Anyone who doesn't support the Trans Agenda(tm) is a fucking psychopath

I can't speak as to Polish law, but kids are allowed to do quite a bit before the age of 18 in the US. Going on puberty blockers - to delay a puberty that could damn well be an irreversible scar on the psyche - is hardly an opening for a shakeup of the legal position of minors.

Any transphobe I've had the misfortune of talking to has met a trans person. Most of them don't notice. One of them repeatedly hit on me.

I always equate these things just to human rights and the fact that someone is trans doesn't automatically negate their right to live or be happier or prosperous. The fact that they're trans should have no effect on basic human rights.

Most of them probably have, but didn't notice.

Idc about them existing. It's their choice and they have their own reasons which are not my business. Bullying them just for that choice is bad btw. However I do care about their communities constantly using their powers for bad (and often illegal) purposes such as harassment of religious groups. If that stops (and it won't) then we can talk about helping them. For now they look like generic gangs and should be met with high suspicion at all times.

the whole (he/him) in my email signature was a wild ride... like do I add it even though I'm CIS/hetero/boring? I see all the middle aged white women in my office doing it, and that means it's a few weeks from HR making a vague rule about it... I'm not conservative, but I don't want to be some fake virtue signaler, since I don't really know any trans people... but I don't want to give some kind of passive approval of intolerance by NOT adding it... will HR flag me if I do add it? or if I don't?

Lose the gun talking point.

Dems be Beto O'Rourke'ing every election

This is the moment that O'Rourke lost texas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMVhL6OOuR0

2nd amendment can serve an important purpose, kill traitors who are violating the constitution.

Unfortunately, dems managed to convince people left-of-center to disarm, while the far-right have become the majority of gun owners.

Thanks, Democrats. You did the job for the fascists.

Gun are great. End fascism where the idea begins 🧠 by using the 2A

You arent going to win any elections catering to 1% of the total population and alienating a large part of it. I would say that is just common sense politics at this point.

The what agenda?

Gentle FYI for you today, the term for non-trans is cis or cisgender. 💜

The vast majority of human history operated on gift economies. Oppressive systems of government (and governments in general) are much more of a recent invention in the grand scheme lf things.

If it's any consolation, psychopaths have suffered serious setbacks these past 500 years or so.

Well clearly it's my trans neighbor with no money and no power who is making me not have free healthcare, unions, and a house and not billionaires.

My trans is an automatic. It's fine, but I much prefer the manual ones with the stick I can really wrap my hand around and slide up and down and up and down........ and up and down.

They don't need pushed, or influenced, or anything other than a safe space to be themselves, and find out what that means to them. People who are atypical already have plenty of pushback from everyday society, I don't think we need to worry about making someone trans when they're not.

I have two young male children, who both prefer playing with girls to playing with boys. When we casually mentioned that some boys have vaginas and some girls have penises, they separately decided that each of them is, in fact, a boy who like to play with girls. Because that's who they are, and I doubt we could convince them otherwise.

It’s sarcasm. It’s mocking the idea that there is an official “trans agenda,” because transphobic dickweeds present us as having some sort of nebulous official Agenda. We are treated as a homogeneous group that acts together, with some sort of plan to do Evil.

It is a somewhat common practice to trademark a phrase you want to use for a movement, like "cruelty free" products, otherwise assholes could slap it on anything and it would loose all meaning. A trademark would allow you to enforce some standard to use the phrase.

Unfortunately, trademark can't stop people from using phrases like this in "noncommercial" speech. To me, it looks just like a request/hope people wouldn't use the phrase "trans agenda" to mean various bs.

it's not 2014 anymore. we aren't canceling anyone. we're getting canceled. JKR is doing victory laps. NHS has banned HRT for minors, as have 27 states. we're kicked out of the military, and forbidden from security clearances. teachers in Florida can't even use their own pronouns. Medicaid/Medicare/ACA funding for HRT for adults is stripped now. we can't get passports with the correct gender marker. Sarah McBride has to use the men's bathroom in Congress. Newsom calls us freaks. conservative media is calling us groomers and every time there's a mass shooter they spread the rumor the shooter was trans. "gender ideology" is the new Satanic Panic. NYT keeps running op-eds on why Dems should throw us under the bus. Nancy Mace shouted "tr*nny" three times on the House floor and wasn't censured for it.

you really think we're the ones holding the cards?

