US embassy wants 'every social media username of past five years' for new visas
The move has been heavily criticised by Taoiseach Micheál Martin who described it as “excessive”.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/457134
America is such a fucking joke it's no longer funny. I wish we could isolate the rest of the world from your madness but unfortunately we can't.
As a Native American this attitude would be a lot more understandable and palatable if America wasn’t colonized…
These immigration raids and terror tactics are terrible on their own, but it’s especially absurd when Native Americans get caught up in it, and it just fully exposes how disingenuous and transparently racist the whole effort is. So I’m sorry that your peoples have to suffer even more because of this racist mindset.
From a January article:
”If you can’t say, ‘we’ve been here for time immemorial,’ then you’re an immigrant. You’re not from here, so who are you to classify our Indigenous people? These lands have been a melting pot for many ethnicities,” Hatathlie [a Native Arizona state Senator] said.
I heard another more recent example of a car full of Native Americans being pulled over, aggressively questioned, and asked for their papers, but I can’t seem to find it. It’s utterly shameful how we treat people.
Of course, how would they know if you don't list any? Oh, that's right, PRISM. Fully expect that people who don't have social media accounts to get accused of having them simply because someone else shares the same name and did say First Amendment protected stuff, like Donald Trump is a terrible fucking president and should be impeached.
Sorry person with the last name Erdude. I guess you aren't getting into the US now.
I feel like I'm going to be responsible for Trump sending ICE to raid the Shady Pines community event planning committee that picks the color schemes for their weekly card games.
it’s ok. my married name is Erdude but we spell it E’Rdude.
I am a doctor and my professional name is Dr. ER dude.
Why does this make me think of Birdcage…
lmao, their tourism is going to shrivel and die so fast
The attendance for the next FIFA cup was already looking bad, and I can't imagine the US government wanting your history of online activity to help it even a bit.
I can't wait to see high attendance in Mexico and Canada-hosted matches, with rock bottom attendance in the US. Even US fans travelling domestically, don't go, especially to the states that are falling into line with Trump.
Not that it will actually be recognized for what it is. I may put together a bingo card on the ways media spins it.
Maybe that will finally kill off the giant amorphous blob of human rights violations known as FIFA
People should boycott it outright.
The entire event industry is a front for sex trafficking.
The last one was in some barbarian gulf state, now it's even worse. Fuck FIFA
It already is.. Many people from Europe I know, now cancelled their plans.
Here officer my username is ifuckyourmum69
Seriously, what’s the advantage of having social media? Just seems like a liability with every account.
Make a fake one that posts like... idk post random tech stuff that you could be reasonably interested in. Make nothing critical of authority. As a decoy profile.
Then you can rant about big brother on an anonymous Lemmy Account over TOR.
Finally a killer app for AI. Create social media profiles and use AI agents to populate them with bland uncontroversial drivel.
and then they check their palantir database and see your lying and throw you in a south american gulag
They want to stay by themselves? That's fine by me. But then they should also stop exporting their Hollywood and streaming turds (as well as their shit food). That would only be fair. And maybe also stop behaving like if they owned the entire planet?
Sure why not, since my name is Anthony O'Neill. You can find my short form username: Anon.
What could they find? I bet I'm save.
I'm betting on the opposite problem,
We show here you've been VERY active. Please have a seat in this chair until we come for you.
You can find my short form username: Anon.
What could they find?
Yes, what possible community full of people named "Anon" could they find that would get you in any amount of trouble?
👀
4chan. they call each other anon all the time
This is kind of stupid. I don't even remember social media tags I've used. Who would want to go through this shit to get into redneckville?
Exactly, they are talking about dozens of names. Who on earth would remember that, let alone want to share it.
This was explained to me years ago. They don't give a fuck about what you said. They want you to lie, in case they need to fuck you up. If for some reason they want to screw you, they'll look for these uids, and if you hadn't declared, they'll slap perjury charges on you.
in other news, the market price of hacked credentials for MAGA-friendly social media accounts:
Lol I don't even remember most of my previous handles. If amnesia isn't a valid defense I'm never getting into the USA. Then again, I have no reason to visit shithole countries in the first place.
Nobody can and that will be use to prove that you lie on the form if they need to find something on you in the future.
What if you don't have social media accounts?
Right away, jail!
That's even worse.
"quite suspicous what do you have to hide?" and then they smack you with batons arrest you and put you in jail with gang members muders and every evil and vile person
This is stupid. This will not stop spies and terrorists, they will just create fake accounts. This will only hurt legitimate immigrants.
Lol, now even the dumbest asshole should understand that they should cancle their US vacation...
My US visa officer: what do you mean you did not have 'social' media accounts in 5 years? No, these weird sites don't count. Underground terrorist? Straight to gulag.
I legitimately do not, and have never had, any of the usual social media. This lemm.ee account is the only one I have, and that's closing down soon.
However I would also never visit the us. So it's all a win/win for me.
I legitimately do not, and have never had, any of the usual social media.
"Well that can't be right. Highly suspicious. What do you have to hide?"
"What do you have to hide?"
Grizzly murders. Loads of them!!
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J/k. It's my privacy. All those horrific murders were really easy to get away with, keeping my privacy private however...
Good thing I delete that crap 10+ years ago. Enjoy the shitty data and memes!
