Iran Strikes Back

Likud is the *left right of the governing coalition. They need regime change badly.

Edit: not the right of the coalation madly enough

Nobody said that.

WTF LMFAO. Iran is way closer to Nazi Germany than the British under Churchill which it doesn't resemble in any way.

Enough with two sides team based simplistic sense of geopolitics. Israel is a warmongering aggressor state who is attacking Iran, an autocratic theocracy that commits crimes on its own people on a regular basis. There is no reason two things can not be true and terrible at the same time.

Absolutely not. Iranians are celebrating the death of some of those killed in the strike.

Because Iran IS a war mongering nation. Just because they are the enemy of the people you’re Xenophobic about doesn’t mean they’re the good guys

They do not because do you know who overthrew the Iranian democracy in 1953?

From the genocidal Zionists which killed more gay people in one year than Iran since its inception.

Go simp for Zionists on Reddit.

...did I have a right to defend or retaliate after you guys wrecked my country and treated my people like scum?

Yes

Cause if so, death to America.

That was always an option, yes.

Iranian women are protesting and they want nuclear weapons https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QT8-500J7lo

Israel do not discriminate between a pro regime, an anti regime, a women, a gay etc when killing

I know nothing about defense and everything I learned, I did so at NCD, but doesn't Iran have like 88 million people and Israel just 9 million, and Iran has like six times Israel's active personnel? Iirc they're one of the largest armies in ME.

Then again, just by sheer numbers Russia was supposed to overrun Ukraine, 1M dead later and they're still where they started plus few towns charred to the bone.

This website

You realize Lemmy is a network of federated servers right? Like, I’m not on the same website as you but you’re reading my message.

It's not just their total disconnect from history (were they born yesterday?), it's their translating scorn for Israel's actions in the region to mean that Israel's opponents must be the good guys.

Iran has been under the control of two different mullahs for the last 45 years. Just because the Shah was bad doesn't make the Ayatollahs good.

Hamas and Hezbollah are literally terrorist organizations, and Hamas holds onto power in Gaza by oppression and violence. If they both weren't getting massive support from Iran, there might be a negotiating partner for Israel in Palestine like Arafat was.

Without Iran's support, Russia would be failing much faster in Ukraine as well.

They didn't say Iran was going to singlehandedly do it

Yeah the entire discourse about this conflict here is even more stupider than on reddit

Unfortunately it’s all feelings and no facts on this website.

Which social website do you know that is all facts and no feelings, please tell me, I wanna move there. And make it decentralized too, so no bozo can buy it tomorrow and make it shit too.

PS: got some quotes from reddit that show what people who think just like you think of other websites:

DigitalDash56 [score hidden] 2 minutes ago

Twitter is funny. Apparently Tel Aviv is smoldering crater and the state of Israel is a mere hours from collapsing

[–]tigernike1 [score hidden] a minute ago

That’s what Reddit says about Iran. Neither are true.

I don't believe anyone is saying Iran is capable of doing it, just that it'd be a good day when it finally does happen.

Israel has all the best toys from their sugar-daddy America. Of course a handful of out-dated Iranian drones won't do shit.

Look man, people just want to experience a little optimism and fantasize about good things happening in the world. We don't care if it is realistic or not. It keeps hope alive.

Better than being a hopeless doomer about everything.

Rant in agreement, not directed at you: I got banned from /c/progressivepolitics for sharing a dozen reputable links with the most obvious history of Iran in the last 50 years. Fuck Iran. Fuck their government. Fuck bigotry. Fuck classsism. And fuck you antisemites looking for any enemy of the Jews to cheer on. You're transparent, full of shit and argue in bad faith. Best case this place is flooded with Russian bots. You know, the ones pushing the Ukraine with the Jewish leader are the Nazis, Russians? And now the Jews, who Russians fucking adore, are the Nazis everywhere. Jfc. Clearly Israel's regime and Likud are fucking deplorable. Don't pretend you care about Palestinians more than an excuse to pipe up about the Jews. I fucking hate this site. I think I'm done. Siding with fucking Iran?!?! On anything?! The West should fucking level their nuclear infrastructure and pull a Nicaragua on their government if Israel doesn't succeed first. Fuck that shithole terrorist funding country. Bc we care about rehoming all the exiled Persians, right? Bc the migrants? Right? Bc we care about them no matter where they're from, right? So women can wear bikinis and get doctorates, right? So people can be gay and practice the religion they want, right? Disingenuous bullshit motherfuckers on here. Rot in hell you Nazi tanky bootlicking fucks and fuck you fake leftist preachy privileged little shits. Iran is not good. They have lots of enemies that are as shitty as them, but only the Jews getting you cheering for Iran. Read a fucking history book or a fucking news article from literally less than a year ago, and see who you're cheering, you ignorant cunts.

