Half a million Spotify users are unknowingly grooving to an AI-generated band
A supposed band called The Velvet Sundown has released two albums of AI slop this month.
A supposed band called The Velvet Sundown has released two albums of AI slop this month.
Not to defend this garbage, but is radio pop music really distinguishable from ai slop?
People who actually care about music are not the target audience here.
I would argue it can be, even if it isn't always. I don't go for radio pop at all, but we can agree that it changes substantially over time right? Billie Eilish doesn't sound like Imagine Dragons, who in turn didn't sound like Britney Spears. New ideas are being brought to the genre and to popularity all the time, otherwise we'd still have Beatles soundalikes dominating the radio
I get not liking it, and there are some real clunkers, but I think you're dramatically underestimating the amount of craft and expertise that goes into some pop music.
That's less of a defense of AI slop than it is a condemnation of the entire music industry.
Human music, I like it!
I began noticing this on my discover weekly, some particularily bad AI slop was showing up (I listen to a lot of ambient) and that alerted me to audit the rest of my playlists.
Look for artists that:
Found about a dozen offenders.
Perfect description of Buckethead, if not for the "only post 2023" qualifier.
I had a copy of Giant Robot and Electric Tears back in the day and was thinking maybe there was a third album I was missing...
Reminds me of this story about how Spotify inserts crap so they don’t have to pay royalties
So people like LLM generated music, they just have issue with it not being labelled correctly.
This forum does.
98% of the planet couldn't care less.
It’s not exactly “slop” if people are listening to it and presumably enjoying it. That just goes to show it’s not AI-generated content in general that people dislike - it’s bad AI-generated content. If the content is good, people are drawn to it regardless of who or what made it - as it should be.
It’s the toupee fallacy: “I’ve never seen a toupee that doesn’t look bad” …except for the ones that didn’t look bad, and you didn’t realize were toupees in the first place.
It’s not exactly “slop” if people are listening to it and presumably enjoying it.
I don't agree with the logic. People listening to the music doesn't mean they necessarily enjoy it, just hate it enough not to skip, were at the skip limit for their free account, etc. People listen to ads too, and nobody enjoys those.
"AI slop" came into common usage with the onslaught of ai-generated articles. They only got so popular because somebody was out there clicking on them enough to generate ad revenue. It's a leap to assume that means they're reading, much less enjoying them. I think the same applies here, and "slop" is reasonable.
You're not really engaging with what I said. I'm not claiming everyone who listens enjoys it, just pointing out that some clearly do - and if enough people are voluntarily replaying it or adding it to playlists, then the “slop” label starts sounding more like prejudice than critique.
There's always filler and mediocrity in any medium - human or AI. We just don't call it “slop” when it's made by a garage band or a beginner solo artist. That word feels like it's doing extra work here - as if the low quality is inherent to all AI content independent of the end result. And that's exactly the bias I'm pointing to.
You can say it's “AI slop,” but if it passes for music some people want to listen to, then maybe it's time to reevaluate what that label is even supposed to mean.
It can be slop and people can enjoy it.
For example, I'll usually put something on for background music. Usually one of the lofi streams on YouTube. I'm sure that a huge portion of that music is generated, not performed. But I'm not really appreciating it as music, either. If I want to actually listen to music, I'll put on actual music.
It's not exactly slop if the pigs eat it is it /s
I get what you're saying, if people don't detect ai music it must not be so bad. But in the original usage of slop, pigs don't care, but humans wouldn't eat the food. Same here, just because some people don't mind doesn't mean others can't easily discern the difference
You could also make the argument that pigs would prefer better food if it was an option, but they have no choice, they're only given access to slop.
"Turing test" for music successfully passed, then.
This is what I've been saying for years now. Idiots are going to consume ai without knowing it at all. Sad what humanity will be in a few years. Even dumber.
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