Great plan
Great plan


Great plan
Our European counterparts are laughing at us, who don't take a month off every year. And for some reason, this is how I see them doing so.
Eh. In practice, we're fairly abused as well. I may have more holidays than my US counterparts, but in reality I can only take vacation when the schedule of the company allows it, which is never more than a week at a time at best and like three days in a row realistically.
Depends on a country of course yeah, my home country has a law that forces us to use continuous, uninterrupted, 3 week vacation in a year.
That seems to be highly dependent on location...we also have to coordinate with the needs of the company where i live, however we are still entitled to minimum 3 weeks vacation during summer (june-august) and at least two of them back to back regardless of the needs of the company.
In my country you get almost 1 month of vacation time with extra days depending on work (I work Saturdays too so I get extra 4 days because of it) of which it's actually mandatory that you take 2 weeks in one go so you really unplug yourself from work. The rest is as you please.
I'm not really a Marxist but I do believe in "Workers of the world, unite!" and that includes Yankees. Laughing at your misfortune because I'm getting fucked with slightly more lube would be kinda short sighted.
Laughing at your misfortune because I’m getting fucked with slightly more lube
i should not have laughed so hard at that.
I am indeed laughing exactly like that
Tell me you’re not in Europe without saying you’re not in Europe
I mean continuous 3 month vacation is not a thing, even in Europe
If you work in education it sort of can be.
I get that it's fun to dunk on us Americans, but do you really have 3 months paid time off from work every year?
No. Minimum by law in Germany is 20 days paid vacation and depending on the employer you get additional days.
Was going to comment the same thing 😅
I'm in Europe and I feel the same way as op.
I live in a Scandinavian country. 6 weeks off with pay is alright. Dont really need more at this point.
Fuck that. Take as much time off as you can get.
Yeah thats how you break socialism. Take as much as you need not as much as you can take
Cries in United States
Am Swede. I have a legal 25. Then my company gives me +5, and the Union has negotiated 9 more (ark) and then, this year, my boss gave me 5 more. So I know that I am far above the average in sweden, but I currently sit on 44 paid vacation days a year
Nah dawg.
We're all going to work until we're so old that when we retire we don't get to enjoy what's left of our lives. Instead we'll get to experience non-stop health problems, hospital visits, surgeries, daily pill schedules you can't skip or you die, and general exhaustion.
Literally happening to both my parents exactly like this.
And that's if you even make it to retirement, which I've personally witnessed a few people not do.
It's a scam y'all. Dipshits floating around on yachts while we die working. Wanna fix it all? Gotta get together, hold hands, and have a general strike until our demands are met. Totally possible, but not going to happen.
Gotta get together
This is it. This is literally the secret behind which Utopia is sealed. There are so, so many decent, empathetic humans that we could easily banish the narcissist, malevolent dipshits that make earth hell from our society.
Problem: even "good" humans have their flaws baked into their genes and brains, we are far too easily swept up into a a "us vs. them" dynamic. The only way of fixing this is to manually control your emotional behaviour and correct yourself constantly. Don‘t exhaust yourself with that, but try to remember what you really value before becoming a puppet for people with bad interests.
I don't expect to retire.
I'll probably be found at my desk on a Monday, not even first thing, but like, at 11:45, after dying there sometime Friday afternoon, and people just thought I was "working late" and left for the weekend, while I'm a literal corpse.
Whatever. I'm over it. I won't have any fucks left to give when that happens because I won't be alive to give any fucks.
The Economy* demands that you sacrifice yourself.
*Really the rich parasites demand it.
I worry that even if everything was right in my life it still wouldn't be enough. Passion has become so rare.
Universal basic income could help us achieve this. There are people working right now to make this a reality in America
There was a time back when this was possible.
Bikers back in the day would work construction or some other hard labor for half the year and then hit the road for 2-4 months.
The partial working income was enough to cover all thier bills, the bike/gear, motel stays and drinking.
People still do this. I have a buddy who only works 3-4 months a year. Hes a pipeline welder so long hours and hard work, but then he travels around the rest of the time
the retirement goal is to be a year round camp host for the park system. I'd say national park, but my favorite is a state park and i don't expect the US national park system to exist in, uh, carry the two, 2065 when I am finally allowed to either die or retire.
I kind of do this. I high rig for concerts in the summer, then fuck off the rest of the year.
In controlled environments, maybe — however those controlled environments still interact with currently established economies.
I'm just not convinced that UBI scaled up will actually result in anything other than what takes place in the Expanse.
They stole our data to train AI. So, if in the future that robots displaced the vast majority of jobs, then tax the robots to fund UBI.
I think it's less the interaction with currently established economies and more that it would never pass without lobbyists Congressmen sabotaging the law to make it fail and then using that to say, "See!? UBI doesn't work (when you set it up to fail)!"
Got laid off a couple of weeks ago, been chilling with my 6 and 9 year old niece and nephew, been going to the beach/pool everyday. It’s heaven (need to get a job though).