All empires eventually collapse, and an empire is like a large cake, most easily diminished at the edges. Israel will fall sooner or later, like the Crusader states and like French colonization in Algeria. It took 198 years for the Crusader states to fall, 132 years for Algeria to be liberated from brutal French colonialism. We may all be long dead when it happens but it will happen.

You fail to realize all of the countries Israel has been attacking working together, like how Germany fell. It's just a matter of time.

Anyways. You're free to leave.

Its crazy right? I'm so tired of reddit alternatives being taken over by lunatics. So tired man.

it's an excuse for extremists to indulge conspiracy fantasies and hate jews openly

Said the one supporting a terrorist state oppresing palestinians for 57 years

To all of their victims.

You’re downvoted but you’re correct. Iranians hate their government (rightfully so, it’s a repressive religious extremist police state) and will hopefully use the chance of a weakened Khamenei to finally overthrow the mullahs.

Yes. Iranians hate their government and want regime change, it's dubious wether this will help. Most likely it will be used by the regime for more crackdowns and cheap propaganda.

It is dubious wether bombing from afar can even achieve the stated goal (stopping the nuclear program). Hoping it will somehow magically bring about regime change is a stretch.

I didn't see any interceptions. Just flak going off hitting nothing but air.

it seems to me as if we're mostly seeing videos about Israel getting hit in the news.

That matters because it distorts public perception: It makes it seem as if mean Iran is bombing Israel, while in fact it is also true that Israel is bombing Iran. It's about proportional reporting of facts.

Yes please! I can't stand either regime.

Only both of those? Shouldn't the united snake and china both lose too?

Now do Russia and Ukraine

Israel, Iran, or the US?

The Iranian regime is fucking awful, the Israeli one is just even more awful such that Iran still seem like the good guys in comparison. Its like two assholes fighting, they're both assholes but one clearly started it.

We're not cheering for Israel

Lol you’re going to have to be more specific than that, it just sounds like you don’t like Muslims

Honestly no but if I lived in a country or bloc without nukes myself I'd want my government to get them because its the only way to not get randomly regime changed whenever the US, UK or Russia feels like it. Totally understandable why they would want them.

Was Iran actually producing nuclear weapons?

Do you really want Iran to have nukes though?

Iran has the right to defend themselves. Without nukes, they're going to end up like Iraq, Libya, or the countless other countries that Israel and the US felt like destroying. They're champing at the bit to smash Iran to pieces and it's not going to stop at limiting nuclear capabilities.

Hasn't Iran a religious edict stating they cannot build or use nukes? We could be in a iraki WMD phase again (expecting Powell's jar to appear any moment now).

If the country who drop two has it, why not?

Most definitely. I want every country on Earth to have their own nuclear weapons. It's the ultimate deterrent.

Funny how liberals never say this about Ukraine and Russia. It's only when non-whites fight back that they start bloviating about "both sides bad"

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

Ironically, many have tried (so now we know the result. And the proverb)...

This. People don't like it when I say the US is a Paper Tiger. uS power doesn't come from its military strength but from its economic strength.

If pushed hard, it would crumble. The only reason the US has military bases all over is to scare those countries into submission to exploit their workforce. Yet, all those bases are fucking expensive to just maintain. If those countries resisted, then the US loses its economic strength gained from their exploitation, and its military crumbles when it cannot afford to satisfy both it's military contracts and maintain its presence abroad.

Not to mention the internal turmoil when the citizens experience the affects on society when the oligarchy can't subsidize the consumerist lifestyle anymore. Thought that's happening already thanks to the imperial boomerang.

We both know it'll be residential areas Israel targets. They already blew up a residential area in Tehran in their first attack.

I hope america lose