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Terrorism is when you say America bad

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asside, checked ADL, they treat her as if she's Hitler incarnate for talking truth, then checked Elon Musk's page on the ADL, practically nothing, no mention of his Hitler salutes, or that his AI is promoting Hitler and attacking jews.
ADL is a fucking joke
- ADL put spez on their tech advisory board apparently back in 2017. So I guess they've been a fucking joke for a while.

Guy on the left is an (ostensible) ally of Israel
Woman on the right is not.
Seems pretty straightforward to me.
- He cut off Iran's supply to Hasbulla in Lebanon, cut off Iran's reach to Israel, gave Israel extra strategic lands, let Israel destroy all previous regime's Russian/Iranian military equipments and now he has announced normalizing relations with Israel.
  Then US immediately rewarded him with investments and aid contracts from the other dictatorship gulf countries, who are good dictatorships btw they say USA Good. They invest in the US, ONLY allowed to buy US defense contracts, tie their currencies to the US dollar ONLY and basically keep all their country resources under the exploitation of the US for the mere beautiful American/Western-values sponsored cost of emprovishing and beheading their citziens every fucking month for talking on twitterz and depriving them of human rights :D
  
  bin laden's ghost is all, 'it was just that easy?'
  
  Fuck yeah

Couldn't they frame this without the angry bearded Arab vs smiling white woman?
- That's just resting beard face.
  
  That is a good beard though
  
  The other person also said they didn't look angry to them so that could be just me. His eyebrows are angled downward and I think that's what makes him look upset to me.
- He doesn't really look angry to me. And he does have a beard and is Arab so those seem like things that will be in every picture of him.
  I'm sure hos photo is from the wanted list and hers is from her bio somewhere, but the juxtaposition just serves to magnify the point.
  
  This is not an image that just comes up if you search him. Oop chose to have this image instead of him in a suit with a kept beard.
  Edit: also amplify which fucking point, that people with messy facial hair in headscarves are terrorists?
  Edit 2: look at my bias with the messy part, sub in 'longer'
- Ex-wife hated my beard, said it made me look always angry. Still don't think the beard was the issue.
- When I've let my mustache grow in I've been told I exuded porn star energy.
  I shaved it off immediately. I'm NOT my father!
- No because the left image is what people have been sold as the stereotype of a terrorist.
  
  I mean, that guy is a real literal terrorist. Who was he doing terrorism on behalf of? Please don't probe that too deeply.
  Just, you know... keep this in mind.
  
  But the message is that we should be stereotyping the guy on the left because he's more dangerous, and not the lady on the right.
  And that's wrong.
  
  If you were aware this was stereotyping why did you post it here?

- This one pisses me off.
  
  I fixed it.

Sanctioning albanese is an abomination.
it's not true to say al jolani was the founder of al qaeda. He was a part of jabhat al nusra which was affiliated with al qaeda. They split over disagreements and actually wiped al qaeda from Syria.
Whether he's actually a terrorist is hard to say because the US designates any group it doesnt like as that.
- They split over disagreements
  "Listen, are we proxies of the CIA or not, guys?"
  Whether he’s actually a terrorist is hard to say
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_al-Sharaa#War_crimes_of_al-Nusra_(2012%E2%80%932016)
  Under al-Shara'a's leadership, al-Nusra Front and Jabhat Fateh al-Sham perpetrated a series of war crimes, suicide bombings, forced conversions, ethnic cleansing and sectarian massacres against Syria's Christian, Alawite, Shia and Druze minorities. These included the January 2012 al-Midan bombing, which killed 26 people and wounded 63.
  🤔
  
  I'm sure he was backed by the CIA, people forget Hamas was backed by Israel. Doesn't mean Hamas is an Israel asset. The CIA like many others will play the dirty game of backing groups that they dont like if there is some strategy to it. Just like they did with the Taliban originally to fight the Soviets.
- Also, sometimes "terrorists" give up their armed struggle. That's something that should be encouraged. If you go with the idea of "once a terrorist, always a terrorist" then there's no incentive for so-called "terrorists" to ever change their ways.
  And, from a more practical matter, he's in charge of Syria now. If the international community wants Syrians to be free, happy and healthy they have to try to work with him. If they cut off all aid to Syria and refuse to work with him, then the only people who will work with him are all the various bad actors of the region. They shouldn't necessarily fully trust him, but they should give him an opportunity to show he has the best interests of the Syrian people at heart.
  
  These mental gymnastics that selectively apply to very few specific instances to prop up US interest is always wild.
  The Nazis gave up their arms too, why did the Nuremberg trials happened then? Why even have international laws against war crimes when you can just say what the west wants to hear and get off scot free. This is exactly the plan with Netanyahu too.
  You people are despicable ghouls that only concern troll with the moral high ground when it fits your narrative.

Terrorism and antisemitism only mean thinking Palestinians are human. The more you think that Palestinians are expendable, the more you can be accepted by the US government.

Add to that ICC chief prosecutor Karim Khan who has already been sanctioned by the US back in February for the crime of issuing an arrest warrant for a war criminal.

ISIS are the good guys now.
We have always been at war with the UN Special Rapporteur.
War is Peace.
- Rojava is fighting ISIS, and to support them, NATO are fighting Rojava, because God forbid there's a feminist state in the middle east.
- Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum - The peaceful Roman Empire.

