It is what it is
It is what it is


It is what it is
Wait... people actually think that incognito means that they don't record your searches??
I thought everybody knew that all incognito does is preventing your searches from showing up in your search history.
Did anyone actually think that these big tech companies would willingly give you an option to keep your searches private from them?
Hello????
Always assume that everything you do online is being recorded and seen by someone. Unless you're a master computer wiz or whatever the fuck they call it these days, ALWAYS ASSUME YOUR ACTIVITY ONLINE IS PUBLIC.
This is the consequence of wrapping everything in glossy plastics and dumbed down UI for decades. People don't want to learn, and even if they do it's all hidden away behind blobs and bloats.
People mistaking incognito mode for a VPN or Tor.
Exactly. My understanding is that you use incognito mode if you don’t want the browser autofilling pornhub.com when you type po in the search bar.
Cmon if you use tor to search about cookie recipes then you are ill, Schizo
Healthy people use tor to hire hitman on their boss after boss fired them, or a hacker to doxx the jerk that downvoted them
So this is why the weird shite I look up in incognito comes up when I search something without incognito mode.
People really need to learn about VPNs and advertising ID numbers and also how your ISP is selling your activity
So that's why I got advertisement for weird sextoys on Wish...
No thats because of the dream monitoring. Don't be silly.
I don’t care or think they didn’t track that, they don’t ruin my algorithm with those searches which is all I really care about.
I basically just use it to look up whatever new crazy person my whack job mother was sending me some antivax propaganda from to confirm they’re the type of quack I assume them to be.
"He's the one who knocks!"
Incognito was never about privacy. It's about hiding your seach history from your parents or partner or whatever
For buying gifts, for example.
That's adorable.
Or masturbating to pornography
and i'm pretty sure the browsers have been quite explicit about this for a long time now, but of course no one bothers to read "This won't change how data is collected by websites you visit and the services they use, including Google."
It's as far as I remember literally always said it's basically just turning off local history, and not for true privacy. The wording has changed over the years and frankly only become more explicated and clear about that fact.
This is a rare case of google NOT being the problem here. People are misusing a tool that has always been honest about itself.
I don’t believe for a second that they are actually going to delete any data they stole from users.
Oops offshore backup mysteriously occurred.
Of course they will! First you make a copy, then you delete the copy. Contractual terms satisfied.
The raw data might be purged but no one talks about the ML modal that google trained with that data.
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To be fair nothing was stolen, the lawyers even admitted as much.
This is a user error problem caused by the moron in a hurry problem.
The warning on incognito mode both before and after the change was very explicit that it was local only. It was intended for people sharing a computer, not for privacy to anything you searched, external websites, etc
Below the warning even had examples over exactly what was and was not saved with it explicitly saying that external websites would be able to track and save your data including Google.
The change was to add that warning list to the initial warning itself because Google had assumed people would read the entire page. They did not.
Which means that those morons in a hurry who only skimmed misunderstood what incognito mode was for. Did not read the use case, the warning, the TOs, the manual, or any other information provided both explicitly or implicitly.
Hell even parted the argument of the lawyers was that this is a user issue and that Google had a responsibility to prevent people who were ignorant or in a hurry from misunderstanding. And while they made a good faith effort, it could have been better. Google being the large company is taking the fall for this more than anything but it is at the end of the day a user issue.
Incognito was literally only good for opening a second session without you logged in. It did zero for privacy. Even their disclaimer said so.
Incognito, you mean porn mode?
Its a moot point once you sign into your Facebook account to "share with friends"
firefox containers are amazing for this
Firefox -p "Spanky"
Except it only keeps cookies separated, history is shared over all containers.
Incognito/Private Browsing came about when people were sharing computers more often. It doesn’t save history and cookies and whatnot on your device. It’s to prevent the next user from getting in to your bank account.
Google and whoever else will still know your IP and can use that to cross-reference whatever other data they have on you.
I use private, because I am a tab hoarder
You guys are still using Chrome?
Incognito mode was always just to hide your local browser history. Think Google would NOT track you?
Do you have Google maps? They know where you are at all times.
Do you have a phone? They know where your toilet is
The know when I'm in a theatre and automatically mute my phone. Admittedly convenient, but also super creepy
User visits Google (logged in)
User visits Google, without cookies, but from the same IP, same user agent, same resolution, same OS, same enabled plugins, same browser version number, same fingerprint (based on al the previous information).
Google, who could this possibly be???
You mean...they know I typed "boobs" into the search bar that one time!? NOOOO!!
Do you have Google maps? ANY UNMODIFIED GOOGLE CODE OR ANDROID PHONE, TABLET OR CHROMEBOOK IN THE HISTORY OF FOREVER?
