The UK Stop Killing Games petition has reached 100.000 signatures
The UK Stop Killing Games petition has reached 100.000 signatures


cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/41402388
Please support the initiative of Stop Killing Games!
The UK Stop Killing Games petition has reached 100.000 signatures
cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/41402388
Please support the initiative of Stop Killing Games!
Both are past 100k now! I want to issue a special "fuck you" to all the idiot streamers that tried to kill SKG. And of course a special "go fuck yourself" to PirateSoftware and Asmongold for being fuckwit right wing tools for corporations. You have a special place in my heart as illiterate lapdogs to shitty corporations and right wing shills.
Asmonpoop is a moronic bum and people went from "this weirdo is strangely entertaining" to " let me hear what my moronic hobo-idol has to say about this".
It is a little bit like how people supported Drumpf as a joke first.
Pirate Software too.
They're both such idiot trolls.
Hold on there buddy! There's no reason to be derogatory towards hobos like that. I don't think I've ever been quite so offended on the internet as to have someone associate my good (user)name with the likes of Asmongold. If you don't bring that down a notch I'm gonna send the ghost of Woody Guthrie to haunt you until your dying days.
I know about PirateDouchebag, but I am not aware of Asmongold's issue.
I apologize but, let's say that I've living under a rock
Asmongold is a megaphone for shitty opinions. Like I posted elsewhere he'll change his opinion if he gets called out, but the damage was done when he put it on the megaphone in the first place. His take on the "never play defense" is to not have any actual opinions when confronted then just go right back to saying other right wing bullshit.
They tried to kill it? Really? Like, “we must stop this from going forward!” In that way? Why would anyone attempt to stop it?
I still think this is going to fail. But I’m not trying to stop it. I hope it succeeds.
I also find the debate bros involved to be annoying.
Yep they actively campaigned against the petition and fundamentally misrepresented it.
10 months ago PirateSoftware started a campaign against it starting here-ish: https://youtu.be/ioqSvLqB46Y
Also 10 months Asmongold did a react video that supported PirateSoftware: https://youtu.be/AhVsyhjcndw
PirateSoftware refused to acknowledge that he got several things wrong, and even refused to acknowledge it when confronted. He actively bans people with dissenting opinions in his stream so it wasn't surprising that he refused to acknowledge that he was wrong. About a week ago Charlie (aka Penguinz0) confronted him about it and he still refused respond to basic factual inaccuracies: https://youtu.be/6sJpTCitKqw
Ross did a video talking about the whole thing last week as well: https://youtu.be/HIfRLujXtUo
There's a lot more to it, but that's the broad strokes. I hope PirateSoftware's stream keeps declining until he is relegated to complete obscurity. Also, PirateSoftware can eat my entire ass.
I don't like Asmon but my understanding is he supports SKG. Am I wrong?
Also I saw a clip of SomeOrdinaryGamers, which indicated that he tempered his support with a dash of (wrong) both-sides-ism. But it was only a clip.
Asmongold does that. Like the dude doesn't have any real opinions other than what gets views. If he sees the winds changing he'll pull a 180 in order to take the heat off himself. He also has hoards of followers and youtube minions to make him seem far more centerist than he is. He's like the personification of the alt-right playbook for dummies.
I mean watch/listen to The Alt-Right Playbook series and tell me this is not what he does on a daily basis: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJA_jUddXvY7v0VkYRbANnTnzkA_HMFtQ
Keep pushing. There are probably people using VPNs to sign the petition and those will get purged. Either from idiots who don't know better or AAA studios trying to get people to stop now that it's reached the goal. This is true for both the UK and EU petitions.
The EU page started 404ing for me right when it should have hit 1 mil; are we being trolled?
Edit: nvm worked from desktop. Maybe just hug of death.
It is still getting hugged, I guess people are rushing to add their names now that it is a won battle.
Edit: managed to load at 999,614.
I am a little worried that some of the surge in signatures has been botting, but I sincerely hope I'm wrong.
Fell asleep, woke up, suddenly there's only 30k left on the EU initiative.
