Trump Says He’s Moving Forward With Ending Birthright Citizenship After Supreme Court Gives OK
The Supreme Court effectively blocked the judiciary’s ability to stop Trump from implementing a huge range of policies.
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If you end birthright citizenship, then nobody gets to be a citizen by birth. If you can't be a citizen by birth, the only way to become a citizen is naturalization. If the only citizens are naturalized people, the country is 100% immigrants.
And if immigrants don’t need due process and can be sent to concentration camps then it’s really easy to make anyone disappear
If immigrants don't get due process, then nobody gets due process.
You could arrest Bill Clinton and claim he's an immigrant. If that means he doesn't get due process, he can never prove he's not an immigrant, and so he's stuck in Guantanamo forever.
That's pretty much the plan imo
Boston witch hunt all over again.
If the only citizens are naturalized people, the country is 100% immigrants.
What do they think America is founded on?
A bunch of religous people who were welcomed into multiple countries but then got mad that everyone around them didn't belive in their exact same religon they did so they found a new place and committed some genocide before building up a mythology about how they had to do it in order to flee religious persecution?
A mix of first generation immigrants, 2nd generation, 3rd generation, 4th generation, a few remaining natives.
100% first generation immigrants would be a major shift.
This was initially what was Donald’s EO and such, but blue states (of course) noticed he fucked up (imagine having so much money and you can’t have a better team looking over your shit), that they had to change it.
Now it states that parents in the US legally can have a kid and it will be a citizen. But not parents who’s here visiting and such. But what if a mom is an illegal and dad is legal? What would the kid be?
But what if a mom is an illegal and dad is legal? What would the kid be?
How brown is their skin?
It's just the title, it even says in the article he would move forward with trying to redefine the 14th amendment. Basically it'll be if your parents are citizens, and your born here, you'll be a citizen. (My best guess)
I see, so he wants to change it to what it is already? Makes sense.
No, right now if your parents aren't citizens, and you are born here, you become a citizen. Say you come on a student visa, get pregnant your junior year and drop out of college to take care of your baby and try to figure out a life, the baby is a U.S. citizen. Very clearly as you can see that mother and child are a huge risk to national security. A person going to work and paying taxes while raising a kid and helping with the birthrate decline they supposedly care about is something we just can't have.
That student is the the worst of the worst criminal.
The only moral way to fix the falling birthrate is to outlaw contraception and abortion, increase economic desperation to create a surge of underemployed young men, and increase the amount of anti-woman rhetoric and policy in popular culture and government.
You see, an increase in unemployment leads to an increase in baseline crime statistics, and an increase in dehumanizing and hateful attitudes towards women increases the rate of rape, which is now harder to prosecute. Devoid of any options, the birth rate rises and in many cases women are forced by implicit circumstances to limit their lives in ways they would not otherwise choose.
It's a tactic explored by the Romanians, but it didn't pan out. Clearly they allowed too many exceptions for maternal well-being, birth defects, rape and incest.
Exactly, then you outlaw homelessness and deplete protection programs. This will ensure we can fill privately owned and operated prisons and use their labor to work the low paying jobs at a vastly lower pay.
Note from the article below. They claim "some of the most violent prisons" yet some of them are allowed to work 40 hours and some go home for the weekend to stay unsupervised. That doesn't sound like a very dangerous person... In fact why are they holding them at all. Commute their sentence to probation at that point and let them get paid the actual wage. It would decrease our prison costs, while increasing taxes paid to the government and economic gains. We need to rework the prison systems to rehabilitation with much earlier releases if they are deemed safe to be working around the non incarcerated population. After all they are only supposed to be locked up because they are "a threat" to to the non incarcerated population.
And yes, that chart says the highest minimum wage is .35 cents and hour for incarcerated people. 5% of the federal minimum wage that is unlivable.. meaning they can't make anywhere near the money they need to save up for a roof and transportation to a job if they can find one when they get out. Throw in that many prisons charge inmates for being there... They have debt when they get out they need to pay off, so their credit will likely be shot.
No .... Not at all. This is just straight fear mongering.
The alternative to birthright is blood right or inheritance right.
Which is what the majority of the world uses. It's only the America's that use birth right generally.
For the most part it's based on the blood lineage or parentage of the child. So regardless of where in the world you are born, or what borders you are in.
You get the same citizenship as your parents. Generally speaking, birthright citizenship has more issues and is more of a problem than the other methods.
Birthright is mostly used in the Americas because we were made up of colonies and for the most part you don't leave the country you were born in back in the day. Unlike old world countries.
You may want to actually look a bit more into this. It sounds like you only are reading the panic and fear-mongering headlines.
What Trump is doing is f***** on many many levels. But the problem isn't so much the ending of birthright citizenship itself. But the way he's going about doing it, why he's doing it and the lack of a proper replacement to a different system.
Hell realistically if things were done right with good intentions and through proper channels, switching from birthright to a different system could actually be and would likely be a net positive for America. Hell most of the Americas.
But instead we have a crazed lunatic doing it for the worst reasons and the worst way with no intent to switch to a different system for the betterment of the country.
But it's been a big problem with this topic that people keep mixing up moral versus legal arguments as well as just general fear-mongering versus actual proper reasoned issues.
This is all f***** and shouldn't be happening, but you need to call a spade a Spade or you only hurt yourself and your own argument
The alternative to birthright is blood right or inheritance right.
Which is a right based on your conditions of birth, and therefore a form of birthright citizenship. Both Jus Sanguinis and Jus Solis are forms of birthright citizenship.