Then they know where you are at all times. I bet the Pixel users get gold stars. Oneplus have little pluses and custom rom users have 👀.
Oh no! Anyway
Naming it incognito was a mistake. It was always clear to me all incognito is, is a non persistent container to keep your browsing data separate from your regular browsing data. All its hiding is your porn browsing habits from your mom. But of course, the name implies much more.
Good for testing instead of "clearing cache and cookies"
Not a mistake, intentionally deceptive
There were memes about this what feels like at least 10 years ago. Makes perfect sense when you think about it.
from your mom
...did your parents not have friends set up packet sniffers?
“Hey, so now that Chrome has been released, we’re gonna fly up to visit your son and install a packet sniffer on his network!”
Some ones been caught with his pants down 😏
hey before they do that, can i look through their files on me? theres some porn i havent been able to refind anywhere
Wouldn't that be amazing! I have single frames of good videos stuck in my head that I can never find again.
There is a r/tipofmypenis for that
Maybe someone knows a Lemmy alternative
You’ve gone Incognito. Others who use this device won’t see your activity, so you can browse more privately. This won't change how data is collected by websites you visit and the services they use, including Google. Downloads, bookmarks and reading list items will be saved.
Google Chrome
Ah, good find. I just assumed it would have been explicit about it from the start
Man, even then it was clear what it was doing, are they supposed to list every single website you visit that might track you?
Um was this surprising to anyone? I think we all assumed that this was the case no???
Doesn't it specifically say on a new incognito tab that this doesn't protect against sites or service providers from gathering information....and only stops you from storing local information (history, cookies, etc)? Do people actually think that incognito is adding privacy protection?
That was actually a result of this issue, where Google placed misleading statements in incognito and then proceeded to actively go around them.
It has somewhat of a privacy protection because it's incapable of keeping cookies. The bar is in hell, but it passed it.
Maybe I read it wrong but (to me) the meme makes it sound like Google's taking the local data (that's supposed to be forgotten, once you close the browser window) and sending it over to Google for them to, I dunno, run analysis on.
If they're saying that Google sites (like YouTube, Google search, etc.) were collecting data when I visit them (as, unfortunately, sites do), then I'd say, "Well, duh;" but this makes it seem like they were exporting your local data off to their cloud which, like, they could obviously, technically do but wouldn't very much be in the spirit of how Incognito mode was portrayed.
I think the techno illiterate boomers of the fediverse are probably flabbergasted
wtf was anyone expecting
If anyone thought that Incognito somehow protected their data from websites or services, then that's their fault for jumping to that conclusion in the face of everything saying that's not the case.
Also...
In lawsuits settlement
In meme sentence, words disappear.
That was actually their lawyer's argument, that "incognito mode" being private was just something people assumed and ran with, not their fault.
I mean, they called it "Incognito".
Incognito: having one's true identity concealed
If it doesn't conceal your identity, then that's pretty clearly misleading. They're not selling to experts, the users of this are laypeople. It's like if you sold a "waterproof phone" and the packaging all made it look like it could withstand water, but then when it got wet it broke and you were like "people just assumed it was waterproof, it's not our fault".
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Sure experts could tell, and enthusiasts would read the expert opinions on it, but that's not something you should expect of laypeople considering how it is presented.
Well yeah, that's the only possible argument that the lawyer could even have.
I haven't used Chrome in years. Brave and firefox, that's my crowd.
Brave is also Chromium.
Correct. But it is not the same.
Firefox is also a web browser.
Oh sorry, I thought we were making meaningless comparisons.
Next headline: Google promises to delete the Firefox private window data they keep about you
Firefox's main funding was from Google being their default search engine. Which of course means anything searched in Google (via the URL field) is recorded to the external IP address logs. So unless you are going directly to the website or changed the search engine in Firefox, yes Google was recording said information (or at least compiling the numbers for data analytics) to use for advertising purposes.
Which is why i don't use safebrowsing but rather a separate profile located (--profile
switch) in XDG_RUNTIME_DIR.
Librewolf
same i use Librewolf nowadays
I use chrome once or twice a year, when I need to figure out if a website problem is my browser or the site.
Ironically, I use incognito for that.
The Google Incognito tab in any browser clarifies that while it prevents your browsing history from being saved on your device, it does not make your browsing completely private.
Websites you visit, your employer (if on a work network), and your internet service provider (ISP) can still track your online activity.
Hell it even has a link that leads directly to the privacy policy
https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/9845881?hl=en-GB
The only thing that shocks me is that no one ever reads it
I need to check into this, but maybe someone knows.