Now it's just 20k
Only 4K!
99.09%🙏🙏
Jesus what, a week or so ago this was dead in the water.
Nothing brings the internet together like hating a sexist self centered egotistical narcissist.
Seriously pirate has been an asshole for like 20 years. He's been banned from furry communities, kicked out of second life communities, rejected from eve communities.
Now people are realizing how much of a scum bag he is in the streamer community.
The only upside his asshole self centeredness has draw crazy attention to the partition.
I'm glad I'm not online enough to know of this guy!
Wait what's this story about him being banned from furry communities? That sounds like a really fun story to read lol
Who? I seriously have no idea who you're talking about.
I honestly think that the main reason this has kicked off is that up until about a week ago it wasn't really advertised. I didn't even know that it started the petition up again, I knew the original one failed because parliament closed and for some reason that meant the petition had to end.
Like the McRib and chlamydia, we're back baby!
Don't forget measles
SIGN THE PETITION DAMMIT
I American't sign European petitions
no worries, you can help as this will benefit you too. if you are on any online gaming comunities with Europeans, you can share the link.
The Islanders finished there's, but the EU one still has a ways to go!
946,944 currently, it's almost there!
Its going quite quickly now though! 934k signatures
Awesome! Now let's get the EU one as well, much closer than before now. (840'000)
5 minutes later and it's 843k, almost 1k signatures per minute, not bad at all!
This is fucking bonkers.
I ran the math a few days ago, before this absolutely blew the fuck up, and I came to:
We'd need 11k sigs per day until July 31st.
... We're now apparently at more than double that and climbing exponentially.
Ho Lee Shit.
God DAMN has it been a while since I've seen something go actually, truly, organically viral.
844k now. Wow. I wonder what caused the sudden surge? Or is it just that most momentum can be gain at the start and towards the end like with Kickstarters?
2 hours later and it's 860k.
What's funny about this whole thing is it's almost like PirateSoftwares days in EVE Online when he invited everyone to Pochven space cause he thought he was hot shit and then proceeded to get his ass handed to him and he rage quit the game. He brought attention to something that ended up having the opposite effect of what he wanted.
Granted he was absolutely shit at EVE regardless of what he's told his audience. couldn't fit a ship to save his life, ran for CSM and no one voted for him, then rage quit when everyone and even his own corp proceeded to kick his teeth in.
Haha, holy shit. Somehow I had never connected that Piratesoftware was Maldavius. Yeah, that explains so, so very much of this entire SKG debacle.
Wow, I hadn't even heard of that particular story of Thor being an egotistical asshat.
I'd been looking into the WoW debacle, then stumbled into other stuff, but nope, that one's new to me.
I was in his corp (my old one merged with his, I had no idea who he was for quite a while), and this... isn't exactly accurate. First, from what I remember, he left on okay terms with the corp.
There was a laundry list of issues with Pochven, a lot of them due to CCP just not bothering to fix issues that the players reported, and moving devs who did want to try and fix some of the issues to different areas of the game. It got to the point where it wasn't economically viable to live in the area, which reduced how many ships we could field, and the number of people even willing to join.
CCP also took forever to decide on how wormholes interacted with the region, and changed those interactions frequently. Some of these were great, for instance there was a point where most of the wormholes linked to wormhole systems, and it was a complicated (and dangerous) dance to get people in and out of the region undetected. CCP ended up going with the worst possible interaction: many wormholes directly linked to nullsec space, where massive alliances could easily find them and send massive fleets through with little effort.
He wasn't the only one to quit, to be honest I'm surprised he stayed for as long as he did given how he acts now.
Is Thor an egotistical narcissist? Absolutely. Was this a case of that? Not really
By the way, this is a statement he put out alongside the other two main groups in Pochven. I can tell you for a fact that 90+% of the players who spent most of their time in Pochven felt this move was absolutely justified*:
Edit* And the other ~10% disagreed with the destruction of the citadels, not the sentiment of the statement
The worst part is that this are far from the only two events. He has been kicked from several other guilds, for exactly the same narcissistic and egoistic behavior. If everywhere you go it smells like shit, at some point you have to start checking your own shoes. He is just always adamant that it's other people's fault that it smells like shit, when he has full diaper.