I have 7 weeks of paid leave yearly to use as I please, however, my autism makes taking more than two weeks of pause together a struggle. I need my routines, even the work one. I found that taking small breaks of 2-3 days often (save for the 2 weeks I take in summer) works much better for me than taking a long pause. Longer pauses screw with my routines and they are actually worse and more draining than small and frequent pauses.
Of course this is because I have to work, if work weren't a necessity, I'd be perfectly well without it because I'd create routines to occupy the time I spend working.
:Cries in American while being laughed at by Spain and France:
as another user in the comments here put it quite well:
we shouldn't be laughing at the people in the US just because we're fucked in the ass with slightly more lube.
I retired 25 yrs ago and it's still not enough time to do all the stuff...3 months a year won't cut it 😁 Gaming alone takes a lot of time lol
We shouldn't be limited to a summer break we should do seasonal breaks instead. I would cover the summer season if someone else would cover my autumn or winter.
Actually, no. Not according to the research. (Which I can't find right now; just in a quick break.)
Essentially, somewhere (?) had the whole region take vacation at the same time, if possible. (Not essential services and obviously vacation businesses, lol). They found much greater benefits when there's a large chunk of the population all off at the same time, and makes everyone happier (even those who have to still work).
They think the reasons are twofold:
Sorry I can't link it, but something like "everyone who can be is off from July 15-August 15" would have big societal benefits.
We could have that and more, but the shareholders don't approve.
It would risk "our" wealth.
think of the economy! /s
This or 4 day work weeks. One or the other, or I'll do nothing and just accept it.
4 day work weeks or 52 vacation days per year as a minimum. You can either take one day a week and only work 4 days each week, or save them up and take a 10 week vacation.
One thing I miss about working at Amazon was not only the 4 day work weeks, but the fact that they handed out PTO so generously that you could literally call off one day every single week (or sleep in and come in late every single day, which is what I did), and it was absolutely fine.
But unfortunately I had to leave cause I got tired of the thermostat being set to 83°F, and the management who wouldn't lift a finger for anybody. Still, not the worst place in the world to work. You can just put on your headphones, load up a playlist of podcasts, and zone out for your entire shift. Not having to go through an interview process is nice too. Just show up, take a picture, spit on a sponge (they don't drug test for weed), and you're hired.
Norway is basically shut down for most of July 👌
Hey neighbor! Sweden too, need a few weeks to find that one sunny summer day
Summer is the nicest day in Norway 😄
i take 6 weeks of unpaid leave every year, additionally to my 5 weeks of paid leave. i can only recommend it.
There are not many employers that allow that in my experience.
There aren't many people I know who can't afford it, in mine
You'd have a revolution on your hands if hard working people suddenly realized what they were missing when the 3-month vacation is denied them the next year.
I can only hope that the US goes through a revolution in the near future. I'm so tired of hearing about how poorly treated we are compared to other countries around the world. American #1 my ass. The things that the US ranks high in are considered the worst things to be highly ranked in. (Unless you're a lunatic, dictator, oligarchy at wits' end, etc.
So... become france
I'm more for mandatory winter sleep.
Just implement both and let people choose between them.
Corporate: not a chance in hell. You’re lucky you get annual leave at all, if it wasn’t mandated by law you’d never get that either.
Hot take: tons of office jobs are super reasonable. Small to mid sized companies that don't do anything particularly exciting, where you can find a position where you play an important role in the company but someone else can take on the work you normally do when needed, or the work you do only needs to be done at certain times of the year. You can talk directly to the owner, or managers have leeway to handle employees schedules without a ton of oversight.
Talk to whoever you need to. Explain how time off is more important to you than pay, and how the company will still do well when you take extended time off. It goes 1 of 3 ways. They agree immediately - win. They want proof that your idea will work - so prove it will work, then win. Or they outright refuse or fire you, in which case you find somewhere else to work and try again until you win.
Yeah idk what jobs you’re talking about…every time I see posts from people complaining (rightfully) about the office environment it’s from big companies.
Small to mid: small company , small salary. And like…tiny progression opportunities lol. I genuinely don’t see how these would be better at all than corpos, bc a lot of small companies try to cram multiple jobs into one too bc they usually can’t afford to hire as many people as they’d like. Rare companies like what you described do exist though, just…v rare
Haha, nah, annual leave isn't required by law in my country...
Maybe if there were some way to organize and make demands against the employer.
Yep, this is the great adjustment america needs.
I'd be willing to work 14 hours a week voluntarily if i didn't have other responsibilities.
General strike lets gooo
If no one works summer how will Waffle House stay open
When people say "no one works" they always still want some people to work.
Who should tell the farm workers?
Who should tell the farm workers?
Let the migrant labor let them know, they'll keep the farm going while they're out for an extra 10% for the month.
Wait, The CALLED ICE?
Farmwork goes in seasons
You don’t say?!! Is summer an important farming season?
There’s enough people and money in the world that everyone could take 6 months off and we’d still maintain 90s levels of productivity.
I’d be fine with that.
I feel this so much. I just want to have a few consecutive months off in a row and then I’ll be good to go for the rest of the year
Still just posting whatever to meme communities, eh?
You're welcome 😊