I assumed that if you're using incognito and you don't sign into your Google account, the activity wouldn't be tied to your Google account. It might be recorded and sent to Google, but anonymously, unless you signed into Google/Gmail/YouTube/whatever, while incognito.
The obvious is that your activity wouldn't end up on your Internet history in your non-incognito Chrome.
This was silently changed it used not to have the disclaimer sentence
Incognito mode (Chrome) and Private mode (Safari/Firefox) and InPrivate Browsing (Edge/IE) have had disclaimers/explanations for years, Chrome just expanded the disclaimer after settling the suit. Unfortunately for them the judge didn't know how the internet works any better than the plaintiffs. Winding back the odometer on a car doesn't mean toll roads don't know you drove there, it just means "you" have no record of it.
Opera / Vivaldi offer an integrated VPN, but they're about the only ones other than stuff like the Tor Browser.
Silently? It's been available for developers since January 2024. Major antivirus and security websites reported on it since then, to count:
https://adguard.com/en/blog/incognito-mode-disclaimer-change.html.
It's been widely reported at least since March 2024. It's been well over a year since that
Hell even this meme is outdated, as the settlement is widely known since April 2024
So I wouldn't get why freak out like after a year?
Glad I don't use Chrome lol
If you care about your privacy, don't use products from a company whose entire business model is built on invading your privacy.
Things do the opposite of what their name says they do. We've been in 1984/F451 bizarro world for a while, now.
Go to the website directly! Porn hub is not hard to spell! I spell it all the time even using no fingers at all!
This doesn’t change much if you use Google’s browser
No no, they said directly. No browser.
I spell it all the time even using no fingers at all!
Incognito was never about hiding your data from Google, it was always about preventing random websites from getting your data
It doesn’t even do that. All it does is prevent persistent data from being stored from the browsing session (so, no disk cache or browsing history).
Except the part where all incognito tabs/windows share the same session.
From day one it is explicitly said it doesn't do that. It's literally always been on the main blank tab page right below the warning over what it does.
How they even had to update the wording because of all of this because people didn't bother to read three bullet points
Am I the only one who only used incognito by accident when intending to select "open in new tab" from the context menu?
I use it to access the same site with different logins at the same time, or to let someone else log in to a service temporarily using my device
If this is something you do often, you might consider Firefox with the multi-account containers extension: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers
It allows unique/isolated profiles on a per-tab basis.
I've found it great for work, for the many things that require me to be logged into both the me@example.com and me@example.onmicrosoft.com accounts simultanously, to manage MS 365 things. But restricting social media to an isolated profile, multiple Google/Microsoft/whatever accounts, these are all possible.
That's literally the only time I've ever used it. Knowing what it is, I don't even need it. I have the settings set to erase all my history and most other stuff upon closing the browser. Which is exactly what incognito mode does, but temporarily for a single tab session.
It's great for testing a site when you're not sure whether the issue is because you're logged in or there's some cached data.
But they still won’t they’ll just make a more hidden copy
They are fully capable of extracting profile data from you even if you're in incognito/private mode. And it doesn't matter what browser you are using. My colleague was demonstrating techniques to do that with methods he personally figured out in one day in a hackathon in 2015.
Google has been actively researching and developing such techniques about as long as they have existed. I find it improbable that they would actually delete this data.
yeah im part of that class action and i get so many text asking about it
It’s Google. If you are shocked by this, you deserve to be tracked.
That's called victim blaming.
But yeah. I really hope people stop using Google products. Google is evil.
That's called victim blaming.
Be an informed consumer or a sorry one. It's anyone's choice.
or not, buy another Mypillow or Nintendo product since you're all gluttons for punishment.
To be fair it is in this case the victims is more at fault then not for misusing, misunderstanding and not reading the terms of service or explicate use case.
Like this would be like getting mad at your doctor for keeping notes over you and sharing them with other doctors. But not your random friends or strangers.
Incognito mode has said it's always been local privacy only not that it doesn't track or record you, nor prevents others from doing so.
It's just turning off history basically.
Putting the burden on users is a very Google thing to do, my dude.
That's simply not true. People can't be expected to know what's going on under the hood of services designed specifically to simplify things for non-technical users and conceal what's under the hood.
Then don't allow them to use those services without a license. It's cars or chemicals all over again.
This is more about knowing Google is an advertising company and makes money from selling your data. Than it is knowing how the application works and what it does under the covers.
No, not really. There are low bars; this isn't one of them. This is not something I expect average people who aren't into technology to anticipate. Nerds like me, yeah. But not the public. Though we're getting to that point.