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“It’s over”: David Suzuki says it’s too late to stop climate change now and the damage is already done

sinhalaguide.com "It’s over": David Suzuki says it’s too late to stop climate change now and the damage is already done

NOTE TO READERS: This interview contains strong language and views that may be upsetting to some. The information presented here reflects verified, first-hand

And guess what ... most of the people who 'did what they could' just kept driving their cars. 'What choice did we have?' None.

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He is partly right. We're fucked. Seriously seriously fucked. He is also incorrect, in that without radical action to deviate from our current trajectory, it can and will get much much worse.
- Only one way that happens though.

This may well be true, or false ; it is a dangerous thing to believe regardless. It will always be better for the world to believe we can improve it.
- Oh sure. Belief is always sweet than science.

We’re on our way to more than a three-degree temperature rise by the end of this century.
Fwiw, I recently saw a projection that we’re currently on a 2.9° path
We passed the seventh boundary this year, and we’re in the extreme danger zone.
But that’s much scarier. These boundaries weren’t defined back when we thought it was mainly about temperature

This is simply inaccurate, we've already got scalable plans for a Snowpiercer system.
We'll get the numbers right though. ChatGPT is on it.
- PHew. I feel so much better now that AI's are working on the problem.

This is why the rich are trying to cull the poor. I'm not joking. What you see happening is very much by design, and the wealthy think it's necessary. They believe the most effective way to fight climate change is to get rid of all the poors and undesirables
- you're prescribing an insane amount of competence and forethought to a bunch of infantile psychopaths. I am absolutely certain not once have the thoughts of climate change crossed their minds, and the reason they keep slaughtering people is the same as its always been: profits and/or hatred.

I think everyone agrees.
It's now Us v Them. People need to start realizing that.
- I absolutely do not agree. Will things get worse? Yes, no sugar-coating it. But every fraction of a degree matters, and defeatism gets us nowhere. There’s still plenty to be done. So either get on board with helping, or stay out of the way, rather than trying to drag the rest of us down.
  
  Welp, while you're sitting around thinking about it, I guess everyone else has to scrap shit to live.
  Good for you in being neutral.
- I'm so scared how many people just keep on keeping on and have no cares.
- No fuck that. We're all in this together.
  Tribalism ensures everyone's defeat as the world burns
  
  Tribalism does't mean we should not fight and replace them. They will burn down the world but want you to suffer most and die first. They drove you into this for their wealth and economy.
  If you don't want to fight and replace them, then keep on recycling your plastic straws while fossil-fuel companies pump trillons of CO2 cubic feets in air and their execs and your government officals pump trillions of dollars, of the same money you work and pay for, into their pockets.
  
  Nah. Get lost.
- Who is them?
  
  billionares and super wealthy government officials and fossil-fuel execs who get paid too-much-to-say-no to burning the world with you in it
  
  Lookup fascism.
  It's anyone "they" convince you is "them".

Sounds.... Completely correct honestly.

So, realistically, what can a rando do?
- Nothing. It's not our individual fault. It's going to keep going no matter what you or I do (short of terrorism) until the whole thing crashes down around us.
  
  Corporations might be largely at fault but regular people can keep voting with their dollars. Corporations have to adjust to demand.
  Most of the top polluters in the world are fossil fuel producers. Want to slow them down? Stop driving ice vehicles, take public transit, bike, walk, move closer to work, or unionize and put work from home in your contract. Reduce in home energy waste, if you own a home: improve insulation, check heat loss around the edge of windows, look into solar panels. Most of these things improve you life anyway, lowering your monthly costs makes your life better.
  Lobby, get involved in your community, organize.
  While it's true that large corporations are major polluters, our continued actions (and inaction) give them the money and power to keep polluting.
  
  Sure but what can one tangably do? Go to areas that are probably going to do well (or just not terrible) in the coming years?
- If you have a lot of time and enough conviction:
  Lobbying, petitions, run a non-profit organization to do so.
  It takes a lot of time and it's frustrating, but look at what individuals like Louis Rossmann and Ross Scott have been able to pull off with Right to Repair and the Stop Killing Games Movement.
  If you don't have as much time:
  Donate some time to projects to help out. For example, take a look at some of the projects listed underneath "Climate" category on Zooniverse: https://www.zooniverse.org/projects?discipline=climate
  Here's a description of the project, "ClimateViz":
  Extract information from various climate scientific graphics to combat misinformation and support scientific communication
- Civilisation is ending, probably the whole of humanity and we will likely take much of the other animals with us. Humanity is an extinction event. Its all over but for dying now, just carry on living your life and just know this is it, we failed the great filter. We could have done something about this once we understood the problem from any point from the 19th century onwards but the failure of Kyoto agreement in the 1990s marked the point where we were always going to fail, it was the last moment where correction could save us. The last tipping point will happen in the next year or two and then a whole bunch more of unknown events will occur that we didn't even predict. The temperature growth will continue to accelerate.
  
  This comment could be from the future it's so accurate.
- We can do what we can do to stop making it worse. Work togetther to change our habits. Do what we can to make do with less and feel good about it. "Every dollar is a vote", definitely. Work with the people who know what's in store for them, like farmers. Skip a trip now and then. Use mass transit more. Keep improving our home, if we have one, so it's better-insulated. Use better options for heating (wear more clothes instead of burning more fuel) and cooling. Stop admiring consumption and buy lasting, healthier products. Walk away from wasteful consumption, the investors will turn elsewhere unless companies respond.
  We can keep in mind the world we're making, and how we will best to live in it. And become living examples of alternatives that are inevitable.
- Die.
- Look up the Earth Liberation Force and take their tactics one step higher

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pNYp6oc37ds&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD
- "Uhhhh would that mean ... I'd have to stop driving my car?"
- Toby was there to report on CO2 ppm levels reaching 400. They are 432 this year.

"It seems that we live in a very dark time, and we do. The human race has been on a very destructive path for quite a while, and we have these hideous weapons and hideous powers that can turn that destructive path into true cataclysm.
But at the same time, an awakening is occurring and that awakening is being leveraged through the internet. It’s a consciousness awakening all around the world. And it’s that awakening of consciousness that the best hope for the future of humanity lies. - Graham Hancock
- Lol. The great awakening is that everyone is fucked and they've been suckered by cults led by the rich.
  Oh, wait, no, they haven't learned anything or awakened one bit.
  If only the pyramids could energy cube our alien salvation!

Sure we would also all be under water by 2005 or something.
Look, I do believe there's some damage to the environment made by human activity, however these guys lost all their credibility after all the shit that Al Gore said for years and years that fortunately never happened. Anyways, did you notice that the artic sea ice is peaking right now?...
- This can only be sarcasm.
  I've seen it often enough that people are too dumb to read articles they post to understand that the article disproves their point.
  But you are too dumb to even read the headline which already disproves your point.
- Did you notice that the currents in the southern oceans have reverse directions, bringing up more CO2 from the deep waters?
- Uhm... Have you read the whole headline?
  Arctic sea ice winter peak in 2025 is smallest in 47-year record

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