I dont get it, what's this got to do with the petition?
He was against it, which resulted in a lot of negative opinions about the bill and netting less votes because of it. It’s gone full Streisand effect.
PirateSoftware was critical of the initiative when it first started. Some people attribute its initial lack of success to his opposition.
He was later involved in some drama and his reputation fell, and the petition's creator finally addressed his claims. Now the petition is having a second wind in its final hour
Is there a clip of this somewhere?
WHAAAT LETSGOOOOO DABABY. Thank you PirateSoftware for the publicity :3
And fuck you too btw PirateSoftware :)
Is this about the WoW incident? Or dit something else happen?
Whats wrong with PirateSoftware? He runs a ferret rescue which doesn't claim any tax incentives and he teaches people about security and ethics, I've never heard of him having beef with anyone.
Don't stop yet! They might still remove incorrectly filed entries.
130k now with time left. I think we good.
Pedal to the metal on all fronts!
Peddle to the metal
Lol, nice pun, good one.
Keep going! Who knows how many signatures will be ruled as invalid.
great stuff!!!
Didn't it already reach the threshold last year and the government (or the civil servant in charge of rejecting every petition) closed it saying that current consumer protection laws already apply?
My understanding is that they misunderstood the petition, so this new one is rephrased in an attempt to avoid another misinterpretation
It was extremely clear what the previous petition was, it was just they weren't interested in doing anything so they intentionally misunderstood.
Is that why they left “from” out of the title?
Politicians seem very good at misunderstanding things when it suits them.
Fingers crossed!
They didn't close it. They provided an answer early. That as they see it, existing trade and consumer law should cover games and they don't plan on carving out extra legislation for it but they will "keep an eye on it".
Now it is over 100k, it doesn't actually mean anything more than they "might" debate it in parliament.
Now, don't get me wrong. I signed the petition, and I think they SHOULD look into it. But, my old cynical bones tell me that even if they do have a debate in parliament. It will be at a time when there will be 5 MPs in there, who will have nothing to say on the matter and it will be swept under the rug with a further canned statement drawn up by some civil servant in whitehall talking about consumer law just like the statement before.
Most western governments are on the side of industry, and that includes game developers. I cannot imagine they care about this subject and will do the bare minimum lip service to move past it.
I hope I'm wrong.
I do have a bit more hope for the European parliament. Just a little. They do seem to be a bit more pro-consumer. That is the one that matters most IMO.
I don't think you're wrong, and I think the EU petition will go the same way, but it's still worth signing regardless.
If the EU petition makes it, then it will provide the UK petition support too as part of whatever debate goes on about it.
Good job UK ! Now cancel Brexit and vote for the EU one !
The hostility from the EU about the UK rejoining (especially from France) tells me that's not likely to happen.
Good. States shouldn’t be able to just go out on a whim and immediately go back in again like it’s a revolving door. The consequences should be severe for leaving. Otherwise voters in other member states will pull this shit as well, because they think they can just rejoin when the next pro EU government comes around. Also many voters in the UK voted for leave as a protest vote not because they actually wanted to leave. They didn’t understand the ramifications of their vote. Let the UK be the example of what a protest vote can cause.
not quite sure how you expect to cancel anything which already happened
Can we do a stop killing children now?
Because saving video games and stopping the killing of children are mutually exclusive???
I didn't say they were. They are particularly useful for "hiding our heads" and forget about the shitty world. They play a big roll keeping me sane and I respect the art very much. I would just like to see the same kind of effort put into to it.
This is a EU initiative but you're free to create one in the US.
But they yummy
Watched this, was very enlightening
I knew once kliksphilip makes a video about it would be one of the best ones to communicate the intent of the initiative.
Heh yeah!
Hmmm? The UK isn't part of the EU anymore so they won't have much impact lol.
That's why it was a completely separate, smaller one
Just threw me for a loop for a moment that it uses the same name and that this page displays links to both.