I'm something of a Joey myself
I'm something of a Joey myself


why's it so hard 😭
I'm something of a Joey myself
why's it so hard 😭
I think Joey would be much closer to the right pronunciation in this case.
I’m pretty sure ancient Greek didn’t have any concept of a “Silent Pi”. That leading “p” sound is supposed to be said.
It might be really hard for a native English speaker to say those two consonants together, but that doesn’t mean Joey is wrong for trying.
… although, I guess any pronunciation will be wrong because the actual name was “Πτολεμαίος”, so if you wanted a correct transliteration you would have to use “Ptolemaious”
Regardless, Joey is still closer to the correct pronunciation.
Πτολεμαίος
You can put it in google translate to hear a modern greek version of it. The P sound is there but nearly silent.
The "right" pronunciation depends on what you take for reference. If you're treating the word as an English one, the woman is right - English doesn't allow this sort of initial cluster, and spelling-wise it's well-established that some initial consonants are mute (see e.g. "knife").
And, if treating the word as a Koine Greek one... odds are both are butchering the word so much that [pə] wouldn't save the day. Even the man is likely pronouncing it as [pə.'tɒl.ə.mi]; the Greek word would be more like [pto.le.'mɛ:.os], or [pto.le.'maɪ̯.os] with a really conservative pronunciation.
@lvxferre @procrastitron As it happens, "Ptolemaois" is how the name is written in at least German, Swedish and Finnish, so speakers of those languages (Swedish and Finnish myself) likely pronounce it most correctly?
Never really understood why English insists of weirdly dropping the final bits of Greek and Latin names ("Plutarch" vs "Plutarkhos", "Justinian" vs "Justinianus" etc)
And they probably call it a Puhteradactyl
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Any it's the last frame an entirely different pronunciation?
I'm with Joey.
If you wanted me to pronounce it that way, you should have spelled it that way.
Just say it without the p
I raise you "gb".
I'd take [gb] and [pt] all day over [ŋθ] or [θɹ].
Unless you mean [g͡b] (the co-articulated consonant, often common in languages from West Africa). Then I'm saying noooope.
That's why I say helicotter.
Dollamee?