Banned for Voting Incorrectly?

It was .futurology.

Yup. I was originally in futurology. Guess you can’t call genocidal monsters a genocidal monster.

The true power of the fediverse is that little dictatorships should, in principle, balance out each other

I don't want to debate your diet, just want to add my voice of disagreement to it (i.e. downvote). There was nothing systematic about any of my votes. I came upon your posts without seeking them out, read them and thought they shouldn't be promoted, so I downvoted them to reduce their algorithmic visibility and voice my general opposition. I upvoted people who argued against your points, as I agreed with them and wanted to promote their viewpoints. In my opinion, that's quite a normal way to use this platform. Otherwise, do you also ban people who only upvote you without stating why they agree with your points?

I support you. Stay strong against the serial downvoters and don't let them bully you.

To each their own I guess

Downvoting posts in the All feed isn’t that bad, as it reduces their visibility if you believe it doesn’t interest you at all and probably most won’t interest many other people, so you let a chance to other posts to show up

Edit: typo

Your voice matters. Downvoting can be useful to prevent echo chambers (ex: downvoting lemmy.ml bs)

Now if the thing is just not fundamentally wrong like it’s just subjective and you don’t like it, yea it could harm, but the most likely is that less people will do it than people liking this type of content will upvote

Its only really problematic on smaller instances or if you do it continuously for every single post without a good valid reason

I don't even have downvotes on my instance but would that really be unusual? I often see a lot of people on a thread making the same wrong statements. I could see how that kind of thing would lead to a lot of downvotes in the same community and I was never very heavy handed with my downvoting.

Admins, not mods. Enormous distinction here. And I don't understand why that information can't be anonymized or attached to a user identifying number rather than username, but I will admit I'm not a develop not a sysadmin so I am a layman speaking outside my field here.

Beehaw actually does remove down voting, so that you are forced to actually find things you agree with and upvote them to curate.

And how would content be organised and curated?

"Stop calling me out on my bullshit or I'll.. I'll... ugh... I'll... ..."

any instance admin can see all upvotes/downvotes on any message from the web UI

No idea.

Pretty sure Davel is just a mod, so that'd be a "no", but again, "no idea" is my more reliable answer.

I did downvote several of his comments, but not like "spam downvoted", but from honest disagreement. Not my fault everything he writes is bullshit. So after I downvoted a few comments while replying to him, he replied "oh see, here on 'whatevercommunity' we ban people who downvote others for no reason', as if I had no reason.

They're just extremely silly and see through and you ought to question everyone on Lemmy about it. Because while opensource open platforms are great, they're also super easy to infiltrate.

Some are super easy to spot yeah, others less so. And seeing how they obviously wish to pretend they're something they're not, you can't assume you can "always" identify them.

That's kinda like saying "I can always tell a trans person", just because you don't notice a person being trans when they are passing.

Whenever I'm suspicious, I like to just ask people to confirm that Putler has an ICC warrant out for him for his war crimes. Their reaction to that is often very telling, but sometimes they'll go with something like "well, Putin, like all world leaders are inherently blablablabla", sort of faking out admitting to Putler's bullshit while similarly not criticising him personally, but also pushing ideology that is not opposed to Russian goals (ie basic whataboutism)..

Because there's only one account modding in those communities. Some Lemmy UIs also let you see which mod took action in the modlog.

It's been a common thing for awhile now, unfortunately. My .ee account was randomly banned from a bunch of comms because of being pro-ai or somesuch ridiculous thing.

well how are you supposed to treat people who roll coal?

Depends on the usage:

• Generating images of witches - Not very harsh.
• Perpetrating genocide - Very harsh.

People are assholes to people who disagree with them, no matter the topic.

You can find examples of people on each 'side' being assholes. Social media teaches people to be outraged, not to have any empathy.

A lot of peope consider it immoral.

I opted for the Ad Free Lemmy Prime $8.99.

thanks. useful to see how i got banned from multiple communities for one comment on a totally unrelated one. these people are insane.

Everyone beat me to it but thank you for explaining!

Thanks, I didn't know about that

I'm still trying to get my head around people giving votes that much attention. Maybe Lemmy has started getting refugees from other places that live and die by the arrows.

Someone go in there and do the same thing and see what happens. I would but you've probably picked up on my apathy by this point.

No, they don't, at least not the site wide admins.

This community is part of dbzer0, so if you were banned from the instance you wouldn't be able to post here either.

It looks like you pissed off on moderator of a bunch of comms and they banned you from all of theirs. Based off another commentor's link, this seems to have happened when those comms were being hit by waves of drive by downvoting so you may have been caught in the cross fire.

They shouldn't be. I've messaged the two mods and asked them to respond, because I don't know the details.

Yes, a few of the mods will ban anyone who downvotes AI or misinformation without making a comment or because you downvoted 'too many times' or some other bullshit. My 'systemic downvoting' and 'anti-ai harassment' community bans are for downvoting a few posts and not being sorry about it.

that should teach ya

I never said admin.