And why are the pictures relevant? Because Middle Eastern men are terrorists by default, and attractive women are pure of heart?
- Jolani is literally an Al Qaeda commander who is now the dictator, sorry, President of Syria. His thugs are massacring Christians, Druze and Alawites in the same way as his ISIS brothers were doing.
  But he is now the darling of the West because he isn't pro Palestinian and kisses Trumps ring.
  
  What your saying isn't true.
  He was an al qaeda affiliate, he later wiped al qaeda from Syria with his group.
  There hasn't been a massacre of Christians as you espouse. There was some aggressive incidents caused by a few but Jolani has been deploying his army to safe guard Christians and their church's.
  There was 1 incident of an alawaite massacre after which he sent troops to calm things down. And promised to take those to account, we will see if he fulfills this promise.
  Other fights with alwaites are with old regime hold outs.
  No, he has not been going around massacring people ISIS as you espouse.
  Remains to be seen if he will be pro palestine or not. Israel seems to have been on edge since he's taken power.
  The truth is, it is too early to tell what type Jolani will be.
  
  Excuse my ignorance but last I heard they were explicitly not massacarring anyone or taking a strong stance in any way as to not get deposed before they were internally stable? And is the dictator part a jab at coming to power with a coup or is there something else?
- It is funny how your comment reveals more about your own prejudices than anybody else.
  
  try the meme without the photos- just bullet points and see how far it gets.
  
  This is literally the 'colorblind' argument

Wow, let's top discrimination by being racist.
Both can be good or bad independent of their outward appearance.
- He's projecting the same orientalism back at the empire to illustrate a point. It was never about wearing a beard. Or even about joining ISIS.
  It was about not being a politically advantageous ally to the US empire.
  
  There are better ways to make a point. The implication is that he is worse because is Muslim.
- Yeah the way that it's positioned, as though through image alone she is self evidently less dangerous than he is, is definitely islamophobic & racist.
- This meme is what the average American discourse is like
  It's likesomething that could be satirized in Always Sunny In Philadelphia
- I don't know: it's inherently ambiguous. How do you know which is the man & which is the woman? Maybe they're the same person.
  Are you possibly misgendering & being racist? 🤨
  (I thought the message had more to do with the words than the images.)

I wish the left could have gotten its shit together last November.
- The Democratic party's leadership makes that much more difficult than it needs to be and they will keep blowing winnable elections for the rest of us until they are removed from power
  
  The Democratic party isn't the left.
  
  Well you got a year until midterms. I'll ask again. Any plans?
  . . . ?
- What does the left have to do with it?
  
  Instead of taking responsibility for how fucking dumb the average American is, they’ll rather blame one side for everything.
  “The left didn’t get their shit together, I’m voting for the right!”
  Even if they know the extreme right leaning fascist Republican Party will fuck over everyone who isn’t white, straight, male and rich. How insanely evil and/or dumb do you have to be to think like that?
- 77 million fucktards still voted against their best interests
  
  And 75 million voted to stop it. If only 2.5 million more could have voted to stop it.
  But that gEnOsiDe JoE thing really got 'em good.
- Sadly, they were under siege from the "Vote Blue No Matter Who" brigades and could not bring their full force to bare.
  
  Hahaha
- point me to a candidate that didn't promote genocide?
  
  Don't know why centrists have to gloat that they made sure we couldn't vote for an anti-genocide candidate.
  
  De La Cruz? And the Democrats sued and won to keep her off the ballots in swing states.
- They did and they didn't vote for genocide.
  
  Didn't they?
  lol
  
  And just look what that protest vote did for those fucking morons. Now the USA is full mask-off fascist. Good job.

Fuck america & tRump in particular

Joe Wilkinson and Chelsea Peretti.
- Can we please put Joe Wilkinson back on the terror list.
- I was thinking Adam Scott
  
  Wtf

that kind of post always seem to me like "let me cherry-pick my context to complain about something without providing the real full context"

I mean ISIS and Al Qaeda didn’t attack Israel once. I wonder who funds them. :-)

Time for 9/11 on trump tower
- prefer to hit mara lago

Al-Sharaa is actually kind of an ok guy. I don’t want to say that with complete conviction because unfortunately things haven’t gone well for Syrians for a long time and power vacuums can be dangerous when filled. That said, he seems to actually want to help his people, seems open to fair agreements and some more social responsible rules. I’m not going to speak on the woman as I have no idea, but peace with the Middle East and the US is a positive thing. Understanding them and being in a mutually respecting relationship will only serve us both well. I just hope that it ends up also being truly positive for all Syrians. They deserve peace and freedom after decades of oppression.
- Sharaa is an Israeli backed agent. He is already selling out Syria to Israel. The only time he fights people is when they oppose Israel. For more info see https://youtu.be/vweHtxqnh-Y?t=153 and keep in mind that Al Nusra is Jolani's group.
  
  This isn't good evidence. Netanyahu and israel backed and sent aid and support to Hamas for a long time because they want that opposition to use it as an excuse to do whatever.
  
  Ah, that's why Israel bombed the fuck out of his military in day one! Because he's their agent! And Assad wasn't, because they never bombed him. Riiight!
- His thugs have been massacring Christians and other minorities. Syria is a multi confessional state and the Sunni islamofascists now in charge are putting an end to that.
  
  There's been some incidents which are outliers. If they wanted to massacre it would be a lot worse. Al jolani has mentioned they will bring those to justice, we will see if he fulfills this promise.

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