[Video] BBC cuts away during pro-Palestine musicians Kneecap. The followup act Bob Vylan invents a new chant on live TV

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The BBC are complicit in genocide by censoring the news in favour of Israel.

Israel is a murder machine.

Anyone got a video of the rest of this set? Searching for it just brings up page after page of genocide apologists getting upset over the warmup.
- Someone uploaded it to WeTransfer if you've not found it elsewhere yet.
  It's a great set. Big Bob spitting facts from top to bottom.
- BBC nuked the footage after they got the call.

Maybe it’s because half their raps are in Gaeilge or the BBC just didn’t check, but booking Kneecap and not expecting to hear something about governments and Palestine would be like booking NWA and cutting their mics if they played Fuck the Police.
Great job riling up the crowd for Vylan’s new chant there, genius move.
- Thing is, afaik, the BBC has nothing to do with booking the artists. They just broadcast the sets and hold them on the iPlayer for a month after. Kneecap (and Bob Vylan) were booked by the Glastonbury organisers.
- Lol they basically did that before. They booked Rage Against The Machine to play "Killing in the Name of" live. It has the line "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me" and they asked RATM to censor it while they played. The BBC was then somehow surprised when RATM didn't do what they told them. source
  
  i'm going to imagine him staring the BBC producer(s) dead in the eye as he sings it
- The BBC isn't booking anyone they're just covering Glastonbury festival.

The IDF is a terrorist organization. Prove me wrong.
- You know, at one point during this war, I thought, “they’re compelled to service, most of them probably don’t wanna be there, and we can’t hold them responsible for the orders of the state.”
  Then I saw some interviews with some IDF soldiers. Then I saw more interviews. And it’s the same in recent interviews: they are happy to be there, and they absolutely love genociding Palestinians.
  Fuck the IDF
  
  Even for the ones compelled to be there who have little (not no) choice, it doesn't mean the IDF isn't a terrorist organization. Other terrorist groups use force to get soldiers, yet we don't pull our punches calling them out.
  
  They aren't going to let you see the unenthusiastic ones.
  
  Even if it were the case that they didn't want to be there, "just following orders" is not an acceptable excuse for committing a genocide. The morally correct thing to do if you're compelled to service in the IDF is to refuse and face the consequences, because they cannot be worse than the moral injury of being tasked with the murder of innocent children.
  
  I still think it's basically brainwshing by government propaganda.
  
  There are older documentaries where older IDF recount war crimes and being proud of it.. this been going since the creation of this project .. the two main forces that created the IDF are UK Registered terrorist organization.
  
  If I was a news agency with an agenda I wouldn’t be broadcasting the interviews that are negative either. Those you will find on foreign TV channels, 10-20 years from now after those who are currently serving finish their mandatory service and immigrate elsewhere. Every once in a while some event happens which becomes difficult to cover up. Like the Pilot Letters from 2003 and 2023, but it is the exception rather then the norm.
  
  Brainwashed by religion and nationalism
- Counterpoint: The IDF isn't a terrorist organization; they're the Wehrmacht.
  
  I don’t know if that’s really a counterpoint. The Nazis started as a terrorist organization.
  And I’d argue that, based on available historical evidence, a lot of the Wehrmacht were fighting for Germany, not the Nazis (a subtle distinction, I know, but I think an important one in this context), whereas IDF soldiers, according to many interviews with them, are definitely fighting for both Israel and Zionism. I would argue that IDF soldiers are far more committed to their geo/sociopolitical cause than were the typical soldier in the Wehrmacht.
  The IDF’s fascist zeal is more akin to that of the SS. Although, as an organization, the US Department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement is far more similar to the Nazi SS.
  
  The wehrmacht had tons of people forcibly drafted into it from occupied territories like Poland or Ukraine. People who often defected to the allies to fight against them later on. You are thinking of the SS.