Another example is transition care for children. I believe that at a young age making an irreversible choice is dangerous and we should be careful.

... do you think transition care for minors is just handed out at the grocery store checkout or something?

"We need to be cautious!" would be much more compelling if the standard medical approach to trans minors was not already immensely cautious.

But unfortunately there’s a group of loud people who are honestly behaving like psychopaths who are making it hard to stay sympathetic. Wake up.

I dread to think of how quickly your sympathy would've been sapped for Black rights in the 1950s and 60s.

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/the-moderate-case-against-trans-youth

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/the-moderate-case-against-transgender

I should not have had to suffer through the first, wrong, puberty. I'm left with permanent scars, both physical and psychological, as a result. I'm not coming back to debate people who think thousands of trans kids should suffer the same way I did because one or two cis kids could be hurt. I damn near didn't survive and a lot of trans kids don't. Just dropping these links, I will not debate.

In regards to the whole trans women in sports thing: Sport doesn't fucking matter. Let them play their little games if they want. Discouraging young people from healthy exercise just because some bigots care too much about who wins a meaningless contest is ridiculous.

Wrong place wrong time.

You're vilified because you're acting like a villain. People don't want to debate your neckbeardedly presented well ahcktuallies while they're fighting for the right to exist.

We don't have this fight when it comes to other medical matters. Like if kids with cancer should get treatment even though chemo and surgery could have long-lasting repucussions. The alternative is they die. People who don't get proper medical treatment die. Trans kids die of depression and suicide without treatment. Those are real things, there are real risks to not treating a medical condition. It's not a matter up for public debate just because some dickwads are trying to distract everyone by making healthcare for a specific group of people political. It's medical, we have facts and data that say trans people need healthcare to support their transition to live healthier longer lives. There are fucking doctors out there with years of practice who say yes, these kids need medical intervention. And here you are bitching that no one will debate you in a place where, again, people are fighting to exist. And you're bringing up tired arguments because you gotta be that guy.

We have data on trans performance in sports and there is no clear advantage.

Besides, if you're a world-class athlete, you already have a way different kind of body than most people. There are plenty of biological advantages that are celebrated in sports rather than weeded out. Want to start making sure everyone is the same height and weight for every sport, too? Same lung capacity? Reaction time? Born in the same country? Live at the same altitude? Same race? If you want to get advantages, there are clearer divisions along racial lines than trans status. No, I don't advocate for segregation in sports because I'm not a goddamn monster of a person who can't think for two seconds about why that's idiotic.

Fuck off. Stop being a moron. Show some goddamn empathy.

I had to laugh at this ridiculous line from the opinion piece:

staff members had a dark joke that at the rate they were going, there would be “no gay people left.”

The whole idea that transition care is "getting rid" of gay people is ridiculous, I was into girls way before I transitioned. The other trans people I know are all extremely gay.

You are concerned about a child making a decision that they may regret... so you think the decision should be made for them?

What I have a major problem with is that voicing an opinion, or have any form of meaningful debate, is met with immense aggression, trolling, cancelling, intimidation

So, trans people, I support you to exist, be happy, live a meaningful life. But unfortunately there’s a group of loud people who are honestly behaving like psychopaths who are making it hard to stay sympathetic. Wake up.

"I get aggression and trolling"

"people being mean to me are psychopaths who make it hard for me to stay sympathetic to trans people"

This, so much. There're very real and important discussions in the medical field that (very candidly) go into these types of topics that become impossible to have (at least in the public discourse) due to these types of behaviours.

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Bash the red fash.

I think if you want to be fair you make a distinction about policies you support based on your pov and how you treat the people you come across in your life. That could also make a difference to someone. Preferably by letting them know you're ok with them existing without getting into a discussion about which policies you support and which you don't.

For example, I could feel migrants take away our jobs and tell everyone I assume might be a migrant about my political views. That would make me a lot less of a pleasant human being than if I were to treat someone I assume is a migrant like the people I assume are not. Because to those people I also don't start a conversation about how I feel about that.

I'm not accusing you of anything, but want to tell you that it is possible to come across people choose not to voice your opinion. Not just to prevent receiving that aggression, trolling, cancelling, intimidation you mention; but also because it might help someone feel relaxed when they're around you.

And it shouldn’t be political for people to have rights but here we are.

It kinda is if you start with the premise that Trans people have an agenda other than please let me exist.

Meme purest over here.