Same, but it worries me that now I look like I'm hiding something.
I guess technically I am hiding something: It's disdain. Disdain for shitty social media is what I'm hiding.
Well, that’s one more reason to never come to the USA again
"Have you ever attempted to overthrow a government by force or violence?"
Non-Citizen MAGAt: sweats profusely
"Why? Is the CIA hiring?"
No, we were actually liberating it from oppression.
I don't think that matters.
It doesn't matter if you are trying to overthrow, say a US Adversary like Russia or China, its still counts. I guess the logic is: If you are willing to use violence in [Insert Country Here], how do we know you wont try it here?
A lot of the initial supporters of a revolution/coup gets purged so they don't become a threat to the new authority themselves. Like hitler and the S.A. for example.
MAGAt supporters are just useful idiots, if they successfully fully take over, those same supporters now become the new threat that needs to be purged.
The username requirement isn't anything new; that requirement was on our DS-160 years ago.
The "wants people to set their social media profiles to public" isn't quoted, so seems less like an official policy anywhere and more like one embassy worker being a prick. Unfortunately, each individual embassy operates independently totally devoid of any accountability.
This process is dehumanizing, inefficient, and totally fucked...but this particular part of it has been this was for a long-ass time.
Quoted here https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/47068548
Fair enough, though that's an ask from the State Dept., not a demand from the embassy, as indicated in the OP. It's an important distinction because the embassy holds the authority at that point in the process. They can ignore the guidance altogether or demand everyone open their profiles. They're probably more likely to do the latter now, but they could've done this two years ago too.
Demanding the usernames for the past 5 years and being suspect of anyone not on social media isn't a new, that was my main point. I don't think many people appreciated how shitfucked our visa processes are, even before the current "administration" helping.
I mean they make you sign away your rights and tell them if you’ve ever been affiliated with any one who was in or if you joined a communist party. So this is just another layer on the shit cake.
Ideologically unaligned visitors need not apply. Got to keep America pure, without the pesky freedom of subversive thought.
It's a chance for everyone visitors to practice right think.
While looking for a link, I found links that make me think some folks are trying to unironically reclaim the term "right think". Gross.
Too many people aren't reading 1984 anymore, while billionaires thought it was a "how to" guide.
Just don't wait to ask Grok what it thinks "Right Think" is, as Musk plans for it to rewrite human knowledge and understanding with a new lens. :')
hey turns out our tech oligarchs are the ones spying on us and not the chinese, what a twist!
It's both.
I can wait for @SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com to share those moths post for his embassy appointment
Also the only way I can be stopped from posting moth
Guess I'm never entering the US. 😭😭
(Pretty damn lucky if you ask me)
"I don't use social media"
Lying on an official document? Straight to jail.
Didn't actually have any accounts? Believe it or not, straight to jail.
It doesn't matter anyway, there is no rule of law in the united states. You might as well lie, they will likely jail you no matter what you write on that document.
Just don't go there.
Holy crap. How is this even real?
This is why I’ve already deleted basically everything, social media is a cancer that pushes us further and further apart and replaces meaningful interactions with vapid and shallow counterfeit interactions, it’s a net loss for anyone using it at this point.
Meanwhile, you post here :P
"I am very intelligent."
And soon you will be deleted due to lemm.ee closing
I barely remember this username and I'm looking at it every time I post something.
welcome to Autocracy ladies and gentlemen, sit back, grab some popcorn and pay attention to your neighbours, some might start dissappearing soon
dont threaten americans with what they want and voted for.
football selling out to Qatar who use slave labour and stone gay people to death, now US who hate foreigners and will detain you at random, and being in 2034 in Saudi Arabia, who also hate human rights is just the icing on the cake. I wanted to fly to the US for the world cup, but fuck that, fuck Trump and his cronies across the globe
Who TF wants to set foot in that shithole banana republic anyway?
Stuff your visa, and return the favor and stay TF out of other people's countries.
That would be a welcome change.
Going there with a crappy handwritten letter including all 40’000 throw-away users I ever created
/s
Good luck. NYS couldn't even keep track of this requirement just for CCW permits.
But sir, the form only has space for four!
Oh no, I might have to lie to the government
Does Lemmy count?
I haven't get my #viss, but since last year I was thinking about it. With these news and for what you see from the #USA, there is no way that I'll throw myself into that humilliation
Oh well, I wouldn't have been welcome anyway, seeing I've had the audacity to be critical of Israeli genocide defense, TACO and Daddy Put-it-in.
Guess I'll go spend my tourist money elsewhere.
Guess I'll go spend my tourist money elsewhere.
Great decision
I'm a Small Government Republican and I FULLY support this FREEDOM! If you WANT to Come into our Country you have to RESPECT OUR CONSTITUTION (which means you ARE allowed to Shoot Up a School but THATS IT!)!
How many schools are allowed per person?
There is no limit to freedom!
Oh look, fake social media accounts used. Fantastic. No gaps here!
Or create fake profile with trump positive post, but no history probably suspicious.
Or even buy a fake age profile…that is going to be a business
Don't post trump positive stuff at all. Just post cat videos of you want to make a fake account and add content to it
No more bot farms needed
i mean just say you don't have social media it's not like they can access private social media databases
They can in fact access private social media databases.
Of lemmy.zip?
I don't have any