what weird shit will come up.
  
  The stepsister is more interesting because she's Elon's step-mother now.
- There are few times when you can justifiably go after a person because of something a relation did. As much as I hate Elon, he's not culpable for whatever his brother has or hasn't done, unless he participated somehow.
  Let's not stoop.
  
  As much as I hate Elon, he’s not culpable for whatever his brother has or hasn’t done
  Elon is a known horndog and sex pest. I think it's less "he's responsible" and more "he's just as mixed up in the Lolita Express gang as any of these assholes".
  Incidentally, Gislaine Maxwell was at Chelsea Clinton's wedding. I don't think that means Chelsea is a rapist. But I do think Bill is, and this kind of close relationship further illustrates the circle all these people ran in.
  
  You gotta understand that Elon as a business person has never been just Elon — it has always been Elon and Kimbal. They are thick as thieves, friend, there isn't much humanity to be sqwozed here.
  
  Its a familial rot. They are all guilty, that is the point.

Ok who had early June in the "when will Musk flame out of the Trump regime" pool?
- To be fair, I didn't think it'd take this long. I had my money on April.
- I didn’t think they’d make it this far tbh
- It wasn't in any of my 2025 bingo cards nope

Fascist on fascist violence 🍿

I've got to stock up on popcorn for the epic hissyfits these losers are throwing down. I hope Elon gets deported then proves Trump is on the Epstein list.

Everyone knows this. There’s lots of pics of them together.
- The actual message doesn't have anything to do with any facts about what he said, it's more just that he thinks it's a "really big bomb" to drop.
  The actual message is just "I am turning against this guy in a way that I think is a big deal so anyone who has more loyalty to me than him should know that you have to pick a side now."
  It's a really big bomb for Donald Trump to see that Elon is taking staking a position.
  
  He's playing the Qanut card. trump has been told that's his card. It's gotta hurt.

Holy shit, its real.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1930703865801810022

And he didnt care about that fact until after he wasnt getting what he wanted...
- Typical divorce mindset.

Damn please tell me this is a real tweet, I’d love a good pyrrhic victory for one of these two assholes
- I just had to check myself, apparently it is:
  https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1930703865801810022
  
  Better link
  https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1930703865801810022
- I personally made the screenshot. It is real and it just happened.
- It is. He's upset about the spending bill and the national debt and seems to be going scorched earth on Trump and Congress because of it.
  
  Funny, he wasn’t upset about that bill nor knowing Trump was holding those files while he was working in the White House.
  But I’m just here sipping on some tea.
  
  https://xcancel.com/elonmusk lots more tweets
  
  My own personal conspiracy is that this is all for show. They realized Elon going full MAGA was tanking Tesla, so they're orchestrating a public spat.
  
  And now Trump is trying to get his government contracts cancelled.

Yeah obviously, but so what? The guy was convicted of 34 felonies and was still allowed to become president. Unless there's a consequence for any of these scum (and no, Elon losing some money while still having more than every single person on this site combined will see in a hundred lifetimes doesn't count) who gives a shit about any more proof of Trump's crimes?
- The only reason he hasn't gotten away with shooting someone on 5th avenue is from lack of trying.

"Bomb drop"... I'll take "no shit" for $1000, Alex.
- Look if people get upset about it enough to rattle their leaders into action, I'll take it.
  
  I'll keep on breathing while you wait, if you don't mind.

super excited for X to start algorithmically manipulating the idiot bizcels left on there into hating trump, fpllowed by trump outlawing X in the US
- What a stupid series of events where there are no winners.
  Btw, I'm saying the events are stupid. Not your telling of them.
  
  Civil war
- Truth Social will fight back by doing the opposite.
  Soon, dozens will be entirely anti-Musk.

In other news, Franco is still dead.
- His successors are alive and well, though, sadly. “Atado y bien atado” indeed. 😞
  
  I know, I know. I'm Spaniard.

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