Brits are so fucking good at chants. Caught the quick rhythm and even the melody in just a bar.
- Irish too. The band they cut short just before this has songs that are quite catchy and the theme is ACAB

Not all heroes wear capes.
- Or shirts apparently
  
  Are you going to tell those abs they need a shirt?
- I'm not straight but dayum

I'll go check his songs now, just from that chant I can tell he has a way with music
- If you missed the 2000s anti war punk bands they deliver with a 2025 vibe.
- The band they cut off also has great music and are all about giving the middle finger to the man
- He’s a Man
- What's up with the stage name, though? Does he do Bob Dylan covers or is that just his name?
  
  Bob Vylan are a two piece. Bobby Vylan and Bobbie Vylan are the members. Often referred to as the Bobs. They make music that references deep social injustice issues within the UK. Kind of a mix between punk and grime.

Death, death to the IDF!

Damn tho, it catchy!
- You guys have sound? I can't unmute it in Lemmy, and directly on Imgur the unmute is grayed out.
  Edit: Hmm, works on Firefox, again
  Not the first time some media worked only in Firefox, but not Chrome. Embedded FLAC wouldn't play (despite it being supported), WebSDR audio wouldn't start, from the other times I recall.
  Again being reminded to switch.
  
  Very few things refuse to work on Firefox mobile. The one exception I've run across is trying to log into Google, which insists that I should use a 'compatible' browser. Like Chrome.
  If I switch what user agent Firefox is reporting so that it LOOKS like I'm using Chrome, it works perfectly, surprise, surprise. I hate Google.
  
  How have you not switched already?
- Double catchy! Catchy rhythm/rhyme and catchy message.

I can agree with that message

Cornwall flag
- I tried to search context on what that means but got fuck all except an excerpt on Saint Piran.

I get knocked down... I get up again

Oh, whoops. Here you go:
https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/37661027
Edit: original: https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/3bf38d29-c6d6-403d-9c72-14f7bd712764.mp4
- Your comment might be intended for elsewhere.
  But if you want to upload videos for Lemmy, catbox.moe provides free anonymous upload. Simply link to the video afterwards in your post, and it will automatically embed on lemmy as long as the link is directly to the playable video.
  
  I would be careful about anything with Hexbear on it, those fuckers are 75% bots and 25% "death to the west" extremists. They might even be using media to log IPs and de-anonymize users.
  
  I'm saving this comment to review later, when I'm more alert. Thanks!

Am I the only one who thinks this is a bit Nazi? Calling for the death of Israel seems problematic. It can easy expand target all Jewish people.
- You have it backwards. The IDF are carrying out a genocide. So an analogy to the WWII-era would be like if Cab Calloway chanted 'Death, Death to the Nazi SS' , and then you're comment (on our fictional 1940's internet forum) would say "Cmon guys, this seems problematic because it can easily expand to target all German people".
- He didn't call for the death of Israel.
- No, the actually antisemitic claim is that Israel and the IDF are representative of Judaism and/or Jewish people. They are fascist organizations and the conflation of these groups with Jewish people at large (a narrative pushed by Israel and their allies) is what endangers them
- The IDF is a military force actively engaged in ethnic cleansing and genocide. Israel itself is a colonist state that only exists thanks to constant violence threatened and perpetrated by its military and the US. It is not in any way antisemitic to criticize these entities up to and including advocating for their dissolution. Anyone who takes this valid criticism and turns it into "Jews Bad" is either incapable of understanding the complexity of the issues here, is a bad faith actual anti-Semite looking for an excuse, or has fallen for the ubiquitous state propaganda that has been conditioning this exact response.
  States and militaries are not culture. Nationalism is not identity. Fascism must be dismantled whatever form it takes.
- so if I say "death to Nazi's" by your logic, you'd have issues with that. Saying "Death to Nazi's" could easily expand target to all Germans, All white people, or hell at this point All Americans.
  see how flawed your logic is?
- They are just calling for the death of the SS and SA not ~~Germans~~ Israeli or Jews in general. Sorry thought this was 1933.
- 🤡
- No, you're not. This is generally classified as antisemitic. But for a multitude of reasons people don't care or even see it as a good thing. Reasons including:
  Decades of being told that there's always a good side in war (there rarely is, I can only think of ukraine in this century and WW2 in - the last century),
  being propagandized into warthirsty "patriots",
  being radicalized during covid,
  getting radicalized by (a)social media
  you get the idea

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