It's annoying that the amount the general public cares about schizophrenic people is often less than they care about changing the words they speak.

Oh no the transphobic genocide deniers are disappointed!

Here's a fun read: https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&modId=13008854

I would have used their server but lemmy.today doesn't let you filter by mod.

No, they want to control the narrative. This person set their comm to mod-post-only. It's their private blog. They're not making a safe place for others, they're making a safe place for themself.

I don’t think that’s what these mods were doing either.

How can you tell what you downvoted while randomly scrolling through the all feed or your subscriptions 3 months ago? I certainly couldn't remember.

And the communities you were banned from aren't necessarily the ones you downvoted in... That's just the realm of the admin or mod who banned you. But they could have based the decision on other behaviour or downvotes of yours.

The guy you're replying to needs to show some evidence, but do you have more than a paragraph of your thoughts to back up any of your claims?

fediseer which is basically "get approved by me or people I approved, or get fucked"

they basically have absolute power in this system

"Create more slop" is, in fact, a message I disagree with rather strongly

you're anti-AI, so YDI. fuck off to whatever liberal shithole you came from.

How did you reply to them? I thought beehaw defederated LW

Reading other comment of both the OP and mods from that communities. Have been stated that there were multiple downvotes over the course of several months.

My point is that doesn't seem that OP is interested in those communities anyway, not that they have interacted in any other way than downvoting. That's why I don't see why they are bothered for the ban. It's not like they took them away from a community they liked or were interested in following.

No, you're expected to block communities you aren't interested in. Curate your feed/all.

If I see something I don’t like (which is what the voting system is for), I should go to the Community it’s posted in and make sure to upvote things before I downvote? That’s the expected order of operations?

If the community is about something you dislike (which seems to be the case here), why would you not just block them from your feed instead of downvoting?

Nah, feel free to downvote. But to go into that same community and just downvote every single post is not cool. Not only that, some people go to that same community every day to keep downvoting every single post. Regardless of content. And some, in my personal case, go to other comms I run and do the same thing, even tho they are totally unrelated posts and unrelated subject manner.

I'm not saying you did that, but it's happening so much, that you probably just got caught up in it. If you really want to get back into those comms, email the mod.

I don't know why people browse like that in the first place. Of course you're going to see a lot of crap. Why not subscribe to communities with content you enjoy?

OPs story keeps changing so much.

"Oh I was unfairly banned"

"Oh I only downvoted 1 post"

"So what I only downvoted 4 posts"

You don't have to like anything, but consistent downvoting like this without any other kind of participation is indistinguishable from targeted downvote harassment, and isn't consistent with your claims of blocking.

I'm open to feedback.

I feel like sending a PM would have been a more decent and human thing to do.

I used to think that, too. But I sent a PM to someone about this very subject once because I didn't wanna ban them. He replied that PM'ing him was one of the most pathetic things he'd ever seen in his life and said I was an idiot. Maybe a one-off.

Ok, so another person was giving me issues and stalking me and downvoting everything I posted (I'm not well-loved on Lemmy haha), I PM'd them and said I didn't wanna ban them, but downvoting across all my comms was in bad taste. He told me to fuck off and that he could downvote anything he wanted to.

Lesson learned. Way too many people on Lemmy who don't like your attitude or views, are freakin crazy. As in stalk you crazy. One person, whom I won't name (and admin here knows their name!), would regularly write to admins with pages of "proof" about how terrible I am for Lemmy. And why the outrage? I voted third party in the election. LMAO

Now I have no problem banning problem children without notice. The crazy on Lemmy is a whole 'nother level of crazy. lol

What I don't get, is why the serial downvoting? If ya don't like a community, just block it. But some refuse to block and just go in and downvote every single post. It's happening more and more.

Not saying OP did that, but it's happening. And we can see it happening because as mods, we are able to see the names of downvoters. Other people in this thread are noticing the same thing, so it's not just me saying that.

The best move is to remove them and not engage.

These people wont' reflect and suddenly become good members of the community.

Across multiple communities, all the same subject, a singular downvote in each...

Obviously this is just my guess, but that's what I would probably think based on what's been going on.

Edit: Boy oh boy, you must be one of the anti-AI folks doing the brigading. You are super mad about this all over the place.

Not when you're using AI to silence criticism of AI. Laziness and ineptitude are a feature not a bug.

self important to think your profile deserved a single look. ;) dont worry about it mate. these are jsut made of 1s and 0s.

I'd say that it was the dozen communities that made it seem like it was a brigade, as well as an attempt to avoid getting caught by only having one each across a dozen communities.

Edit: a whole word was missing.

Eh. I see arguments both ways. Public votes makes it easier to catch bad faith (downvote bots) and manipulation. However, it allows abuse from touchy or unscrupulous mods. TBH, I'm personally more concerned with the bots. Everything is federated to one can pickup and move elsewhere of they're on the receiving end of such a mod.

So brigading small communities can be easier?

fediverse needs no voting